Nude Modeling (yes, again)

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Exactly. So why should OP be held accountable? You , I , OP have no control. It’s not porn, it’s a drawing. Anyone with photoshop can make porn from any digital picture. Does this mean we should stop using digital cameras because a photo might end
up being used for something sinful?
And I completely disagree that it’s immoral and sinful to pose naked in a art class.
This thread is not so much of someone really wanting to pose nude for an art class as someone trying to cause a titillating argument on a Catholic forum. Read her other posts and one can see that this is more about being on the edge of Catholic Christian morality and following that and pushing the boundaries to the edge. The problem with always being on the edge is that you will fall over it.
 
Exactly. So why should OP be held accountable? You , I , OP have no control. It’s not porn, it’s a drawing. Anyone with photoshop can make porn from any digital picture. Does this mean we should stop using digital cameras because a photo might end
up being used for something sinful?
And I completely disagree that it’s immoral and sinful to pose naked in a art class.
Why? Well, we do have that pesky bible thing which tells us we will be.
 
Why? Well, we do have that pesky bible thing which tells us we will be.
But where’s the line?

There are photos of me online, head shots for LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook. Someone could take my head and 'shop it onto a porn pic. I’m not accountable for that.

If I appear in a pornographic movie, then yes. I would be accountable for that.

If you ask an artist, he or she will tell you that learning about the human form is critical to their work. Just as an illustrator who draws for medical textbooks will tell you. Michelangelo sculpted David. Is that porn? What about the artists who create scenes of the Crucifixion? Jesus is shown very nearly naked. The artists had to learn somehow, from someone, how to create the human form. I’d wager my mortgage payment that nearly all of them studied nude figures.
 
This thread is not so much of someone really wanting to pose nude for an art class as someone trying to cause a titillating argument on a Catholic forum.
Ha ha, well, I won’t say you’re entirely wrong. Since you put it that way, I must admit, there’s probably a lot of truth there. I didn’t intend to use any of you, and I do have some little interest in modeling, including nude possibly (I never claimed anything more) but I’m afraid I do enjoy titillating conversations. Please believe me though when I say I did not consciously begin this thread with the idea of toying with you people, and have found this conversation genuinely fascinating and challenging.
Read her other posts and one can see that this is more about being on the edge of Catholic Christian morality and following that and pushing the boundaries to the edge. The problem with always being on the edge is that you will fall over it.
Eloquent, but I’d appreciate if you’d give me an example. I try my best to be a chaste and Godly teenager, though I often fall. And so I’m really puzzled why you’d think that of me. It is true in that I think many things are acceptable that some others don’t, but one could say that of many. We all have different opinions.
 
Ha ha, well, I won’t say you’re entirely wrong. Since you put it that way, I must admit, there’s probably a lot of truth there. I didn’t intend to use any of you, and I do have some little interest in modeling, including nude possibly (I never claimed anything more) but I’m afraid I do enjoy titillating conversations. Please believe me though when I say I did not consciously begin this thread with the idea of toying with you people, and have found this conversation genuinely fascinating and challenging.

Eloquent, but I’d appreciate if you’d give me an example. I try my best to be a chaste and Godly teenager, though I often fall. And so I’m really puzzled why you’d think that of me. It is true in that I think many things are acceptable that some others don’t, but one could say that of many. We all have different opinions.
I think your admission is enough that this was a scam. If you are trying to be a Godly teenage and chaste, it is curious as to why you have posted on threads dealing with sex and marriage. Not sure what to say to you but your flirtation with all of the above speaks mountains about what is in your heart and where your interests are which isn’t trying to be a Godly chaste teenage. Likewise starting a thread that is basically a lie isn’t in the Godly category too. Your posts gave me the clue that this whole thing wasn’t real.
 
“Admission”? I was trying to be honest. I could’ve just ignored you if I chose.
I’ve posted on a few topics dealing with sex and one or two with marriage (not more than one or two.) However, I fail to see why that makes me look like such a terrible person. Was I supposed to assume such topics are hands-off to certain people? Is it unnatural for a teen to be interested in such things?

I did not say the thread was basically a lie. I admitted that I do enjoy titillating conversations Don’t a lot of people?. I never said I have no interest in nude modeling. I do. And I think I may just possibly do it someday. Why do you doubt that? I had an honest question, you’ve all given me honest answers.
 
There is nothing wrong with nudity, since that is how God made us, the problem would be if you are doing it for a good work like the Sixtine Chappel or a pornographic one, and your own toughts about it, it can be a respectable art stuff, but the model does it with the intention of doing porn, so then the model is sinning.
 
“Admission”? I was trying to be honest. I could’ve just ignored you if I chose.
I’ve posted on a few topics dealing with sex and one or two with marriage (not more than one or two.) However, I fail to see why that makes me look like such a terrible person. Was I supposed to assume such topics are hands-off to certain people? Is it unnatural for a teen to be interested in such things?

I did not say the thread was basically a lie. I admitted that I do enjoy titillating conversations Don’t a lot of people?. I never said I have no interest in nude modeling. I do. And I think I may just possibly do it someday. Why do you doubt that? I had an honest question, you’ve all given me honest answers.
enjoying titillating conversations is not someone trying to be a chaste teenager. No one said you are bad but you are not being honest with yourself and trying to start titillating threads likewise is not suggesting someone with a pure heart or motives or even trying to achieve that goal. I suggest you stop looking at nude art and read the Bible which says “flee youthful lust”. Likewise Jesus said that “who so ever looks at a women with lust commits adultery in their heart”. and finally “whatever is true, lovely etc, think on these things”. Spend some time looking up these verses instead of getting kicks out of titillating conversations about sex.
 
True beauty comes from within. Pretty and beautiful are not the same. When I see a pretty naked girl I don’t see beauty. It just makes me sad.
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I wonder whether the posters on this thread supporting this would still support it if the nude model in question or the poster Pound Coolish was their daughter, mother or better yet … their wife. I wonder whether the same things would be said.

The great exploitation and degradation of women in the west continues, trying to mask porn under ‘art’ but the last place I expected to find it was here from people on CAF. 😦

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
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I wonder whether the posters on this thread supporting this would still support it if the nude model in question or the poster Pound Coolish was their daughter, mother or better yet … their wife. I wonder whether the same things would be said.

The great exploitation and degradation of women in the west continues, trying to mask porn under ‘art’ but the last place I expected to find it was here from people on CAF. 😦

Thank you for reading
Josh
nude≠porn
 
We all know nudity can be art. And not just women either, men too. What exactly is it you are saying? Do you seriously believe all nudity is wrong? Are you offended by classical nudism, such as Michelangelo’s David? or the hundreds of nudes the art world treasures? No? Well then: how come things have to from the long past in order to approved? Things are wrong if they are done now, but if time passes, suddenly they’re fine? Frankly, it seems that people say that in every single day and age.
 
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I wonder whether the posters on this thread supporting this would still support it if the nude model in question or the poster Pound Coolish was their daughter, mother or better yet … their wife. I wonder whether the same things would be said.

The great exploitation and degradation of women in the west continues, trying to mask porn under ‘art’ but the last place I expected to find it was here from people on CAF. 😦

Thank you for reading
Josh
As a matter of fact, I saw someone selling semi-nude photos from the 1950s, and in each description, he wrote: “Art not Porn.” That’s how the continuing degradation of women spreads over the decades. First, it’s a little graphic, then a little more, followed by a little more, until we hit the 1970s and porn (Adult) bookstores open everywhere. Then someone tries to convince us that those “Old” photos are art. In used bookstores, today, those “art/model” magazines from the 1950s are stacked by the more graphic stuff.

After over 40 years of exposure to more and more sexual situations in movies and on TV, which has gotten worse every year, and on the internet, yes, some people think it’s somehow OK. We must remind them of the truth. Porn addiction affects Catholics as well as non-Catholics. Nude modeling has no legitimate outlet in the world today, with the possible exception of sacred art. No, the human body is not sinful or something to be ashamed of, but it hurts me to see attractive celebrities posing here and there without shame. Pray for them. The word “art” is not a bulletproof shield and is not a legitimate reason in almost all cases.

Peace,
Ed
 
Who’s denying that there’s tons of pointless and enticing nudity tossed around as art? Of course there is.
 
I dont know about anyone else, but I think its pretty hypocritical that our modern society deems it ok to kill millions of unborn babies, but OH NO, we cant have ANY nudity on TV! LOL.

There is nothing wrong with a nude human body, the only reason our modern society would like people to think it is dirty or wrong, is because they are trying to bash Gods creative abilities, they are calling his creations dirty and immoral.

I cant remember the deatils, but I have seen a school, (or museum) that actually censored the statue of David, I do remember being offended when I heard it and thought someone should be held accountable for this action.

Another instance, a popular sculptor was commissioned to create a statue of a beautiful female, it took him months to find the right girl, turns out she was 15 yrs old, but at the time ( I believe this was in early 1900s), no one had a problem with it and his sculpture was very beautiful, it showed her topless with a toga type of cloth draped around her waist and legs, however in todays world, that sculptor would be called a pedophile and many would probably demand he be arrested for such a thing!!!

Just goes to show how far down the pit our modern day society has fallen.
 
I dont know about anyone else, but I think its pretty hypocritical that our modern society deems it ok to kill millions of unborn babies, but OH NO, we cant have ANY nudity on TV! LOL.

There is nothing wrong with a nude human body, the only reason our modern society would like people to think it is dirty or wrong, is because they are trying to bash Gods creative abilities, they are calling his creations dirty and immoral.

I cant remember the deatils, but I have seen a school, (or museum) that actually censored the statue of David, I do remember being offended when I heard it and thought someone should be held accountable for this action.

Another instance, a popular sculptor was commissioned to create a statue of a beautiful female, it took him months to find the right girl, turns out she was 15 yrs old, but at the time ( I believe this was in early 1900s), no one had a problem with it and his sculpture was very beautiful, it showed her topless with a toga type of cloth draped around her waist and legs, however in todays world, that sculptor would be called a pedophile and many would probably demand he be arrested for such a thing!!!

Just goes to show how far down the pit our modern day society has fallen.
It is the conservatives who got any nudity on the television banned and liberals who pushed for legalization of abortion. Not hypocritical in reality.
Sounds like you think Gods creation is dirty and wrong, and should be not be viewed by anyone?
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I just used the not equals sign, i.e. they are not the same.
 
I can’t believe what I am reading here.

If someone painted a naked picture of our blessed mother Mary, or made a naked scupltur of her, would any of you be offended? would any of you think it disrespectful/degrading? or would you all be praising it as art?

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
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