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jwinch2
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:yawn:
To be accurate, the headline should read “Nun to commit apostasy”.
To be accurate, the headline should read “Nun to commit apostasy”.
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Slaney
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So she says she isn’t leaving the Catholic Church, well I’m afraid she already has, she’s a protester…sad for her, she needs our prayers…
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edwest2
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That is incorrect, and not consistent with Church teaching.
vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_22051994_ordinatio-sacerdotalis_en.html
Peace,
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mab23
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true!Well, she ain’t no nun, and she won’t be no priest either.
if she was a nun she knows why women cannot be priests just as men cannot be nuns - but now she will be neither.
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tabycat
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According to the link she is a former nun.Could’nt she use her “call” to stay a nun?
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jwinch2
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There have been about 100 threads on this topic. You really should read some of them when you have a chance.
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LegoGE1947
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This sure seems to be a “hot-button” issue! But then Jesus HIMSELF was a hot-button issue and still is!
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jwinch2
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It seems like every time this comes up, there are one or two who think it is actually going to happen some day or there are Catholics who for whatever reason, reject God’s will on this issue. They get overwhelmed by Catholic teaching to include infallible statements from the Church and then it dies out for a while only to surface again a few months down the road.
As for the rest, you are absolutely correct. Christianity is the original counter-cultural movement starting with our Blessed Lord and his prophet, St. John the Baptist. More and more, it seems that we are heading back in that direction. In today’s society, there is little more contrary to the prevailing culture than to be authentically Christian, to hold to traditional values, and not shrink from the true teachings of the Church. I don’t see this getting any better in the coming years.
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Ashlyn1634
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I hope that Ms. Diane has good luck in her case, and I wish her the absolute best in her calling by God. I hope that her excommunication won’t keep her down in her Faith and that she continues to grow and help others. Good luck to Ms. Diane!
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CopticChristian
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My,
If the Church as Timothy says, is the Pillar and foundation of Truth, and as Ephesians says through which the manifold wisdom of God is known, and if the Church is the Body of Christ,the same today as yesterday and women are not to be priests…then the Holy Spirit has spoken…God has no limits…but He does place boundaries on the acts of his children…and He does not restrain the prodigal…He welcomes them back…
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CopticChristian
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Maria,
I could not discover the Bishop that started this whole thing…he is the culprit…
and an aside…I noticed that the Association of Women Priests says that the Church should reform…and they have a Facebook page…just for fun I wondered how things would have been different…if
CAF, Facebook, Twitter, and the like were up and running and we saw…
Martin Luther posts writings on Church wall…see Facebook page…respond to twitter…says we should reform…
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CaptFun
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Quite true. And she is a saint. Which our living priests - even up to the Pope are still just trying to be. God Bless those priests though.
People who have “women priests” on their minds all the time have fallen to a habit of elevating the political over the spiritual. Even where it does not belong.
Priests can’t be nuns either. How can they DEAL with it?
MAYBE the son of God had his reasons … for that matter … his reasons in making us all male or female (though it doesn’t match up with the radical equality standards of the ever so more enlightened “intellectuals” who gave us eternal class warfare in place of love of neighbor as their key value).
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CaptFun
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“Can we call you ‘Father’ Sister?”I hear you , but:
The priesthood is NOT a worldly office.
Saints don’t “outrank” others who have died in Christ, < bad terminology (on MY part I mean - even though I examine this interesting proposition of yours further down.
I was addressing the folks who viewed the issue as a “glass ceiling” thing not sensible folks like you.If they saw non-priest as “sub-priest” then “saint” would be walking on top of that ceiling. St. Catherine of Siena was a doctor of the church - and a saint now.
Never a priest though. But most priests never get named “doctor of the church” (or saint for that matter, even many who actually ARE).
This story, we may agree, smacks of sensationalism and worldliness, flouting of Church authority, and class warfare. Good for media ratings. Not so good for the Church.
Anyone disagree? Would the Eucharist be MORE Jesus if a woman priest presided?
No. And let’s not even wonder why it’s Jesus and not Jessica ( the next logical step in a gender based attack on the Church).
There ARE apparently those who are called GREAT in the kingdom and some who are called LEAST in the kingdom (apparently) so in some sense maybe their are ranks in heaven (though God’s love for us all is equally boundless).
neither do they have more authority over the Church as the Pope or the parish as the priest. < Interesting point. Saints do have some supernatural powers that the average priest doesn’t (yet - in most cases), but an interesting point. < The ‘outranking’ idea gets examined again - even though that word might mollify some of the more fair minded “Church is sexist” crowd with something to think about.
But then again, I hear you! < Good (name removed by moderator)ut - we may have upgraded the level of discussion on this thread from the silliness it begins with. :dancing::dancing:
Later … " … your Eminence?"
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CaptFun
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I recognize that voice! It’s the “Dead End Kid” who was also an altar boy!"Well, she ain’t no nun, and she won’t be no priest either.
"Hiya Fodder! Uh, me and the boys here, we got these two turkeys here from … well somebody GAVE 'em to us … so … well would you and Fodder Fitzgibbon LIKE one of 'em?
(Hits another gang member about to speak) “Sha-dup! Sha-dup!”
(Smiling face again) “WE hear his mudder’s comin’ soon!”
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzCM4-wPXt8UUFgR7nRKuGHo-ZeUoOiSFBDSsslVaakucLOg73rg
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Catholic80
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I think it’s a really good indication of how Satan can lead people astray with “good” intentions. Obedience, obedience, obedience! If one cannot obey, then that is a clear sign of the devil’s handiwork. The saints often were asked to do things they did not like and what they thought contrary to where God was calling them… But they are saints because they stood the test of obedience. If it is God’s will, it will get done no matter what and without our forcing it to happen.
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TheRealJuliane
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This sickens me. She will not be ordained as a priest! That statement is just a lie!
May God have mercy upon her.
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jwinch2
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We have that already. Its called the Anglican/Episcopal church.
Hebrews 5:4:
It is the Church who is the authentic interpreter of whether a person has a vocation to the priesthood, not the individual. It is not something which can be demanded like a petulant child.
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CopticChristian
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Daddy,
If you are thinking of becoming Catholic, as you said in a prior post, Schism is not a good thing. There is no branches that occur from Schism in particular from 1000 years ago. Prior to that the Schism of the East and West preserved the Eucharist, 7 sacraments, and the priesthood.
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thesmiter1
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The Church cannot make dogma anything contrary to Tradition or Scripture. Sacred Tradition regarding male ordination goes back to Christ’s ordination of the Apostles, and their ordination of males only. There is literally nothing we can do about this. This is the way God wanted it. Further, it serves to show that the sexes are NOT the same; we both have different vocations and callings. Lastly, if these women feel the call to become religious, it should surely be enough to be a nun. Many MANY women saints were nuns, and they were OBEDIENT to the Church. Disobedience to the Magisterium and Tradition is NOT what God wants of us.
For instance, I would like to be married and then become a priest, but the Magisterium has prohibited married clergy within the Roman Rite. Their reasons are excellent, they are the Authority that God gave us, and I will be obedient to them and choose one or the other, because I love God and the Church. Those who rebel against it are NOT showing genuine love, rather selfish desire.
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TimothyH
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Many of the local media outlets here in Atlanta tried to get Archbishop Gregory to respond. His Excellency only released a short press release stating “She will be automatically excommunicated.” The clergy down here have been tight lipped about it. The Archbishop’s statement seems to be all the Church really needs to say.
Some local media outlets here in Atlanta are calling her “Georgia’s first woman priest.” Catholics are hitting back pretty hard on their message boards.
-Tim-
Some local media outlets here in Atlanta are calling her “Georgia’s first woman priest.” Catholics are hitting back pretty hard on their message boards.
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