Nuns get involved in the battle for the White House

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tarboy said:
These nuns make me sick. Sister Simone should be chiding the faithful to tithe rather than pretending the Govt programs solve poverty or bring social justice.

Her position is forced tithing through taxes is the right answer. She is a socialist.
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And so was Jesus.
 
seekerz said:
You are conflating immorality of abortion with support for legal penalties against it. I assert that the two are separable in a setting where abortion is not illegal by law. I see no violation of any Church teaching in her stance. And BTW, who is Ms Campbell? She’s Sr Campbell.
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Nonsense … I stated it plainly - Without conflating anything.

I mean, should it be illegal to perform abortions? my bold

CAMPBELL: That’s beyond my pay grade. I don’t know.

EVANGELIUM VITAE

** 73. Abortion and euthanasia are thus crimes which no human law can claim to legitimize.**

It’s NOT LEGAL by her stated FAITH …The Catholic Church - NEVER Legal - EVER!

No Sir, to me, she is polity addressed as Ms Campbell
 
Oh that’s right Sister said it was beyond her pay grade. So basically the whole fuss against her along with her opposing the Ryan budget of course, is she was not a justice on the SCOTUS in 1973 when the issue was addressed and the legal right of woman to an abortion was determined. So she said it is beyond her pay grade and to whether doctors performing these legal abortions should be penalized?
 
CMatt25 said:
Oh that’s right Sister said it was beyond her pay grade. So basically the whole fuss against her along with her opposing the Ryan budget of course, is she was not a justice on the SCOTUS in 1973 when the issue was addressed and the legal right of woman to an abortion was determined. So she said it is beyond her pay grade and to whether doctors performing these legal abortions should be penalized?
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What are you having trouble with?

She states her Faith as Catholic.

EVANGELIUM VITAE
  1. Abortion and euthanasia are thus crimes which ** no human law **can claim to legitimize.
That is from the VERY HEAD of The Catholic Church. vatican.va/holy_father/jo…-vitae_en.html ,----NOTICE THE URL ADDY? It’s from the Vatican.

As a Catholic - It’s not her decision! - It’s not up for discussion - It’s isn’t dependent on where she lives.

The Question was: “I mean, should it be illegal to perform abortions?”
 
fastenatingguy said:
For my first six grades, all the nuns wore a full habit. Then in 7th grade they modified it a little, they kept the head covering, but started to wear skirts below the knee. Who knew they had legs? 😉 The following year a few of the younger nuns just started wearing conservative clothes, but no head covering. Who knew they had hair? 🤷
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When I was little, I thought my sisters’ heads sat on their shoulders. Who knew they had necks? 😃
 
kimmielittle said:
What are you having trouble with?

She states her Faith as Catholic.

EVANGELIUM VITAE
  1. Abortion and euthanasia are thus crimes which ** no human law **can claim to legitimize.
That is from the VERY HEAD of The Catholic Church. vatican.va/holy_father/jo…-vitae_en.html ,----NOTICE THE URL ADDY? It’s from the Vatican.

As a Catholic - It’s not her decision! - It’s not up for discussion - It’s isn’t dependent on where she lives.

The Question was: “I mean, should it be illegal to perform abortions?”
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The question was in two parts and you are right, it was clearly questioning her on whether doctors should be legally penalized for performing abortions, rephrased as “should abortion be illegal”. Again, in a country where it is legal for a woman to seek an abortion, what would be the logic behind prosecuting doctors for doing it?
 
CMatt25 said:
Thank you fastenatingguy. And please know I truly try as well to be charitable. I’m human like you and the rest of us and I know it can be tough sometimes. I sincerely pray for the most part I am though. I’m just striving to humbly walk in the Christian faith I have. And the Apostle James spoke about praying for one another. So I very much appreciate and thank you for praying for me. A prayer life and praying for others is important to my faith as well. I’m going to reciprocate if that’s alright with you and I pray God continues to bless you along your faith journey and His peace be with you always.
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Thank you 🙂
 
kimmielittle said:
Sorry to burst yours:)

cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/independent-payment-advisory-board-ppacas-anticonstitutional-authoritarian-superlegislature

It’s an Authoritarian body with no recourse for/ to the public it is supposed to serve.
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And that makes it a death panel?

What might prevent a citizen who has been denied a particular service from paying for it out of their own resources or seeking charitable care? Those are the two most common alternatives I routinely run across on this forum as alternatives to government-run health care…:confused: Does the IPAB prevent people from helping each other privately?
 
seekerz said:
The question was in two parts and you are right, it was clearly questioning her on whether doctors should be legally penalized for performing abortions, rephrase as “should abortion be illegal”. Again, in a country where it is legal for a woman to seek an abortion, what would be the logic behind prosecuting doctors for doing it?
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😃

Ms Campbell is more than happy to “wear” the title of “Nun”.
She is more than happy to “use” the title of “Nun” to add credence to her social agendas.
She is NOT happy to confirm what The Holy Father - Catholic Church has stated.

Does the “habit” fit when ONLY when needed?

Again; what are you having trouble with.

AS a Catholic, it is NOT legal - no matter what your country has done in an attempt to legitimizes it.

She KNOWS this:

She does NOT publicly acknowledge this Catholic Teaching.
 
seekerz said:
That is your opinion. In mine, the HHS has the potential both to help and to hurt and it is up to the people to whom it applies to make the choice for life or against it.

Easing the burden of health insurance (a major issue for many parents and caregivers) can only ease the concerns over ability to provide for a child - a common contributor to decisions for abortion - particularly in families who already have sick kids or a history of hereditary illness. On the other hand, making it easier to pay for an abortion could have the opposite effect, making the choice against life an easier one. Ultimately, people motivated by financial concerns will generally find a way to pay for an abortion regardless. So from my viewpoint the potential benefits outweigh the risk.

You may not agree, but I’m not clear on which point you think I’ve missed.
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The only good thing about the HHS mandate is that it has made a few Catholics stop and think about what it is we’re doing vs. what it is we should be doing! It may straighten some really old crazy arrangements yet. Other than that, everything about it is evil.
 
seekerz said:
And that makes it a death panel?

What might prevent a citizen who has been denied a particular service from paying for it out of their own resources or seeking charitable care? Those are the two most common alternatives I routinely run across on this forum as alternatives to government-run health care…:confused: Does the IPAB prevent people from helping each other privately?
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😃

If you have no (name removed by moderator)ut, recourse, or access to IPAB - How do you know? 🤷:confused:

Donja think we have a right to Know.
Donja think you should know before trying to defend Obamacare?
There is much undefined in Obamacare - too much to try to defend.

Does it even sound Constitutional to you?
 
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