Nuns Urge Catholic Voters to Challenge Church

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Ridgerunner said:
“Relgious” who do not accept the teaching of the Church will not accept discipline by the Church either… But the discipline of lifespan will ultimately accomplish what the discipline of the Church cannot. The members of these orders are getting old…
That’s where all of this is headed.
These groups won’t change their names or pretensions when all the nuns are gone.
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I hate that this is so true, I left two different diocesan positions because of a lack of even minmal oversight by heirarchy. The only place I ever saw them was at the buffet table, - never truly leading, never even trying to hear or undestand what was going on. But what was going on was shennanigans like these “nuns” are pulling. These are not Sisters as we knew them. These are feminists and lesbians who have slithered their way into positions of power where they use this as leverage to make their own home brew. They bring shame upon themselves for saying such vile things- truly ugly in the name of God. But one step further, they bring shame upon our Church that we are in such a state as to tolerate them, to let them continue to poison minds with their teachings, and to maintain indifference towards the care of the flock while the wolves have their way. Waiting until they die is a truly sickening, gut wrenching answer to this.
 
News Flash:
If these nuns are opposed to the Faith and Morals teachings of the Catholic Church, they are Heretics and, as such,
are automatically excommunicated. It’s too bad officials of the church don’t explicitly declare their excommunication.
 
Yes, it is too bad, and if, in the name of God I were permitted to do so, I would publically divorce them from every vow, title and all physical evidence of their former Catholic identity. Then I would hand them a pitchfork and a cauldron and tell them to have at it with the proper tools!
 
Jaypeeto3 said:
News Flash:
If these nuns are opposed to the Faith and Morals teachings of the Catholic Church, they are Heretics and, as such,
are automatically excommunicated. It’s too bad officials of the church don’t explicitly declare their excommunication.
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:amen:
 
Damascus said:
Dont forget- the gates of hell will not prevail.
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Very true, yet hell is certainly trying to tear down the Lord’s Church. IMO, we are seeing a completely unprecedented loss of faith in this time.
 
Riley259 said:
They probably should be excommunicated for their bald-faced support of abortion and other morally illicit issues.
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Well, pretty soon they will be told not to go to communion by our own bishops. I have a feeling that Rome will crack down on these so-called pro-choice “Catholics”.
 
JimO said:
Well, pretty soon they will be told not to go to communion. I have a feeling that Rome will crack down on these so-called pro-choice “Catholics”.
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Don’t hold your breath, I know in the North East it won’t go over well, nor will offending 75% of thier Parish base go well with the bottom line. It may seem crazy but when 75% of Catholics in the North East are pro-abortion, you can’t start to crack down on it, hence why I have never heard a homily on abortion, birth control, divorce (except my Parish priest essentially saying it’s a lofty ideal and the Church has ways to remedy those who can’t fit the ideal) or fornication. It won’t happen IMO.
  1. Here are a series of statements about issues facing the United States. For each, please tell me whether you agree strongly, agree somewhat, disagree somewhat or disagree strongly. – There has also been much discussion about the legality of abortion. Do you believe that abortion should be… (ABORTLEG)
    TOTAL %
  2. Illegal in all circumstances 100 12.5
  3. Legal only in rare circumstances 260 32.4
  4. Legal in many circumstances 190 23.7
  5. Legal in all circumstances? 233 29.1
  6. Don’t know/Refused/No opinion 19 2.4
    TOTAL 802 100.0
thearda.com/Archive/Files/Codebooks/GALLUP92_CB.asp

CAF is great, but also realize it is the ultra-conservative position most of the time. Sometimes we loose site of what the majority of Catholics are thinking. We can see that only 12% believe murdering a child should be illegal in all cases.

Like it or not, the nuns views are more in line wuith the majority of the Church militant than the correct views expressed here at CAF.
 
This is choice. A quote from the article worthy of Satan himself.
“I do value the voice of the church hierarchy,” Cunningham said. “But I don’t find anything in the Gospels about abortion or gay marriage.”
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JimO said:
This is choice. A quote from the article worthy of Satan himself.
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It is interesting that so many people say the Gospels are silent on homosexuality, yet they ignore the other books in the OT and NT. They also ignore the fact that Jesus is God and everything that is, was, and will be, comes through and for Jesus. That means everything that God said in the OT and NT is something that Jesus also said because He is part of the Holy Trinity–He IS God. If God said it in the OT, then that means Jesus said it. Many people miss that critical point.
 
Saint_Michael said:
Don’t hold your breath, I know in the North East it won’t go over well, nor will offending 75% of thier Parish base go well with the bottom line. It may seem crazy but when 75% of Catholics in the North East are pro-abortion, you can’t start to crack down on it, hence why I have never heard a homily on abortion, birth control, divorce (except my Parish priest essentially saying it’s a lofty ideal and the Church has ways to remedy those who can’t fit the ideal) or fornication. It won’t happen IMO.
  1. Here are a series of statements about issues facing the United States. For each, please tell me whether you agree strongly, agree somewhat, disagree somewhat or disagree strongly. – There has also been much discussion about the legality of abortion. Do you believe that abortion should be… (ABORTLEG)
    TOTAL %
  2. Illegal in all circumstances 100 12.5
  3. Legal only in rare circumstances 260 32.4
  4. Legal in many circumstances 190 23.7
  5. Legal in all circumstances? 233 29.1
  6. Don’t know/Refused/No opinion 19 2.4
    TOTAL 802 100.0
thearda.com/Archive/Files/Codebooks/GALLUP92_CB.asp

CAF is great, but also realize it is the ultra-conservative position most of the time. Sometimes we loose site of what the majority of Catholics are thinking. We can see that only 12% believe murdering a child should be illegal in all cases.

Like it or not, the nuns views are more in line wuith the majority of the Church militant than the correct views expressed here at CAF.
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By ultra-conservative do you mean those who actually adhere to the teachings of the Church? Is morality now to be based on polls?
 
I wish I could find a membership list for the Coalition, just so I can make sure my cousin isn’t a member.

Marsha
 
estesbob said:
By ultra-conservative do you mean those who actually adhere to the teachings of the Church? Is morality now to be based on polls?
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Benedict XVI did say that he saw a smaller, more faithful Church. If that’s what it takes to cleanse the Church of this kind of mindless heresy, so be it.
 
estesbob said:
By ultra-conservative do you mean those who actually adhere to the teachings of the Church?
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Yes
estesbob said:
Is morality now to be based on polls?
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I never said that, I simply stated these polls are the reasoning why there will be no crack down like the other poster suggested. The vast majority of the 1.2 billion Catholics fall into the realm of liberal or ultra-liberal. That’s a significant group to offend by declaring all people who support abortion vocally or by vote are ex-communicated. Based on that Gallup poll you’re excommunicating 88% of the US church.
 
Saint_Michael said:
Yes

I never said that, I simply stated these polls are the reasoning why there will be no crack down like the other poster suggested. The vast majority of the 1.2 billion Catholics fall into the realm of liberal or ultra-liberal. That’s a significant group to offend by declaring all people who support abortion vocally or by vote are ex-communicated. Based on that Gallup poll you’re excommunicating 88% of the US church.
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Then excommunicate them already!
 
Saint_Michael said:
Yes

I never said that, I simply stated these polls are the reasoning why there will be no crack down like the other poster suggested. The vast majority of the 1.2 billion Catholics fall into the realm of liberal or ultra-liberal. That’s a significant group to offend by declaring all people who support abortion vocally or by vote are ex-communicated. Based on that Gallup poll you’re excommunicating 88% of the US church.
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Good job! Excommunicate them. Cut them off from the Sacraments. Pronounce them anathema!

Excommunication has always been a last ditch effort to save the person’s soul. But if that doesn’t get their attention and bring them to repentence, better to protect the good apples by getting the rotten one out of the barrel.

Marsha
 
Saint_Michael said:
I never said that, I simply stated these polls are the reasoning why there will be no crack down like the other poster suggested. The vast majority of the 1.2 billion Catholics fall into the realm of liberal or ultra-liberal. That’s a significant group to offend by declaring all people who support abortion vocally or by vote are ex-communicated. Based on that Gallup poll you’re excommunicating 88% of the US church.
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… so what if that would mean excommunicating 88% of the U.S. Church!? What are they going to do - stop attending Mass?.. Oh wait; they already skip Mass. Keep in mind that most Catholics in the U.S. don’t even attend Mass.
 
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