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Catholic_farmer
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No, never got that one. I am just told that what we do isn’t in the bible (which sets me up quite nicely as I begin to point out where our beliefs come from* in the bible*, LOL!).
Nuttiest Things Non-Catholics Have Said or Done Around You Because You're Catholic
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DoGodsBidding
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Erich
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I guess I’m not as familiar with my Bible as I ought to be… I’m having a bit of trouble finding the verses that talk about Wednesday night church meetings and altar calls
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Barb3
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The only thing I can remember a non-Catholic saying a “nutty” thing to me happened years ago. I made a trip to Italy and I believe it was with a priest and many other people – we were in Rome and at St. Peter’s Square (if I remember the name correctly) and Pope John Paul was celebrating his 25th anniversary – there were thousands of us gathered congratulating him. When I was telling my story to a “staunch” Lutheran friend she asked me “weren’t you afraid?” What did she think we Catholics would do to one another? I’ve never forgotten it and it truly blew my mnd when she said it.
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XndrK
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… and all the Spanish speakers are out of luck, as well as those who spoke Biblical Greek and Aramaic (not to mention those of us who don’t speak Elizabethan English)?
I really don’t understand KJV Only.
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Catholic_farmer
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The Nuttiest thing was actually not spoken to me, but on a BBC tv show. I like documentaries. I know BBC has a good reputation, but this show is ridiculous. I suppose British tv is just as hit and miss as our own PBS documentaries.
I think it called “Dark Ages”. The first episode (which I didn’t make it through) was clearly some sort of Unitarian agenda. it was supposed to be a fair examination of the Dark Ages through art. First of all, they dismissed the Mother of God entirely, pretending that Christians didn’t have any devotion to Mary until the Dark Ages. Never mind what the early Church fathers said about Mary!! Never mind the pleas on the walls of the catacombs in Romans times for her intercession!! I was grumbling at the tv for several minutes before I just shut it off. These folks should really consult with theologians before trying to define everything through such a narrow view. Especially art, which is truly a poor historical record because of the element of style, the pressures from the wealthy and powerful on how the artist portrays events as well as people, and the resistance to changing a winning formula (if it sells, why change the look?).
They did have a cool segment about the Rotas Square, but that was all that I really found interesting.
I think it called “Dark Ages”. The first episode (which I didn’t make it through) was clearly some sort of Unitarian agenda. it was supposed to be a fair examination of the Dark Ages through art. First of all, they dismissed the Mother of God entirely, pretending that Christians didn’t have any devotion to Mary until the Dark Ages. Never mind what the early Church fathers said about Mary!! Never mind the pleas on the walls of the catacombs in Romans times for her intercession!! I was grumbling at the tv for several minutes before I just shut it off. These folks should really consult with theologians before trying to define everything through such a narrow view. Especially art, which is truly a poor historical record because of the element of style, the pressures from the wealthy and powerful on how the artist portrays events as well as people, and the resistance to changing a winning formula (if it sells, why change the look?).
They did have a cool segment about the Rotas Square, but that was all that I really found interesting.
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phil19034
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There are over 30,000 denomination because each “non-denominational” church is it’s own denomination.
Every time some person founds a “non-denominational” community, a new denomination is formed.
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Padres1969
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Seems kind of like an oxymoron to say that however. If something is “non-denominational” then it by definition can’t be a denomination.
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nick347
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Some of my co-workers are Evangelical Christians and we often have discussions about our faith. We were talking about Purgatory once, and one asked, “what happens when you get out of Purgatory…does the Purgatory Bus come and take you to heaven?”
Now if anyone messes up at work they ask how much more time they will spend in Purgatory for it.
We all have a good relationship about it, and enjoy our discussions.
Now if anyone messes up at work they ask how much more time they will spend in Purgatory for it.
We all have a good relationship about it, and enjoy our discussions.
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Michael68
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I usually get “Catholics added books to the bible”. This, of course, is not true but seems to be taught to protestants.
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Michael68
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If you really want to see the nuttiest on display, go to a so-called Christian forum and announce you’re Catholic. The nuts will come out and generally all the myths will be told to you.
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KjetilK
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No, it is because the statisticians who came up with the number counts every national Church (for example every national hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church) as a single Church, and sometimes every diocese as one Church, thus dividing the Roman Catholic Church into over 200 different churches. Some coutries, often because of state funding of various religious and non-religious* groups, count each of the dioceses as separate denominations. In Norway, for instance, the two Roman Catholic dioceses are juridically classified as two denominations.
- Like the Humanists Society, etc.
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rfournier103
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The above post was from June 19, 2012 (#107 on this thread)
The Protestant girlfriend I was talking about is now a Catholic and my wife. She entered the Church at the Easter Vigil in 2013, and is a cantor at our parish!
A couple months after I posted this in June, we had a HUGE argument about the Real Presence. It was nasty. That very Sunday, the Gospel reading from John Chapter 6 (20th Sunday in Ordinary Time - Year B) and the priest’s homily made her rethink the “Real Presence”… especially since only a few days earlier we were “discussing” it.
RCIA followed, and with the help of the most knowledgeable priest I have ever met, she “came home”. That paved the way for us to be married and we’ve been VERY happy ever since
She’s VERY happy as a Catholic!This is one of my all-time favorite threads on this (or any other) forum.
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Rasoleil
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Anything about Mary, I’d say. I very recently perplexed a Lutheran Pastor, a friend, so what I did wasn’t out of meanness, but honestly trying to seek opinions, regarding Mary. The Lutheran Pastor had nothing at all crazy to say about Mary, and I had all good intentions about asking him about what her personally thought about Mary and Catholic Marian dogmas. I got the typical and theologically correct ( according to Lutheran beliefs ) responses, until I did some further research for my own edification until I learned more about Martin Luther’s devotion and beliefs regarding Mary. I knew the basics, but didn’t know HOW devoted and HOW his beliefs corresponded EXACTLY to Catholic dogma of the time, as it is the same now. He even believed in the Immaculate Conception ( as well as the other Marian dogmas) four centuries before it was made dogma in 1854. I knew of his basic Marian beliefs, but I had no idea that he actually wrote, taught, and preached sermons about the Immaculate Conception ( didn’t use that term exactly), the Virgin Birth, and Mary’s Perpetual Virginity, and this was well after his separation from the Church. Furthermore, Luther being the scholar that he was, backed up every Marian dogma that he believed in with scripture. And then the Pastor said that just because Martin Luther believed in those Marian dogmas, that doesn’t make it doctrine. Then I asked if Martin Luther was theologically ( according to present Lutheran doctrine ) incorrect about those Marian dogmas, then could he not be mistaken, misinformed, or just ignorant of anything Biblical? Could he not then be incorrect about anything that he wrote in the Confessions, anything he wrote, taught, and preached? I did not really get an answer on that one. And with my research, my own questions or doubts of my own Catholic prejudices were resolved when I came across the Lutheran theologian Piepkorn, who carefully and thoroughly researched Martin Luther’s Marian beliefs.
No problem there, as my search for knowledge was genuine, and so I brought my evidence and questions to the Pastor. He said that he knew Luther’s beliefs ( I should have known), but said he was not convinced unless it was backed by scripture. And also that the term “Immaculate Conception” wasn’t in the Bible. I said that neither was the “Trinity” nor the “Bible.” in the Bible. Ahem, that discussion, that particular discussion, did not go any further.
No problem there, as my search for knowledge was genuine, and so I brought my evidence and questions to the Pastor. He said that he knew Luther’s beliefs ( I should have known), but said he was not convinced unless it was backed by scripture. And also that the term “Immaculate Conception” wasn’t in the Bible. I said that neither was the “Trinity” nor the “Bible.” in the Bible. Ahem, that discussion, that particular discussion, did not go any further.
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phil19034
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AWESOME!!! Praise be to God!The above post was from June 19, 2012 (#107 on this thread)
The Protestant girlfriend I was talking about is now a Catholic and my wife. She entered the Church at the Easter Vigil in 2013, and is a cantor at our parish!
A couple months after I posted this in June, we had a HUGE argument about the Real Presence. It was nasty. That very Sunday, the Gospel reading from John Chapter 6 (20th Sunday in Ordinary Time - Year B) and the priest’s homily made her rethink the “Real Presence”… especially since only a few days earlier we were “discussing” it.
RCIA followed, and with the help of the most knowledgeable priest I have ever met, she “came home”. That paved the way for us to be married and we’ve been VERY happy ever since
This is one of my all-time favorite threads on this (or any other) forum.
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Sam43232
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Oh boy, do I have a lot! My wife and I entered the Church at the 2016 Easter Vigil. Lots of interesting experiences, including (sadly) one from a Catholic:
Dad’s Catholic coworker
(after being told I was converting) Why would he want to do that?
My uncle
Had an email discussion where he eventually said he was worried about my daughter growing up in a Catholic environment. He’d been researching Catholicism, apparently, and his ‘research’ told him that we worship Mary (among other things.) He also reads tonnes of highly critical articles of Pope Francis on LifeSiteNews and nothing positive about the Church.
My boss
Hired me as a teacher in a ‘Christian’ school, after I told him I was planning on becoming a Catholic. Since I clearly knew the Bible very well, there was no way I was serious, despite the fact that my application asked for books I’d read recently and I listed Hail Holy Queen, A Protestant’s Dilemma, Evangelical is Not Enough and Where We Got the Bible: Our Debt to the Catholic Church. He thought I was just looking for a halfway point between my wife’s Pentecostal background and my Reformed background and somehow thought, ‘Hey, let’s try the Catholic Church!’ …so basically, I’m too smart to be suckered in but clueless enough to think that the Catholic Church might be a halfway stop between Reformed and Pentecostal style churches…
He told me my contract would be honored, but asked me to keep my Catholicism as private as possible and meet with a Protestant pastor. He said I wouldn’t have my contract renewed, but I wasn’t being dismissed for being Catholic, it was for ‘other reasons’… when pressed, said that it was because I started receiving communion in a Catholic Church. They got quite upset that I characterized it as being dismissed for my faith and spent some time trying to convince me that this was nothing of the sort. The whole thing was made doubly ironic because the pastor I was asked to meet with works for a Catholic university, and when they were trying to get me to see it as a mutually agreed upon parting of ways, kept asking me what would happen if they came out as evangelicals while working for ‘Scott Hahn’s university’… turns out, something very different… (see bylaw 3.3 if you follow the link… lol)
My mom
(After I mentioned being interesting in joining the Knights of Columbus) I heard you have to deny that God exists in order to achieve the highest rank.
Grandparents in-law
Asked why this happened? Did I not grow up in a Bible-believing church? What would make me want to join the Roman Church which is a church-believing church?
Father IL
We’re becoming Catholic.
FIL gets up and walks out.
(He has since apologized. He was mostly surprised, didn’t know how to react.)
Friend
(after I told him I was converting) You do know that I hate and despise everything about the Catholic Church, don’t you? (We are still on good terms, he’s got no tact but also not a mean bone in his body.)
Sister
(after I told her we’d be attending a Catholic Church)
Her: For evangelism purposes, right?
Me: Kinda… mostly to be evangelized.
Her: We’ll see how long that lasts.
Coworker
(paraphrase) I know many ex-Catholics in my Bible study who were damaged by the Catholic church. Their priests visit parishioners to get drunk, they think strange things about Mary. I’ve got a very good book by an ex-Catholic you should read.
Weird Family Discussions
I tried explaining why it wasn’t sufficient for us to simply attend a Protestant service on Sunday when we stayed the weekend with them. I was asked if we’d get in trouble for missing Mass, etc. Now we end up going to both whenever we visit to keep the peace.
Some of my family members were worried that we believed they were going to hell for being Protestant.
Dad
(after I explained that I disagreed with sola scriptura)
Dad: Well, we don’t believe sola scriptura either!
Mom: Uhhh… yes we do…
(I love my dad dearly, but the fact that he attends Protestant church services every Sunday, has hosted Protestant Bible study groups and has been a deacon and an elder etc. and still missed this blows me out of the water whenever I think about it.)
!An Important Disclaimer!
By the way, it should be said that to the best of my knowledge these are all lovely people who sincerely want the best for us. In particular, my parents and siblings all attended the Easter Vigil and took my wife and I out for dinner beforehand to celebrate. I would also not be so blunt if I were using real names, some of these were innocent or sincerely regretted mistakes
Dad’s Catholic coworker
(after being told I was converting) Why would he want to do that?
My uncle
Had an email discussion where he eventually said he was worried about my daughter growing up in a Catholic environment. He’d been researching Catholicism, apparently, and his ‘research’ told him that we worship Mary (among other things.) He also reads tonnes of highly critical articles of Pope Francis on LifeSiteNews and nothing positive about the Church.
My boss
Hired me as a teacher in a ‘Christian’ school, after I told him I was planning on becoming a Catholic. Since I clearly knew the Bible very well, there was no way I was serious, despite the fact that my application asked for books I’d read recently and I listed Hail Holy Queen, A Protestant’s Dilemma, Evangelical is Not Enough and Where We Got the Bible: Our Debt to the Catholic Church. He thought I was just looking for a halfway point between my wife’s Pentecostal background and my Reformed background and somehow thought, ‘Hey, let’s try the Catholic Church!’ …so basically, I’m too smart to be suckered in but clueless enough to think that the Catholic Church might be a halfway stop between Reformed and Pentecostal style churches…
He told me my contract would be honored, but asked me to keep my Catholicism as private as possible and meet with a Protestant pastor. He said I wouldn’t have my contract renewed, but I wasn’t being dismissed for being Catholic, it was for ‘other reasons’… when pressed, said that it was because I started receiving communion in a Catholic Church.
They got quite upset that I characterized it as being dismissed for my faith and spent some time trying to convince me that this was nothing of the sort. The whole thing was made doubly ironic because the pastor I was asked to meet with works for a Catholic university, and when they were trying to get me to see it as a mutually agreed upon parting of ways, kept asking me what would happen if they came out as evangelicals while working for ‘Scott Hahn’s university’… turns out, something very different… (see bylaw 3.3 if you follow the link… lol)My mom
(After I mentioned being interesting in joining the Knights of Columbus) I heard you have to deny that God exists in order to achieve the highest rank.
Grandparents in-law
Asked why this happened? Did I not grow up in a Bible-believing church? What would make me want to join the Roman Church which is a church-believing church?
Father IL
We’re becoming Catholic.
FIL gets up and walks out.
(He has since apologized. He was mostly surprised, didn’t know how to react.)
Friend
(after I told him I was converting) You do know that I hate and despise everything about the Catholic Church, don’t you? (We are still on good terms, he’s got no tact but also not a mean bone in his body.)
Sister
(after I told her we’d be attending a Catholic Church)
Her: For evangelism purposes, right?
Me: Kinda… mostly to be evangelized.
Her: We’ll see how long that lasts.
Coworker
(paraphrase) I know many ex-Catholics in my Bible study who were damaged by the Catholic church. Their priests visit parishioners to get drunk, they think strange things about Mary. I’ve got a very good book by an ex-Catholic you should read.
Weird Family Discussions
I tried explaining why it wasn’t sufficient for us to simply attend a Protestant service on Sunday when we stayed the weekend with them. I was asked if we’d get in trouble for missing Mass, etc. Now we end up going to both whenever we visit to keep the peace.
Some of my family members were worried that we believed they were going to hell for being Protestant.
Dad
(after I explained that I disagreed with sola scriptura)
Dad: Well, we don’t believe sola scriptura either!
Mom: Uhhh… yes we do…
(I love my dad dearly, but the fact that he attends Protestant church services every Sunday, has hosted Protestant Bible study groups and has been a deacon and an elder etc. and still missed this blows me out of the water whenever I think about it.)
!An Important Disclaimer!
By the way, it should be said that to the best of my knowledge these are all lovely people who sincerely want the best for us. In particular, my parents and siblings all attended the Easter Vigil and took my wife and I out for dinner beforehand to celebrate. I would also not be so blunt if I were using real names, some of these were innocent or sincerely regretted mistakes
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anon67074017
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Someone on NationStates compared me to ISIS because I hold Catholic views on government.
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Padres1969
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No offense Joseph, but some of your views you’ve expressed on CAF on Catholic government could actually be legitimately compared to any Theocracy including Daesh.
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anon67074017
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Which views are those?No offense Joseph, but some of your views you’ve expressed on CAF on Catholic government could actually be legitimately compared to any Theocracy including Daesh.
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Pax_Vobiscum_57
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My grandfather, a staunch Methodist from Norway, told my cousin, who is a priest, that he would never be “saved” if he stayed on his course. He stayed and now is in his 53rd year of priesthood.
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