NYC Mayor Criticized for Decision to Exclude Clergy From 9/11 Ceremony

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Well everybody can thank God that a man like Guilliani was at the helm that day, and not Bloomberg
 
Darryl1958 said:
Well everybody can thank God that a man like Guilliani was at the helm that day, and not Bloomberg
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Just as we can all thank God that George Bush was President that day, and not Al Gore.

Gore would have tried to punish al-Queda by demanding that they buy carbon credits for the amount of smoke and dust they caused in the attack. :rolleyes:
 
Regarding Bloomberg’s decision, I’m not against him not using clerics for prayer that day because it is a diverse city. I do hope the faithful show up though. I can’t believe it’s been ten years already
 
Gift_from_God said:
Regarding Bloomberg’s decision, I’m not against him not using clerics for prayer that day because it is a diverse city. I do hope the faithful show up though. I can’t believe it’s been ten years already
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Well here’s something to ponder.

Surely SOME of the victims (and their families) were Christian. Or Jewish. Or Muslim.

Now I know that as a practicing Catholic Christian, my faith is not limited to ‘going to church one hour a week’ or ‘praying in my home’.

As a practicing Catholic Christian, my faith literally IS MY LIFE.

So if my life is going to be ‘commemorated’, it is a sham, a sin, and a shame to remove the clergy who symbolize my religion-- something which literally was MY LIFE–as if my religion was simply not important enough to recognize in the commemoration of that life.

I imagine that there will be a few Christian, Jewish, and Muslim families who will be very unhappy at having the symbols of their loved one’s greatest joy, glory and life (their religion) ‘banned’. . .
 
Tantum_ergo said:
Well here’s something to ponder.

Surely SOME of the victims (and their families) were Christian. Or Jewish. Or Muslim.

Now I know that as a practicing Catholic Christian, my faith is not limited to ‘going to church one hour a week’ or ‘praying in my home’.

As a practicing Catholic Christian, my faith literally IS MY LIFE.

So if my life is going to be ‘commemorated’, it is a sham, a sin, and a shame to remove the clergy who symbolize my religion-- something which literally was MY LIFE–as if my religion was simply not important enough to recognize in the commemoration of that life.

I imagine that there will be a few Christian, Jewish, and Muslim families who will be very unhappy at having the symbols of their loved one’s greatest joy, glory and life (their religion) ‘banned’. . .
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But it’s for everyone, not just Catholics like yourself
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
Of course, when a liberal censors or forbids something, it isn’t *really *censorship, is it . . . . . . Really, just a celebration of “freedom,” right?
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Satan always knows how to twist the language to make his decrees sound fair and reasonable. :mad:

The politically correct placating of non-Christian and anti-Christian minorities is an ANTI-DEMOCRATIC sell out. The minority rules!!!
Most of you Americans are Christians…or are you?
 
I posted my comment on the article page, but here is what I said:

I find it odd and sad that at a time when we come together to remember, grieve, and mourn, that there is still so much hate. It doesn’t cause progress. I don’t agree with his decision. In fact, if I were a member of the clergy, I would be inclined to show up anyway. As a Catholic, I hope many priests and religious are allowed to be at the ceremony, especially if they wear distinct religious dress. The same goes for those of other faiths. This shows the Mayor that you don’t have to be officially invited as part of the ceremony to have a presence of faith.
 
didymus said:
Thank you & welcome to the forums. I am also from the 3rd planet!

I think worse than not inviting clergy which one could debate is his exclusion of the first responders.
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i was astounded when i heard the first responders were not invited. i couldn’t understand that. how many first responders were lost that day!!! now, there will be no clergy invited either? i am thankful i don’t live under the rule of bloomberg. what would be wrong with having a representative from Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism
say a few words? people around the country turned to their places of worship after 9/11 happened. this makes absolutely no sense to me. :confused:
 
Wolseley said:
Just as we can all thank God that George Bush was President that day, and not Al Gore.

Gore would have tried to punish al-Queda by demanding that they buy carbon credits for the amount of smoke and dust they caused in the attack. :rolleyes:
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as always Wolseley, your posts always hit the mark!!! 👍 and some of them always bring some laughter too like this one. thanks! 🙂
 
Wasn’t there only four Jewish people who died on 9/11? Perhaps this is why attending the ceremony is not a big issue for the Rabbi; an additional reason might the collective jewish mindset he has with Bloomberg who seems to worship money more then God. It should be up to the victims families about inviting members of the clergy to the ceremony and not Bloomberg. There is definitely a continued attack on the beleif in God and people of faith need to start fighting back before its illegal to even mention Jesus name in public. The time is coming as Jesus prophecized when we will be persecuted because of beleiving in Him. We must stand up and not allow anyone to make us deny His Name!!/SIZE]
 
ringil said:
It’s very complicated though. If you were a family member of a victim you might feel differently. There is certainly an argument to be made that the events of the day itself should be limited to those who perished in the attacks.

As far at the religious figures I feel this certainly could have been done AS LONG as representatives of not only Christian, but also other faiths were included.
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1st off, no one is suggesting that only Christian clergy be invited.
Anyone from NYC please correct me but Mayor Bloomberg’s line seems to be that this ceremony is for the families and there is no room for clergy of the 1st responders. BUT I’ve also read that the event is top-heavy with officials & politicians.
Weed a few of them out, make room for a couple representatives from FDNY & NYPD and I bet you’ll still be able to shoehorn in a priest, minister, rabbi, imam, lama, &c.
 
How long before Bloomberg has to step down and there are new candidates for the Mayor of NYC?
 
ed2see said:
Wasn’t there only four Jewish people who died on 9/11? Perhaps this is why attending the ceremony is not a big issue for the Rabbi; an additional reason might the collective jewish mindset he has with Bloomberg who seems to worship money more then God. It should be up to the victims families about inviting members of the clergy to the ceremony and not Bloomberg. There is definitely a continued attack on the beleif in God and people of faith need to start fighting back before its illegal to even mention Jesus name in public. The time is coming as Jesus prophecized when we will be persecuted because of beleiving in Him. We must stand up and not allow anyone to make us deny His Name!!/SIZE]

Where did you get that information? Surely there were many Jewish people who died on that tragic day. I am also offended by your statement about the so-called “collective Jewish mindset” with regard to worshiping money more than G-d. Jews do not worship money and there is no collective Jewish mindset. Indeed Jews can hardly agree about anything. (Neither can Jesuits, I’m told.)
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Gift_from_God said:
But it’s for everyone, not just Catholics like yourself
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Um. . .Maybe I didn’t make myself clear.

Since when does something, in order to be for ‘everyone’, wind up BANNING certain groups?

I’m not saying ONLY Christian clergy should be allowed --in fact I deliberately referenced Jewish and Muslim people as well as Christians, because devout people of any religious belief–and yes there were probably devout Hindu and Buddhists as well who also have clergy and cherished beliefs and practices–

I mean, really, are they banning any other group than ‘clergy’ and WHY would clergy be banned when at least some of the victims, and their families, are practicing devout members OF a religion.

So, ‘saying the event is for everybody’ must mean ‘everybody who DOESN’T practice a religion’. . .:rolleyes:
 
didymus said:
1st off, no one is suggesting that only Christian clergy be invited.
Anyone from NYC please correct me but Mayor Bloomberg’s line seems to be that this ceremony is for the families and there is no room for clergy of the 1st responders. BUT I’ve also read that the event is top-heavy with officials & politicians.
Weed a few of them out, make room for a couple representatives from FDNY & NYPD and I bet you’ll still be able to shoehorn in a priest, minister, rabbi, imam, lama, &c.
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Yes, I can agree with this.

Politicians should be kept at a minimum.
 
meltzerboy said:
Where did you get that information? Surely there were many Jewish people who died on that tragic day. I am also offended by your statement about the so-called “collective Jewish mindset” with regard to worshiping money more than G-d. Jews do not worship money and there is no collective Jewish mindset. Indeed Jews can hardly agree about anything. (Neither can Jesuits, I’m told.)
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Only four Jewish people in the World Trade Center, in New York City, seems like one of the most outlandish claim I’ve ever heard.

And ed2see’s statement about Jews wroshipping money seems pretty clearly anti-Semitic. He could certainly be reported for that.

Jesuits may well agree on one thing: Notre Dame is overrated; Georgetown and Boston College are real universities. Other than that though, you’re right.
 
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