NYTimes: Fahr and Benedict.

[unafraid]

Please, if you wish to be respected, which I doubt is a part of your agenda, do not refer to the Holy Father as , “Ratzinger”. His name is Pope Benedict. We love him.

 

[OriginalJS]

Please, if you wish to be respected, which I doubt is a part of your agenda, do not refer to the Holy Father as , “Ratzinger”. His name is Pope Benedict. We love him.

I never heard that it is disrespectful to refer to a Pope by his surname. I have known of Catholic high schools named after Popes including Roncalli, Montini, and Pacelli. This does not seem disrespectful.

 

[unafraid]

So what is the name of your Rabbi? Then I will use it as harshly as i can. Since it is all good fun…no harm…right?

 

[lemonbeam]

Corrections

Published: March 27, 2010

INTERNATIONAL

An article on Thursday about the fallout from the Roman Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe misstated the estimated number of children in Ireland who were victims, according to two government reports last year. The report said the children numbered in the tens of thousands, not the “hundreds of thousands.” (Go to Article)

nytimes.com/2010/03/27/pageoneplus/corrections.html

 

[Beau_Ouiville]

I don’t think you have the headline correct. The paper seems to have admitted a mis-quote. While it was a significant error, it did not ‘grossly exaggerate’ nor did it apologize for such an act.

 

[lemonbeam]

I don’t think you have the headline correct. The paper seems to have admitted a mis-quote. While it was a significant error, it did not ‘grossly exaggerate’ nor did it apologize for such an act.

NY Times Admits It Grossly Exaggerated Abuse Numbers is the news article title from ncregister.com where I found it.

 

[Beau_Ouiville]

NY Times Admits It Grossly Exaggerated Abuse Numbers is the news article title from ncregister.com where I found it.

Then that headline is inaccurate, too.

The Times mis-quoted a report. Now some may suspect a sinister motive in this but I’m not one of them.

 

[lemonbeam]

Then that headline is inaccurate, too.

The Times mis-quoted a report. Now some may suspect a sinister motive in this but I’m not one of them.

They did misquote, I think the title is accurate. I doubt they did it with any sinister motive, but many people have pointed out that their reporting this week has not been great. A lot of suspicion portrayed as fact.

 

[manygift1spirit]

Then that headline is inaccurate, too.

The Times mis-quoted a report. Now some may suspect a sinister motive in this but I’m not one of them.

I am not to the point of assigning a sinister motive here. But without doubt the Times’ BS-meter is jammed and works in only certain types of scenarios.

 

[spn82756]

Then that headline is inaccurate, too.

The Times mis-quoted a report. Now some may suspect a sinister motive in this but I’m not one of them.

I guess it’s okay now that it was only the the TENS of thousands rather than HUNDREDS of thousands. Wheeew. No worry now…is there?

 

[lemonbeam]

I guess it’s okay now that it was only the the TENS of thousands rather than HUNDREDS of thousands. Wheeew. No worry now…is there?

It does matter. Every one-less matters! They made a big mistake, that does deserve correction!

 

[Beau_Ouiville]

I guess it’s okay now that it was only the the TENS of thousands rather than HUNDREDS of thousands. Wheeew. No worry now…is there?

May I quote myself?

"While it was a significant error, it did not ‘grossly exaggerate’ nor did it apologize for such an act. "

 

[IHeartBenedict]

To heck with the numbers. Here is the real misinformation: Most reported cases involved boys in their early teens. That is not pedophelia, it is homosexuality. But the media won’t report that because it reflects badly on homosexuals. Instead the media incites anger by calling it pedophelia. That is a fact that Catholics need to tune in to.

 

[spn82756]

It does matter. Every one-less matters! They made a big mistake, that does deserve correction!

You are absolutely correct. But the over reported amount does not affect the situation. We know the NYT is hardly friendly toward the CC or Christianity as a whole. The CC is the largest Church and claims to hold the truth. Evil men have brought her down in the eyes of many constantly in the last couple of decades. Something needs to be done. Cardinal Law…instead of paying the price for his negligence in the Boston area…now sits comfortably in a basilica in Rome.

 

[spn82756]

May I quote myself?

"While it was a significant error, it did not ‘grossly exaggerate’ nor did it apologize for such an act. "

We are in agreement. Sorry if my reply was confusing.

 

[Fitz]

To heck with the numbers. Here is the real misinformation: Most reported cases involved boys in their early teens. That is not pedophelia, it is homosexuality. But the media won’t report that because it reflects badly on homosexuals. Instead the media incites anger by calling it pedophelia. That is a fact that Catholics need to tune in to.

I have read this argument many times, and it is true. There has been and always will be a media attack on the Catholic Church. This is all part of that.

 

[spn82756]

I have read this argument many times, and it is true. There has been and always will be a media attack on the Catholic Church. This is all part of that.

Is one more acceptable than the other? I think I know what you’re saying. Both are sinful and the media accepts homosexuality as just fine. The church though…needs to do be open about these things. The attempt to keep things quiet in order to avoid scandal has brought about the biggest scandal.

 

[chaunceygardner]

To heck with the numbers. Here is the real misinformation: Most reported cases involved boys in their early teens. That is not pedophelia, it is homosexuality. But the media won’t report that because it reflects badly on homosexuals. Instead the media incites anger by calling it pedophelia. That is a fact that Catholics need to tune in to.

That’s just wrong. You are saying a 13 or 14 year old boy cannot be abused or intimidated? And if you read the interviews and the stories of the victims there is little if any indication of homosexuality. This is overwhelmingly sexual, physical and emotional abuse, in some cases bordering on torture.

It does the Church and Catholics a great disservice to try to rationalize and downplay such abhorrent evil.

As to the NY Times “error”, we are supposed to be relieved that the victims numbered in the 10 thousands rather than 100 thousands?? If you read the actual reports from Ireland and then extrapolate it in time and geography, I have the feeling the Times was closer to the truth with the original number. We will never know.

But God knows.

 

[lemonbeam]

To heck with the numbers. Here is the real misinformation: Most reported cases involved boys in their early teens. That is not pedophelia, it is homosexuality. But the media won’t report that because it reflects badly on homosexuals. Instead the media incites anger by calling it pedophelia. That is a fact that Catholics need to tune in to.

Not to mention, the vast number of cases are ephebophilia, not pedophilia. Ephebophilia is the sexual preference of adults for mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19

I don’t always like blaming it on some else if you know what I mean, but this is homosexuality.

Catholic Knight says, In the overwhelming vast majority of cases where sexual abuse was reported in the Catholic Church, the alleged victim was a male between the ages of 12 and 18. Victims younger than 12 were almost never reported, and sexual abuse of females was also rare. This is not the clinical definition of pedophilia. It is however a type of predatory homosexuality that seeks to take advantage of underage young men. Therefore the term “pedophile priests” is a misnomer and not based on hard statistical data. A more accurate term should be “predatory homosexual priests.”

catholicknight.blogspot.com/2010/03/catholic-sex-abuse-scandal-and-cover-up.html

 

[lemonbeam]

That’s just wrong. You are saying a 13 or 14 year old boy cannot be abused or intimidated? And if you read the interviews and the stories of the victims there is little if any indication of homosexuality. This is overwhelmingly sexual, physical and emotional abuse, in some cases bordering on torture.

It does the Church and Catholics a great disservice to try to rationalize and downplay such abhorrent evil.

As to the NY Times “error”, we are supposed to be relieved that the victims numbered in the 10 thousands rather than 100 thousands?? If you read the actual reports from Ireland and then extrapolate it in time and geography, I have the feeling the Times was closer to the truth with the original number. We will never know.

But God knows.

Abuse is abuse. No matter what age. No mater what sexuality. And can you stop stereotyping all Catholics as being one thing, it’s ridiculous. What denomination do you belong to?