Obama Admin knew millions could not keep their health ins.

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SaintAugustine said:
Lol…link please. I guarantee you that the cost of medical care in NY is not going down by 50%. That is delusional….
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That claim is true. NY is one of the few states where rates are projected to go down.

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From Forbes:
Today’s release, with the third iteration of the map, contains both premium and subsidy data for every state except Hawaii. (Believe it or not, we’ve had success mining data from every exchange website but Hawaii’s.) This nearly-complete analysis finds that the average state will face underlying premium increases of 41 percent. Men will face the steepest increases: 77, 37, and 47 percent for 27-year-olds, 40-year-olds, and 64-year-olds, respectively. Women will also face increases, but to a lesser degree: 18%, 28%, and 37% for 27-, 40-, and 64-year-olds.

Eight states will enjoy average premium reductions under Obamacare: New York (-40%), Colorado (-22%), Ohio (-21%), Massachusetts (-20%), New Jersey (-19%), New Hampshire (-18%), Rhode Island (-10%), and Indiana (-3%). Most, but not all, of these states had heavily-regulated individual insurance markets prior to Obamacare, and will therefore benefit from Obamacare’s subsidies, and especially its requirement that everyone purchase health insurance or pay a fine.

The eight states that will face the biggest increases in underlying premiums are largely southern and western states: Nevada (+179%), New Mexico (+142%), Arkansas (+138%), North Carolina (+136%), Vermont (+117%), Georgia (+92%), South Dakota (+77%), and Nebraska (+74%).
To which I say good for those 8 states. Bad for everybody else in the country. Ju
 
gamewell45 said:
All I can tell you is that the costs are going down in NY by almost 50%.
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No, they aren’t. The costs are NOT going down, they are probably increasing exponentially. The PREMIUMS may be going down from govt subsidy, but the cost is not. And exactly WHERE is that govt subsidy coming from??? Obama’s magical money tree that he keeps in the Rose Garden?
 
zz912 said:
No, they aren’t. The costs are NOT going down, they are probably increasing exponentially. The PREMIUMS may be going down from govt subsidy, but the cost is not. And exactly WHERE is that govt subsidy coming from??? Obama’s magical money tree that he keeps in the Rose Garden?
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The government subsidy will be borrowed, of course. No way around that.
 
markomalley said:
That claim is true. NY is one of the few states where rates are projected to go down.
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From what I’ve gathered so far, people on the high end of their age range will benefit more than those on the low end. (Insurance companies had generally increased premiums for each year prior to this.) For example, someone who is 64 will benefit more than someone who is 51 where the premium is the same for everyone 51-64.

BTW, in Illinois, someone who is 64 will find his premiums about half of what they were under the state’s high-risk pool (ICHIPS). I believe many states are canceling or discontinuing these high-risk pools altogether.
 
zz912 said:
No, they aren’t. The costs are NOT going down, they are probably increasing exponentially. The PREMIUMS may be going down from govt subsidy, but the cost is not. And exactly WHERE is that govt subsidy coming from??? Obama’s magical money tree that he keeps in the Rose Garden?
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Romneycare has been getting fed subsidies in Massachusetts. It was one of its “features.”
 
zz912 said:
No, they aren’t. The costs are NOT going down, they are probably increasing exponentially. The PREMIUMS may be going down from govt subsidy, but the cost is not. And exactly WHERE is that govt subsidy coming from??? Obama’s magical money tree that he keeps in the Rose Garden?
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Well said. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
Obama lied,as a result millions are now w/o healthcare of any kind,come Jan.
Just loooove the way he Is scrambling to save his behind,given the outright manner in which he lied.Boy if his head doesn’t roll over this I don’t know,I have grown to dispise this man.:mad:
 
We impeached a President for having oral sex with an intern in The Oval Office who liied about it. To lie to the American people about their personal health care is incomprehensible. A lie to cover up a lie, unreal.

dailycaller.com/2013/11/05/obama-denies-you-can-keep-it-videotaped-promises/#ixzz2joISCFVB
President Barack Obama told his enthusiastic supporters Monday night that he never promised what video recordings show him promising at least 29 times.
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The videos show Obama promising 300 million Americans that “if you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan, period.”
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But that’s not what he really said, Obama announced Monday in a speech to about 200 Organizing for Action supporters, gathered at the St. Regis hotel in D.C.
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“What we said was you could keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law was passed,” he told Obamacare’s political beneficiaries and contractors.
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Pelosi famously said, “We have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what’s in it.”

Not surprisingly, the same process is used for a stool sample.
 
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