Obama Administration Delays Pipeline Decision

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One of my friends is a farmer.

I cleaned up his language a bit, but here is what he says:

I don’t now what you do for a living but have you checked the prices of chicken wings lately? The price is through the roof because farmers can’t afford to raise chickens any more due to the price of chicken feed. Anything made out of oil such as fertilizers etc. is going to drive the price of farm products out of sight. They might have to change the name of Buffalo Chicken Wings “Road Kill Wings” just to get the prices down.

Obama has done all he said he was going to do for the Middle Class or what is left of it. He hasn’t raised taxes one bit but what does it matter when everything you buy costs you more anyway such as gas and food. Inflation is about to move in and Obama is doing what about it? NOTHING!!!

1.5 trillion a year negative spending under his watch and he called Bush unpatriotic when Bush was overspending @400 billion a year.

This country is going to h*ll with this President as we were under Bush but now we are in the fast lane and Chuckles the Clown has the Presidents ear as we are going down the road.

Just remember this everybody. If he tried to do this in an election year just think what he will do if he gets re-elected. How about a campaign sticker that reads"No thanks no gas pipeline for me my car uses wind energy to get around town". You don’t hear too many people saying that they wish they made a dollar a day for every Chevy Volt they see on the road every day. 8,000 sold and still going
 
This just came in. Additional factual information.

From www.sepp.org at their TWTW e-newsletter.

There are two references, for which you will need to visit the link and click on the current newsletter.

Excerpt:

Keystone Pipeline: On Wednesday, President Obama rejected the request by TransCanada for permits to build a 1700 mile long pipeline to transport crude petroleum from the oil sands of Alberta, Canada, to refineries in the US along the gulf coast. This oil would supplement the heavy crude from Venezuela and Mexico, where production is declining due to the failure of investment by the government owned oil companies. The pipeline was to be privately financed, requiring no government subsidies or loans, and would provide construction jobs along the route. It would supply necessary oil from a reliable ally by the safest method to transport oil - overland pipeline.

The decision elated the environmental industry and demonstrated the extent to which this industry influences energy and economic policy in the US. In praising the decision, an editorial in the New York Times stated that the government should focus on renewable and alternative energy. Typical for the environmental industry and its advocates, the Times misled its readers by failing to state that oil produces less than one percent of the electricity in the US, mostly on site, such as emergency generation for hospitals when the electrical grid fails. Electricity from wind and solar is not a substitute for oil. Biofuels are a substitute for oil, but as of now require vast amounts of land, drive up food prices, and would not be economically viable without mandates (the subsidies were phased out at the end of 2011).

The decision has other ramifications. The pro-growth government of Canada has made it clear it intends to support the building of a pipeline from Alberta to the Pacific coast in British Columbia in order to transport oil to Asia. The US environmental industry is not welcomed by the government of Canada.

In the spring of 2011, the Obama administration arranged for a $2 Billion loan from the US Export-Import Bank to the Brazilian government controlled oil company Petrobras to develop deep-water fields off the coast of Brazil. When visiting Brazil in the spring, President Obama declared that the US wants to be a major trading partner of Brazil for the importation of oil from these fields. The company has now signed deals with Chinese companies for the development of the fields and delivery of oil to China.

Thanks to the innovative development of extraction of oil from the dense Bakken shale formation, this year North Dakota is on track to become the second largest oil producing state, after Texas, surpassing California and Alaska, which have been hobbled for decades by unnecessary environmental restrictions by Washington. The Keystone pipeline was designed to take about 100,000 barrels of crude a day from the Bakken fields. Without the pipeline it will be increasingly be moved by rail, which is more expensive and less reliable. No doubt, if a major mishap occurs, the environmental industry will be demanding a moratorium on rail movement, further strangling US oil development.

It would be remiss not to point out that the major rail line serving the Bakken fields is BNSF Railway Co, a unit of Berkshire Hathaway, the president of which is Warren Buffet, a long time Obama advisor. According to reports, Bakken pioneer oilman Harold Hamm, who severely criticizes Obama for not recognizing the importance of the Bakken and the pipeline decision, believes Buffet had no role in the pipeline decision. Please see Articles # 1 & 2, and links under “Energy Issues - Canada”, “Oil and Natural Gas - the Future or the Past” and “Administration’s Control of Oil and Gas.”
Number of the Week - 3 years. The Obama administration had 3 years to study the Keystone pipeline, before President Obama rejected it, claiming not enough time to study it. The technology and the few risks of oil pipelines are well established.

President Obama was in office for 4 weeks when he signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Stimulus Bill) on February 17, 2009 (7 days after it was passed by the Senate) with a then estimated cost of $787 Billion, funded by government borrowing.

It has been almost 3 years since the stimulus bill was enacted to keep the unemployment rate below 8 percent. Even with a declining work force, the unemployment rate has been above 8 percent for almost 3 years. The predicted government deficit-funded economic boom did not materialize.

According to the Alyeska pipeline web site it took 3 years, 2 months to construct the Trans Alaska Pipeline System across 800 miles of rugged terrain with mountain passes up to 4,739 feet, 34 major river crossings and nearly 500 stream and other crossings, with temperatures ranging from minus 80 F to 95 F: pipeline, pump stations, roads, terminals, etc (April 29, 1974 to Jun 20, 1977)
alyeska-pipe.com/Pipelinefacts/Pip…
 
lynnvinc said:
Either way it will be going to China, not us, and I’ve read the Native Americans in British Columbia are protesting it there

Burning all the conventional fossil fuels will likely tip earth systems into runaway warming; also burning unconventional sources, such as tar sand and oil shale will almost certainly tip the world into runaway warming, ending all life on earth (see pg 24 of columbia.edu/~jeh1/2008/AGUBjerknes_20081217.pdf )

Even if this is an overestimation of the harm; there will surely be very great harm.

We are killing people on into the future by our actions today.
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Because fossil fuels burned in China don’t release CO2?
 
The Keystone pipeline will be approved in 2014 no matter who is president. It will go south, not west. Obama will approve it if he is in office. This was purely political.
 
Nice article from Michael Goodwin about Obama turning down the pipeline.

“President Obama reveals who he really is – and this picture isn’t pretty”

Snippet:
…The $7 billion pipeline would carry Canadian oil to Gulf Coast ports. Despite three years of study by the State Department, Obama tried to put off the decision until after the election.
But Canada offered to change the route to avoid an aquifer in Nebraska, and unions demanded to know whether he would approve a permit, so Republicans put a 60-day deadline in December’s payroll-tax legislation.
Now we have undeniable proof of the president’s priorities. The man who insisted that “making sure jobs are available is the first thing I think about when I wake up every morning” was just reading empty words from a TelePrompter.
Obama didn’t even have the decency to explain himself, sending out a lame statement that hinted he wasn’t making a decision on the merits, only reacting to the deadline.
The suggestion that he might ultimately approve the project is a shameless bid to deny the obvious. He made his choice because that’s who he is.
Meanwhile, Canada, saying it is “profoundly disappointed,” is turning to Plan B. It likely will build a pipeline to its West Coast and sell the oil to China.
Michael Goodwin is a Fox News contributor and New York Post columnist. To continue reading his column on other topics, including Obama adviser David Axelrod, click here.
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Read more: foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/23/president-obama-reveals-who-really-is-and-this-picture-isnt-pretty/#ixzz1kIjZUW00
 
JimG said:
The Keystone pipeline will be approved in 2014 no matter who is president. It will go south, not west. Obama will approve it if he is in office. This was purely political.
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I appreciate your ability to tell the future.

Will Mr. Obama also lift the “permitorium” in Louisiana, the “moratorium” [or whatever they call it] that is restricting oil development in Alaska, and the prohibition on drilling on Federal lands and offshore?
 
Monte_RCMS said:
I appreciate your ability to tell the future.

Will Mr. Obama also lift the “permitorium” in Louisiana, the “moratorium” [or whatever they call it] that is restricting oil development in Alaska, and the prohibition on drilling on Federal lands and offshore?
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As an EX president, I do not believe he will have the authority to do those things.
😉

Just my optimistic view of the election cycle.
 
vz71 said:
As an EX president, I do not believe he will have the authority to do those things.
😉

Just my optimistic view of the election cycle.
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Quite true. Still, I think that even as a president, he will end up approving the pipeline. Still, I’m not taking bets. I don’t think he hates oil nearly as much as he does religion.
 
RUSH: To Philadelphia, Dennis, great to have you, sir, on the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Rush, I’m a 48-year-old black man who has all my life been Democrat, and I want to say that as a truck driver, I listen to you, and been angry with you over the years, but I still listen to you 'cause I’m in a truck. But I have finally come to see something, and I want to say three years ago I would have never saw myself or thought of myself saying that I agree with you, but I am now dropping my association with Obama, who I voted for a few years ago. I’ll never vote for this guy, I can’t. I’m thinking of dropping even being a Democrat, but it’s all because of you in a lot of ways.

The tipping point for me was Newt Gingrich, what he said a few days ago, something I would have really been very angry with and almost insulted by. **He said that Obama’s decision regarding this pipeline was stunningly stupid. And I could not disagree with that, because this pipeline, in addition to the fact that it’s automatically gonna bring a lot of jobs, without a doubt help the economy, it’s gonna have an immediate impact on the price of things. Impact on the price of gas, which in my industry is enormous. People don’t understand how the price of fuel affects everything that they pay for, from food to any good that they get. But the bottom line is that this man, because of what I can clearly see as politics to support these environmental people, he is willing to destroy this country, destroy the economy, it’s a no-brainer in terms of getting away from dependence on the foreigners, foreign oil. And I just cannot in good conscience continue to hurt my family in the amount that I’m paying for fuel, groceries, and everything else. I cannot in good conscience support this man when this is obviously political because it would have helped this country and the economy. So I want to say that I’m finally seeing the light and I’m done with him.
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RUSH: This is major, Dennis. I mean, the Keystone pipeline, you are one of the biggest 180-degree changes of mind that we’ve ever had on this program. And you just changed your mind three weeks ago after a lifetime of thinking something else.

CALLER: Well, listen, I know he’s gonna do his State of the Union talk tomorrow. I hope to God that whoever’s gonna respond to him will highlight the fact that this is an intentional – well, it’s a slap in the face of every hardworking American in this country who pays bills, who buys groceries. I’m having a hard time in a lot of ways just paying for things, not just to mention my fuel costs, but the bottom line, my groceries and everything else. And if the Republicans, if you guys don’t jump on this thing during your response to the State of the Union, you’re missing a major opportunity, because this will have an immediate impact to benefit this country and everybody else. And like I say, I’m done with these people.

CALLER: Well, I would say to every black American who feels they have to have some loyalty to this man simply because he’s black or because he’s Democrat, we’re shooting ourselves in the foot. We’re killing ourselves. We’re having a hard time as black people anyway –

RUSH: My God, you’re singing from my hymnal! You’re in my choir, Dennis. You are exactly right. This Keystone pipeline, everybody is scratching their heads. This is causing a lot of people to look at Obama in a different way. How did you know that he was acting out of loyalty to his environmentalist buddies? I mean, if you knew that all along but you were willing to tolerate that for a while, what was the last straw about this?

CALLER: Well, it was really a slow thing that I think started with the Obamacare and** the fact that I know that the government doesn’t do anything well. They just don’ts do things well. Everything they stick their hands into, it always becomes more expensive. But this thing here with the Keystone thing, I know how the environmentalists are. I understand the fact that they don’t really want a clean environment. They want us to eat grass and live in trees.**

… but I just know that this guy was doing it more or less out of trying to buy time until the election is done. It’s kind of obvious. It became obvious to me. Nobody with any sense can deny the fact that this is gonna help us – and I’m hurting, to be honest with you. I am really hurting, and the fact that he’s siding with these environmental people over just the whole economy, the whole nation – and black people, my people in particular because we are really poor in a lot of ways compared to white Americans. I used to be kind of bitter toward white America in a lot of ways, but I’m not now. I really thank you for what you’ve done, and this is really transformative. I feel it’s changed my life.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
Koch brothers are invested in Canadian oil. Which happens to be the same type of bitumen oil where Obama/Soros have invested your taxpayer dollars.
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All the more reason (aside from striving to prevent annihilation of life on earth, or a large portion of it) to buy an EV or extended range EV like the Chevy Volt, and get electricity from, say, the wind, so you can drive 90%+ on the wind instead of on gasoline.

We’re now in process of shopping for a Volt, then driving some 95%+ of our driving days (which are under 40 miles) solely on our 100% wind generated electicity.

Since I had to convince my husband, I did a calculation and found that (figuring conservatively) we could make up the price/cost difference (between buying a Volt and a good used car at a much lower price) in about 7 years, after which we’d be saving money relative to buying the used car. Since we only drive about 5,000 miles a year, it wasn’t worth it in the past to buy a Prius or such, so I’ve been waiting some 20 years for a car like the Volt to come out. Even considered doing a EV conversion, like some friends have done.

And I had been willing to sacrifice for the sake of the life of the world, even 20 years back, but we’ve actually saved many $1000s on our other energy/resource efficiency/conservation & alt energy measures ($2000 just on our $6 low flow showerhead with off-on switch). But this time I thought, okay, let’s sacrifice and get that Volt for the sake of the life of the world. And come to find out, we’ll again be saving (not spending as much) $$ after 7 years.

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and its righteousness, and all things will be added unto you. I guess heart-of-hearts I didn’t really believe that, but now I surely do. 🙂 🙂 🙂
 
lynnvinc said:
We’re now in process of shopping for a Volt, then driving some 95%+ of our driving days (which are under 40 miles) solely on our 100% wind generated electicity.

Since I had to convince my husband, I did a calculation and found that (figuring conservatively) we could make up the price/cost difference (between buying a Volt and a good used car at a much lower price) in about 7 years, after which we’d be saving money relative to buying the used car.
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Do you really believe th volt will be running properly after 7 years?
Won’t the batteries need to be replaced in that time?
 
vz71 said:
Do you really believe th volt will be running properly after 7 years?
Won’t the batteries need to be replaced in that time?
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Lithium batteries have “issues”.

I was reading some aircraft accident reports. So far two (2) 747’s have caught fire in mid-air because lithium batteries they were carrying as cargo caught fire. Both planes crashed.

AND Fed Ex. [you know them, right] they had a nasty fire at one of their airport sorting facilities when a small package of lithium batteries caught fire. The shipper was MIT [yuup, THAT MIT] and MIT got fined for shipping hazardous cargo.
 
lynnvinc said:
We’re now in process of shopping for a Volt, then driving some 95%+ of our driving days (which are under 40 miles) solely on our 100% wind generated electicity.

Since I had to convince my husband, I did a calculation and found that (figuring conservatively) we could make up the price/cost difference (between buying a Volt and a good used car at a much lower price) in about 7 years, after which we’d be saving money relative to buying the used car. Since we only drive about 5,000 miles a year, it wasn’t worth it in the past to buy a Prius or such, so I’ve been waiting some 20 years for a car like the Volt to come out. Even considered doing a EV conversion, like some friends have done.
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I’m sure you could still find one of these laying around somewhere, I believe the small museum in Ardmore, OK. has one actually:

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/i...nSqp4OGBHlzfMFC-WHjP8G784LK8kkxm9AtuIeNGGkyII
 
bbarrick8383 said:
I’m sure you could still find one of these laying around somewhere, I believe the small museum in Ardmore, OK. has one actually:

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/i...nSqp4OGBHlzfMFC-WHjP8G784LK8kkxm9AtuIeNGGkyII
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I had borrowed a Prius for a while and it was a fun ride.

But when I learned that it could not be plugged in, I was “devastated”.

“kinda stupid” … to have that battery thing but no cord.

They have this very complex regenerative braking system which is really cool. Not really new technology. But cool.

But no cord.

After making a lot of inquiries, it turns out the battery is only good for about eight (8) miles. It’s just intended as a “boost” on acceleration, and to recapture the “heat energy” from braking.

That’s an awful lot of money just for that little bit of “saving”.

Still, there are a lot of trips you make to the store or whatever and having a plug and a cord would be worthwhile.

NOPE.

There are a few after market Lithium battery conversion kits.

$15,000.

40 miles or so of battery use.

As good as the “Volt”, but cheaper.

Just have an emergency plan in case the battery decides to explode.

Ejection seats, maybe.
 
Some folks buying a Prius a Volt the Snug Warnings are sounding. Oil destroying life on earth that gets a BS flag prove it.
 
Seems to me that one of the states allows golf carts to be used on streets.

Lots of “issues”, obviously.

But, cheaper than a Prius or a Volt … fine for grocery store trips. Or church.
 
bellasbane said:
“A portion of the 1,700-mile pipeline would pass through Nebraska’s Sandhills region and the massive Ogallala aquifer, which supplies water to eight states.”
abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-mulls-route-canada-oil-pipeline-14915327#.TryhvfRVfkU

A pipeline spill into the Ogallala aquifer would be disastrous. The current route would put the health of millions of men, women and children at risk. After what happened in the Yellowstone River, I can understand the need to find an alternative route. You can’t risk poisoning people.
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A few days ago, I saw a map of the various pipelines that pass through this area and can’t believe that amount of pipe that is currently buried not only in the aquifer but throughout the midwest. By far the most amazing area for pipelines is the state of Illinois. To say that one is more dangerous that any of the others already in place shows that people really don’t have a grasp of what is in place right now.

The piplines that are in place in Illinois pump natural gas, oil, and gasoline products over the entire countryside.

Safety with progress should be the by-word. You make it the safest you can, update as necessary, and then trust in the knowledge that God has given you.

Obama is heaven bent on turning America into a 3rd world nation. There is an old saying about someone who couldn’t be trusted “I wouldn’t vote for him for dogcatcher in Del Rio, Tx” (with appropriate apoligies to Del Rio and dogcatchers everywhere).
 
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