Obama and Romney Hit Final Stretch Part 3

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My experience with Mormons is very positive. What else can I say? Mitt’s Mormon beliefs have no effect upon my vote. I will pull the (R) lever on election day.
 
Detroit gave out a tax break to the studio that made the movie Gran Torino but any research shows that it was written by a resident in the Twin Cities and about the Twin Cities, Minneapolis and St. Paul.

Great movie with the exceptions of the cursing; Kowalski is the big hero of the story, one has to wonder if truth inspired this movie. We see bullies in life and sometimes we see the White Knight ride in and be the hero.

Of course, that story is about the Hmong, Hmong women for the record through their culture and history get practically NO abortions whatsoever, the Hmong additionally are just a gift from God,

Walt Kowalski played by Clint Eastwood in the end gives no better example of what it is to be our brother’s keeper.
Liked your take here. I first read about the Hmong in the second book of the non-fiction trilogy of the late Dr. Tom Dooley, “The Night They Burned the Mountain.”

In that second book Dr. Dooley (still in his 20s at the time) brought a team of American doctors to northern Laos (then free) near the Red Chinese border in the 1950s. The Hmong were among the peoples his group, later called MEDICO served.

I liked Gran Torino too for its gripping plot which I couldn’t predict and some rememberable vignettes. It had its drawbacks in its deliberately crossing the lines needlessly (IMO) – but that might make it a candidate to be an even better TV movie eventually.

Breakheart Ridge cleaned up well … after immersing its audience in a cavalcade of creative obscenities for two hours on the big screen uncut. The TV version gave one the same crusty characters without the swearing and the flick improved.

Don’t think the endorsement of Eastwood’s “Walt Kowalski” exDetroit carmaker is helping Romney in Michigan any more than a Ted Nugent Concert or huntin’ trip through the Upper Peninsula would; but it’s part of the show we get with our elelctions sometimes.
 
The Penn poll is not new according to the update at the link you provided.

I would like to see updates polls for FL, OH, VA, WI, and PA if you can track them down. You are pretty good at doing that.

Thanks!
 
It’s gotten close, Hannity is one of the beset to listen to.

Hannity respects totally the rules of decorum. Let’s hope everyone does.
 
rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/weekly_updates/what_they_told_us_reviewing_last_week_s_key_polls2

A summary update of the current state of national and local polling via Rasmussen, and what it means as of Sat morning, Nov 3.
Rasmussen’s take on Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin:

“[W]what’s our latest polling in those eight states? Obama is ahead by two points in Nevada. Romney leads by one in Iowa, two in Florida and New Hampshire and three in Colorado and Virginia. The candidates are tied in Ohio and Wisconsin. But in every case those findings are within the margin of error.”
 
Rasmussen’s take on Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin:

“[W]what’s our latest polling in those eight states? Obama is ahead by two points in Nevada. Romney leads by one in Iowa, two in Florida and New Hampshire and three in Colorado and Virginia. The candidates are tied in Ohio and Wisconsin. But in every case those findings are within the margin of error.”
In other words, it is brutally close. I wish we still lived in VA right now instead of TX so that our votes would carry a bit more weight. Vote early and often my friend (jk).
 
You are kidding, right?

John
oldcelt, I have to agree with you. While I’m conservative, I give Sean Hannity the same viewing time I give Chris Matthews: none. I find Matthews to be highly intelligent, just overly biased. Sadly, there is no network providing unbiased coverage of the election.
 
oldcelt, I have to agree with you. While I’m conservative, I give Sean Hannity the same viewing time I give Chris Matthews: none. I find Matthews to be highly intelligent, just overly biased. Sadly, there is no network providing unbiased coverage of the election.
Agreed, Matthews fawns, and fumes and actually becomes totally irrational. If O’Reilly would shut up and let others talk he actually be one of the better…but Hannity…awwwww

John
 
Agreed, Matthews fawns, and fumes and actually becomes totally irrational. If O’Reilly would shut up and let others talk he actually be one of the better…but Hannity…awwwww

John
Perhaps Brit Hume and Brian Williams can get together and present a balanced show covering election issues. Sadly, it will never happen.

And then we have this:

*Bill Maher on HBO’s Real Time Friday might have said one of the most disgraceful things uttered during the 2012 campaign season. “If you’re thinking about voting for Mitt Romney, I would like to make this one plea: black people know who you are and they will come after you”

newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/11/03/maher-if-you-vote-romney-black-people-know-who-you-are-and-will-come#ixzz2BAabir5v*
 
Abyssinia posted links to to pro-Romney polls:

New poll shows Romney up by 4 in Pennsylvania
Miami Herald FL Poll: Romney 51%-Obama 45%


Yet today we have this from the Wall Street Journal:

The NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist College survey of likely voters put Obama ahead of Romney in Ohio, 51 percent to 45 percent, and in Florida, 49 percent to 47 percent.

I’m losing faith in polling (faulty sampling, methodology, bias). I want Romney to win, but I refuse to live in despair or elation based on disparate polling results. Personally, I believe Ohio is out of Romney’s grasp by the narrowest of margins. I also believe Hurricane Sandy stalled Romney’s momentum due to Obama’s perceived handling of the crisis. Finally, I believe liberal media bias is giving Obama a decisive advantage among the American electorate. Is the election over? No. Can Romney surprise us with a Reaganesque finish on Tuesday? Yes. Nonetheless, I am bracing for the real possibility that Obama will retain the Oval Office. 😦 :mad:
Sadly,I have to agree with you.😦
 
Sadly,I have to agree with you.😦
I cannot simply wish Romney to victory. Electoral college math makes it unbelievably difficult for Mitt to win a close election. My only hope is that the pollsters, media and pundits are incredibly wrong in evaluating the strength of the Romney surge following Debate #1. My lawn sign anecdotes lead me to believe there is the ever so slight possibility that Romney may be victorious on election day.
 
In other words, it is brutally close. I wish we still lived in VA right now instead of TX so that our votes would carry a bit more weight. Vote early and often my friend (jk).
Lots of shifts can occur in the final weekend. Why I don’t know, but it often happens. Likely because people are away from the TV and media focus. Any debate surge for Romney is gone, and any Sandy-bump from Obama is gone. SIngle day polls on monday (not rolling averages) will likely pain a closer picture.

Most people see OH, WI, CO, NH, and Iowa as the major lynch pins.

Polling in OH is tight, but early voting relative to 2008 favors Romney big time. So it comes down to the voting numbers on election day. If Romney maintains the traditional Republican lead on ED, he wins Ohio. If Obama makes back the gains he lost in early voting, he wins.

If Romney loses Ohio, he has to win WI and Iowa or Colorado.

It is too close to call, but remember that in places like 538 and intrade, the odds of winning are based on the fact that Obama has more tossups in play that he won in 2008. He just has to maintain some of them, while Romney has to flip them. Hence, the odds go up for Obama, since all of them were blue already.

This is to say nothing of PA, where no one seems to know for sure what the story is.

Michael Barone has Romney winning PA:

hotair.com/archives/2012/11/02/michael-barones-prediction-romney-315-obama-223/

He also believed Obama would win in 2012, as did Rove, by a large margin. They are pretty honest in there assessments.

he thing that is odd in these predictions is that the conservative leaning predictors show reasons why they believe a state is going one way or another, looking at who has voted already, registration numbers since 2008, and other factors. I don’t see any liberal leaners doing the same; most of their predictions rely on poll averages (which on the surface don’t tell you enough about actual trends within the state), or percentages like Nate Silver (which also neglect to reflect the internals of the state and what is currently occurring).

Turnout as always will be key - whoever can get their people out will win. If Romney wins Ohio, as early voting trends indicate, he’ll win, barring a surprise loss of FL or VA. If he loses, the other states become keys.

Romney leads independents big time, and has the early voting edge, as well as having cut into Obama’s female vote big time. The questions is, will it be enough?
 
I’m desperately praying that Obama loses. If he wins, I really don’t want to see what he’ll do to the First Amendment, the Church, and the country at large.
 
I’m desperately praying that Obama loses. If he wins, I really don’t want to see what he’ll do to the First Amendment, the Church, and the country at large.
Bera in mind, he won;t have the House, even if he wins. If Romney wins, he’ll have an easier time getting things done. If Republicans had controlled the House in 09, we wouldn’t have Obamacare.

I am hopeful Romney wins, but if he loses, I wouldn’t expect much progress on Obama’s initiatives in the first two years. These parties are simply polar opposites on too many things. Unless Obama is serious about spending cuts, I’d expect gridlock. That isn’t going to help the unemployment rate or debt. And Obamacare’s major provisions and impact hit in 13 and 14. As a small business owner myself, and member of a number of SB consortiums, I don’t see any hiring occurring with those looming. There is simply too much risk. I can sit on my employee base for a decade if need be, and many businesses do. No risk Small gains are better than high risk/reward losses. I’ll just wait until the climate is better for hiring, which may be four more years.

If Obama wins, I see him being hand-cuffed domestically, which will thwart anything to aggregious to conservatives, but I don;t see the business climate changing in a way to help the general population. Conservatives may be pleased, but the average joe will not see much improvement. Of course, letting Obama run wild would likely make things worse tfor the average joe in my opinion, so status quo is likely the best outcome. Unemployment will remain unchanged.

Also look for a stock purge in december and the market tanking, in an effort to avoid cap gains hikes that are coming under Obama.

If Romney wins, I frankly see the future as less predictable.
 
Bera in mind, he won;t have the House, even if he wins. If Romney wins, he’ll have an easier time getting things done. If Republicans had controlled the House in 09, we wouldn’t have Obamacare.

I am hopeful Romney wins, but if he loses, I wouldn’t expect much progress on Obama’s initiatives in the first two years. These parties are simply polar opposites on too many things. Unless Obama is serious about spending cuts, I’d expect gridlock. That isn’t going to help the unemployment rate or debt. And Obamacare’s major provisions and impact hit in 13 and 14. As a small business owner myself, and member of a number of SB consortiums, I don’t see any hiring occurring with those looming. There is simply too much risk. I can sit on my employee base for a decade if need be, and many businesses do. No risk Small gains are better than high risk/reward losses. I’ll just wait until the climate is better for hiring, which may be four more years.

If Obama wins, I see him being hand-cuffed domestically, which will thwart anything to aggregious to conservatives, but I don;t see the business climate changing in a way to help the general population. Conservatives may be pleased, but the average joe will not see much improvement. Of course, letting Obama run wild would likely make things worse tfor the average joe in my opinion, so status quo is likely the best outcome. Unemployment will remain unchanged.

Also look for a stock purge in december and the market tanking, in an effort to avoid cap gains hikes that are coming under Obama.

If Romney wins, I frankly see the future as less predictable.
Don’t forget about the possible Supreme Court appointments looming if Obama wins. You can welcome in the new and ‘evolving U.S. Constitution’. The First and Tenth Amendments will be whittled down to meaningless extraneous verbiage.
 
Bera in mind, he won;t have the House, even if he wins. If Romney wins, he’ll have an easier time getting things done. If Republicans had controlled the House in 09, we wouldn’t have Obamacare.
Actually, this will be one of the positives if Obama wins. When George Bush won and had control of the house and senate we got into two wars that we didn’t pay for, socialized medicine and a housing bubble. Gridlock has a lot to recommend it.
 
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