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epan
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Most of the military is very pro republican. It seems to make no difference who the candidate is. Most of them actually preferred Bush over Kerry, even with Mr. Bush’s history of avoiding his duty. Of course, Kerry later started flip flopping as Romney is now, and killed his own chances. But it was interesting in the early part of the race to see the military turning against a decorated combat veteran, and endorsing someone who might have been charged with desertion during wartime, if not for his family connections.
When one considers how much more effective Mr. Obama has been in his use of military resources, you will still find military folks who view Mr. Bush as a better commander in chief, even when you remind them that he appointed and continued to support secretary Rumsfeld, who is generally agreed to have been viewed as incompetent during his tenure. He was known as the secretary with the 9,000 mile long screwdriver, which is why he had such a hard time finding commanders to serve under him.
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gilliam
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Lots of reasons why someone in the military would not vote for the current administration:
- reduction in force (they are being laid off)
- freezing of promotions (they are not getting increases in pay)
- smaller force being asked to do more things (they are having to work longer and away from home more)
- benefits being reduced
- retirement benefits being reduced
- there are a lot of proposed further reductions being considered
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didymus
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From the NY Times, The Vanishing Battleground.
And what if in four or eight years the number of swing states dwindles further? What happens when candidates concentrate they resources on just seven states and ignore the rest of the Union?
I wouldn’t go as far as “disenfranchising” but being in solid-blue NY my presidential vote counts for nothing.
And what if in four or eight years the number of swing states dwindles further? What happens when candidates concentrate they resources on just seven states and ignore the rest of the Union?
But folks who stay home are also missing Congressional, state and local races so everyone loses out.
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exoflare
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I know I’m not.
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tskrobacz
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Counter Terrorism is itself Terrorism…why would they walk away from the promised $2T in additional US Terrorism budget proposed by the Romney camp?
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epan
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True. But if you listen to the candidates, Mr. Romney is proposing much deeper cuts out of one side of his mouth, while promising not to cut mil out of the other. Once again, he contradicts himself, which is why his odds are not any better in Virginia and DC. The take away is that he doesn’t know what he intends to do, other than reduce marginal tax rates for the wealthy, his only consistent position. I believe that as president he will be a conservative jimmy carter, whom I understand the military may have disliked more than any other modern president, precisely because he acted like Mr Romney is action now, throughout his presidency. My grandfather was in the pentagon, amped dealt with the president directly at times. His stories are that carter would make a decision. Orders would come down. Wheels would start turning. Then the orders would change. Over and over.
I hope that if he gets in, Mr Romney will discover some backbone, to stick with his convictions, whatever those are. He hasn’t really told us what they are, with any consistency, unfortunately.
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estesbob
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BDS is alive and well 4 years after he left office
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Faithdancer
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Yes, and any way you slice it, the fact that a sitting president is in such a tight race for re-election proves one thing- many Americans don’t feel that his administration has been very successful in his first term, Many Republicans voted for Obama in 2008, but they don’t appear to be on his bandwagon anymore.
Personally, living in California, I am free to vote for neither of the two dominant parties, and to vote my conscience. Go Virgil Goode!
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gilliam
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In the New Testament, caring for the poor in our communities was left up to the Christian community (what we call the Church.). In the old Testament you had a Theocratic kingdom, I don’t think that is what we want in the US.
It is interesting to read in Caritas in Veritate – “Charity in Truth” (2009), that the relation of governments to society has grown more complex: “
meltzerboy
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Or perhaps by Marco Rubio, a rising star in the Republican Party. But Jeb Bush running against Hillary Clinton would be more fun.
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epan
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If you admire the achievements of the Bush presidency, ranging from his foreign affairs and military policies, to his economic performance, to his attack on civil rights… All a matter of history now. Then I suspect that you might think again about exactly who is deranged when they consider recent history.
He is actually the only recent president who was not asked to the national convention. Even his party is ashamed of him.
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estesbob
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I do He will go down in History as a good, almost great President. The assertion his party is ashamed of him is another sympton of BDS. Bush made it clear whenheleft the Presidency he was done wtith politics -including conventions. I voted for him 4 timesand would do so again if I had the opportunity
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Mar044
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follow the laws of god and not mean, I urge people to read the new testament again, it’s works reflect the need to ignore whos side god is on when it comes to politics and focus on the work gods wants.
this notion of god blessing nations and not others is foolish, men are equal, and for the most part politicians are out for self interest, let alone caring what you want. your foolish if you think voting for obama or romney matters. They will just tell you what you want to hear.
some days I feel sorry for others who instead of caring about what jesus teaches, debate why romeny should win and how we should ignore his faith yet…debate obamas faith as the argument…
do you think jesus cared who won the Governor seat of Jerusalem…
this notion of god blessing nations and not others is foolish, men are equal, and for the most part politicians are out for self interest, let alone caring what you want. your foolish if you think voting for obama or romney matters. They will just tell you what you want to hear.
some days I feel sorry for others who instead of caring about what jesus teaches, debate why romeny should win and how we should ignore his faith yet…debate obamas faith as the argument…
do you think jesus cared who won the Governor seat of Jerusalem…
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TexCatholic4JMJ
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George W. Bush did not “avoid” his duty. He was a pilot on an aircraft that was going to be
taken out of service. The next aircraft he would have flown required specialized and
expensive training as well as a lot of time. Since he had only months left on his tour, he
was put on leave. It was not his doing.
On the other hand, Kerry lied about the details of his service.
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TexCatholic4JMJ
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Bush was/is a very honorable man. There are many things he did “out of the limelight”.
(only known because of those he honored, helped, consoled. They shared these stories
of a very compassionate man.)
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stinkcat_14
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I think that reasonable people can disagree as to whether Bush was a good president or not. For example, he did some things that were downright indefensible. For example, starting a war and not paying for it is about as immoral as you can get. It would be like grandparents taking a luxury cruise and sending the bill to their grandchildren. The grandchildren get stuck with the bill and receive no benefits.
Second, he further socialized medicine in this country by signing Medicare part D. Nobody can make a reasonable argument as to why it is the federal government’s responsibility to provide prescription drugs to people who have the ability to pay for it themselves.
Of course, he never cut spending either.
So tell me, what good was it that George Bush did?
And as you know, I am no supporter of Obama, so just because Obama is worse does not make Bush good.
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epan
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She would chew him up and spit him out in a debate. She lacks the charisma of her husband, but her intellect rivals his, and she has the experience and connections to do the job.
JB has charisma, and his family has the connections. He lacks the experience, and he does not rival her intellect.
It would be an interesting contest.
Many voters don’t stop to consider that being an effective statesman has a lot to do with connections with people. Mr Clinton excelled in forming new relationships. Mrs Clinton has them in place now. This is why queen Elizabeth is seen as so valuable to British statecraft. She has known, and knows every important leader in the world. She quietly goes about her job of keeping in touch with them to advance British interests, as prime ministers come and go.
This is one reason for keeping an incumbent president in office for a second term, unless there is a reason not to.
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