Obama and Romney Hit Final Stretch Part 3

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_Abyssinia said:
IDo you have an issue with the word democrat party or democrat to describe a member of the party?
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Democrat is the noun, and is properly used to describe a member of the Party. Democratic is the adjective, used as in Democratic Party. The term Republican is different as it can be used both as an adjective and noun.

I perceive use of Democrat Party as either ignorance or as an insult. Robert Bay has asked us to show charity to one another, and not using terms that can be perceived as insulting is part of this charity IMO.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Democrat is the noun, and is properly used to describe a member of the Party. Democratic is the adjective, used as in Democratic Party. The term Republican is different as it can be used both as an adjective and noun.

I perceive use of Democrat Party as either ignorance or as an insult. Robert Bay has asked us to show charity to one another, and not using terms that can be perceived as insulting is part of this charity IMO.
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Indeed. It is the most simple of courtesy to use proper terminology.

Is this too much to ask? Seriously? Really?

Stop being coy Aby.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Democrat is the noun, and is properly used to describe a member of the Party. Democratic is the adjective, used as in Democratic Party. The term Republican is different as it can be used both as an adjective and noun.

I perceive use of Democrat Party as either ignorance or as an insult. Robert Bay has asked us to show charity to one another, and not using terms that can be perceived as insulting is part of this charity IMO.
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I guess you guys don’t want to know what I call Democrats or the Democratic Party when I’m off-line! 🙂
 
Lawyer … Republican …Catholic … White Male … Opus Dei. I guess I’ve raised a few eyebrows on occasion. Each category draws different reactions depending upon my location. So, call me whatever you like! 🙂
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Democrat is the noun, and is properly used to describe a member of the Party. Democratic is the adjective, used as in Democratic Party. The term Republican is different as it can be used both as an adjective and noun.

I perceive use of Democrat Party as either ignorance or as an insult. Robert Bay has asked us to show charity to one another, and not using terms that can be perceived as insulting is part of this charity IMO.
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Linguistics change and using democrat as an adjective could be an example of this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)#Grammar
The use of nouns as adjectives is part of a broader linguistic trend, according to language expert Ruth Walker, who claims, “We’re losing our inflections—the special endings we use to distinguish between adjectives and nouns, for instance. There’s a tendency to modify a noun with another noun rather than an adjective. Some may speak of “the Ukraine election” rather than ‘the Ukrainian election’ or ‘the election in Ukraine,’ for instance. It’s ‘the Iraq war’ rather than ‘the Iraqi war,’ to give another example”
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ringil said:
Obama gains edge in campaign’s final days

people-press.org/2012/11/04/obama-gains-edge-in-campaigns-final-days/
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breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/04/pew-romney-holds-turnout-edge-ahead-of-vote
Pew’s head-to-head number has Obama leading Romney by 3 points, 48-45. Of course, this shows Obama underperforming, as Democrats have a 4 point edge in the sample. If Democrats only have a 5 point edge among all registered voters, its hard to see how the actual voting electorate will give Democrats a 4 point edge, given the higher propensity of Republicans to vote.
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Oddly, Pew takes the 4% undecideds and splits them evenly between the two candidates. This allows the to broadcast a 50-47 Obama lead, hitting the critical 50% threshold that has eluded Obama in most polling this year. It is highly unlikely, though, that undecideds break evenly.
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Romney maintains a 3 point lead among Independents, which couple with stronger GOP turnout could provide the necessary edge on election day. Indeed, Republicans hold significant advantages on enthusiasm. They have an 8 point advantage among voters who have “thought a lot about the election,” 87% to 79%. The GOP has a 7 point advantage among likely voters following the campaign closely, 61% to 54%. And among those definitely planning to vote, the GOP has a 6 point edge. 92% of Romney supporters say they are definitely voting, against 86% of Obama supporters.
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Obama has tried to make up their enthusiasm deficit by focusing considerable resources on early voting. But, Obama’s lead among early voters in this poll is just 2 points, 48-46. In 2008, Obama had a massive edge in early voting.
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Perhaps most interesting is that Romney leads by 2 points among Catholics, 49-47. Obama won Catholics by 9 points in 2008. The 11-point swing away from him may be the decisive factor in Upper Midwest states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio. It may also give Romney an advantage in Pennsylvania.
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If Pew’s findings hold through Tuesday and Romney has the turnout edge, he is well on his way to victory.
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Independents Romney leads 44 to Obama 41. Pew says there will be 86% registered voter turn out. Polls on registered benefit usually benefit the democrat candidate, why not a poll on likely voters which are more accurate? There was 78% turn out in 2008. Sample is democrat plus 4 when their last poll used democrat plus 1
 
Pork_Roll said:
I think there is a problem of always comparing things to the worst rather than what is ideal. Romney is way better than Obama, but so is Bill/Hilary Clinton. I’d rather vote for who is best than to mindlessly follow the exaggerations and half-truths of the GOP and democrats about the other guy. But that is me. Of course voting for the lesser of evils is reasonable, but we need to be sure that our faith isn’t being “leavened” by the GOP and democrat agenda but rather our Catholic faith leavens the parties and brings both parties to the truth. Romney isn’t close enough to the ideal to warrant my support.

I’m less concerned about the HHS mandate than I am about catholic institutions and families effectively promulgating the faith.
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Being an idealist who never affects any real change isn’t particularly helpful to the country.
 
Tampa_Dave said:
If I just read your post, I would be shaking in my boots. Coupled with the comments in Abyssinia’s post on the previous page, However, I’m taking it with a grain of salt. Several numbers in Pew’s latest poll are helpful to Romney. Tuesday will be the tolling of the bell …
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True true.

I’m getting some nice Belgian beer for Tuesday night and just watching this thing play itself out. . . . . .
 
Tampa_Dave said:
Thanks, Abyssinia! I can use any arguments, statistics or words of encouragement at this point.
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😃

Bill Clinton to campaign tomorrow at 4 stops in PA. If that does not tell everybody PA is a toss up I do not know what does
 
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