Obama and Romney Hit Final Stretch Part 3

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It appears that President Obama is likely to go into Election Day with a very modest lead in the average of national polls.
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As of this writing, on Sunday evening, Mr. Obama led by an average of 1.3 percentage points across 12 national polls that had been published over the course of the prior 24 hours. The range was quite tight, running from a tied race in the polls issued by Rasmussen Reports, CNN and Politico, to a three-point lead in three other surveys.
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According to the statistician Nate Silver Obama has an 85.5% chance of winning the election.
 
Romney:
It’s not my job to worry about the poor.
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Matthew 25:34-40:
Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me. . . Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.
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Deuteronomy 15:11:
There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land.
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Cliff_Jumper said:
Yes he is. Though I do wonder if he is just touting the party line. At any rate, I am pretty certain I will write him in. May the Lord forgive me if it is sinful :gopray:
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I’m not quite joining you … but you may get a boot out of this.

youtube.com/watch?v=U7pv7sO5Gng GAME ON ! :dancing:

I like the middle aged lady who plays the synthesizer in the background. 🙂

Proof positive that G-rated fun is possible! 👍

(As long as it’s not the DECIDING vote … the wrong way … I’m glad RS will get ONE on election day!)
 
ringil said:
True true.

I’m getting some nice Belgian beer for Tuesday night and just watching this thing play itself out. . . . . .
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ishii said:
Now you’re starting to make sense.

Ishii
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I agree!

Ringil - what Belgian will you be drinking? I may buy one and join you in bipartisan solidarity. If not, I may have a Belgian-style brew from my Québécois selections…either a Terrible or Maudite.
 
Cliff_Jumper said:
Thank you for the links _Abyssinia. Very interesting. It is good to know that his change was not just during an election. Although it still bothers me that he is for abortion in cases of rape/incest/ mother’s health. Seeing as how the mother’s health has been used as a wide catch-all for many reasons for abortion I wonder how lenient Romney will be with this.
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Hello Cliff Jumper. I appreciate the questions you are posing and would only add the following: Romney, as president, doesn’t have any say in whether a law against abortion would allow for exceptions for rape or incest. It would be nice if Romney was 100% in line with Catholic teaching, but he is pro-life where it counts: As president, Mitt Romney could help the pro-life cause by picking supreme court justices who would be likely to overturn Roe V Wade - which prevents states from passing laws that would outlaw or severely restrict abortions. He picked pro-life Catholic Paul Ryan as his running mate, and Robert Bork as judicial advisor. He can also do things around the margins - rescind the Mexico City policy, and he can also speak out in favor of the sanctity of life.

The other thing to consider other than Romney’s stance on abortion is Obama’s: he is unapologetically pro-abortion rights and is arguably the most pro-abortion rights president we’ve ever had. He didn’t vote against outlawing partial birth abortion! That alone should be reason enough to vote effectively to ensure that he doesn’t have a chance to shape the supreme court which decides so much of all this. (by “effectively” I mean voting for the most pro-life candidate who has the best chance to defeat Obama. A write-in of course, has no chance).
Cliff_Jumper said:
. I can find clear evidence on these issues for Santorum and Keyes. The articles you attached helped me a lot. Thank you.
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Lastly, neither Santorum nor Keyes are running this time. And while you might live in a solid Romney state, you might consider this: the margin of victory of a candidate affects their mandate to govern. If they only win by a little, then there is less pressure on the opposition to work with the new president. On the other hand, if Romney gets, say, 54% of the popular vote, there would be more pressure on senators, for example, to work with the president. (keep in mind, quite a few Democrat senators are up for re-election in 2014 and might be more inclined to work with Romney if they think the country overall supports Romney). This is important because the senate has to approve any supreme court justice nomination. If you want to know how a nominee fares when Democrats are strong and bold then look no further than David Souter and Anthony Kennedy. Both justices voted to uphold Roe V Wade. If Romney has a Republican majority in the senate and/or a few Democrats who are willing to consider his judicial picks, then we might well finally see Roe V Wade overturned. That would be a huge pro-life victory.

Ishii
 
rlg94086 said:
I agree!

Ringil - what Belgian will you be drinking? I may buy one and join you in bipartisan solidarity. If not, I may have a Belgian-style brew from my Québécois selections…either a Terrible or Maudite.
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Probably some kind of doubel or quadruple.

Maybe Pirat or Goudendaag. Likely I will pick up a 11.2 oz. of Westmalle. I like them a bit malty, especially with the cooler temperatures.
 
Pork_Roll said:
The Constitution Party had Chuck Baldwin run in 2008. How bad can they be? You know Charles Obadiah “Chuck” Baldwin–an American politician and founder-pastor of Crossroad Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida.
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I could do without a Protestant pastor for a President. . . . ugh . .
 
ringil said:
Probably some kind of doubel or quadruple.

Maybe Pirat or Goudendaag. Likely I will pick up a 11.2 oz. of Westmalle. I like them a bit malty, especially with the cooler temperatures.
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Off topic, I realize, but I must find a bottle of Westmalle:

"*Nose
Orange juice, lemon, grassy noble hops, husky grains and some bubblegum.

Taste
Pretty spicy! Much more than what was detected in the nose. Hay and coriander along with pinches of clove, peppercorn and lemon zest. Orange juice, honeydew melon, barnyard and husky grains. Pilsner malts, earth, and dried grass. Touches of bubblegum.

Mouthfeel
Light-medium bodied, crisp, spicy, dry and warming.

Overall
Very earthy and spicy. Very easy drinking at 9.5%. Very tasty stuff!*"

beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/208/646

Ishii
 
ishii said:
Off topic, I realize, but I must find a bottle of Westmalle:

"*Nose
Orange juice, lemon, grassy noble hops, husky grains and some bubblegum.

Taste
Pretty spicy! Much more than what was detected in the nose. Hay and coriander along with pinches of clove, peppercorn and lemon zest. Orange juice, honeydew melon, barnyard and husky grains. Pilsner malts, earth, and dried grass. Touches of bubblegum.

Mouthfeel
Light-medium bodied, crisp, spicy, dry and warming.

Overall
Very earthy and spicy. Very easy drinking at 9.5%. Very tasty stuff!*"

beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/208/646

Ishii
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I have had all of the authentic Trappist beers except the elusive Westvleteren. . . . . . sigh. . . .

You can only purchase it in person from the brewery in Belgium… . . .

😦

One day. . . . one day. . . . .
 
ringil said:
Probably some kind of doubel or quadruple.

Maybe Pirat or Goudendaag. Likely I will pick up a 11.2 oz. of Westmalle. I like them a bit malty, especially with the cooler temperatures.
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How are we going to imbibe in solidarity with so many choices? We better narrow it down. I’ve not tried any of those, but 11.2 oz seems awfully small. Can’t we go with a 750ml? I prefer something fairly strong…preferably in the 9%+ range. If you haven’t had a Terrible, I highly recommend it…but it is in the $10 range, price-wise, but I will defer to your choice. For true Belgians, I usually do Chimay Grand Reserve (blue label), but I’m open to trying something new.
 
Oh, and there is a brand new authentic Trappist brewery- just began selling to the public this year. I haven’t had their’s either.
 
ishii said:
Off topic, I realize, but I must find a bottle of Westmalle:

"*Nose
Orange juice, lemon, grassy noble hops, husky grains and some bubblegum.

Taste
Pretty spicy! Much more than what was detected in the nose. Hay and coriander along with pinches of clove, peppercorn and lemon zest. Orange juice, honeydew melon, barnyard and husky grains. Pilsner malts, earth, and dried grass. Touches of bubblegum.

Mouthfeel
Light-medium bodied, crisp, spicy, dry and warming.

Overall
Very earthy and spicy. Very easy drinking at 9.5%. Very tasty stuff!*"

beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/208/646

Ishii
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Bubblegum?!! What a horrific description for an ale. I don’t think I want to drink bubblegum…though I like Trappist ales.
 
ringil said:
Oh, and there is a brand new authentic Trappist brewery- just began selling to the public this year. I haven’t had their’s either.
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:hmmm: It could be a good choice to try something none of us have had. On the other hand, none of us may like it. 😛
 
rlg94086 said:
Bubblegum?!! What a horrific description for an ale. I don’t think I want to drink bubblegum…though I like Trappist ales.
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Not exactly what I’d consider real beer taste, but there are all kinds of different tastes with Belgian ales. I especially like the orange/coriander/clove notes. Sometimes even banana. They can get quite complex - just like the politics on these forums…🙂
 
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