Neither. The White River is considered a “navigable river”, and so they wanted control over the entire watershed feeding into that river, declaring nearly ever creek and stream “navigable”. Among other things, “navigable streams” are traversible by the public, regardless of what the landowners think about it. Of course, the fact that a lot of the feeder streams could only be waded didn’t matter.What was the issue? Mercury? Nutrients?
Uh… no.1degree C = 33.8 degrees F
a temperature of 0 C is 32 FIs this the earlier graph AGW proponents used which discounted the existence of the medieval warming period?So in the last 130 years the earth has warmed about one degree with the end of the Little Ice Age?
Are you trying to help or hurt your claims of global warming?
I guess they’d be concerned about fecal bacteria going downstream.Neither. The White River is considered a “navigable river”, and so they wanted control over the entire watershed feeding into that river, declaring nearly ever creek and stream “navigable”. Among other things, “navigable streams” are traversible by the public, regardless of what the landowners think about it. Of course, the fact that a lot of the feeder streams could only be waded didn’t matter.
It’s a picturesque watershed. Lots of tourism in the area. I don’t think there was anything more to it than that, though they might have found a beer can or two somewhere.
Well, and the Corps has never liked the idea of ranchers allowing cattle to drink from streams.
Perhaps so, but are they unaware that wild animals also take dumps? One thing they wanted to do was to remove land use for agricultural purposes, including grazing, 100 feet back from a stream. That would encourage not only proliferation of wild animals in the zone, but would encourage flotsam accumulation. One might remember that herds of millions of buffalo once crossed those same lands and drank at those same streams.I guess they’d be concerned about fecal bacteria going downstream.
Maybe tourists swim downstream.
I recall reading that, while indeed the early Industrial Revolution brought “dark, satanic mills”, it also significantly improved the health of the populace generally because, e.g., cheap, mass-produced cotton clothing could be easily washed, industrial soaps and other cleaners could be utilized, disinfectants of all kind were devised and made widely available, iron and ceramic pipe could be readily manufactured to carry in fresh water and carry away sewage, etc, etc, etc.It will be interesting to see the responses of those who are dedicated to the idea that the Industrial Revolution was tantamount to the work of the devil.
I take offense by your assertion that if I do not believe what you believe then I am evil. How arrogant of you to write the way you do.My sister has been caught in the Colorado floods. She’s safe, but can’t get to her house. I just sent her the prayer I learned from CAF from a Filippino asking for prayers re the flooding in the Philippines which claimed lives and did horrific damage. It was created by his bishop there:
Oratio Imperata for Deliverance from Calamities
“Almighty Father, we raise our hearts to You in gratitude for the wonders of creation of which we are part, for Your providence in sustaining us in our needs, and for Your wisdom that guides the course of the universe.
“We acknowledge our sins against You and the rest of creation.
“We have not been good stewards of Nature.
“We have confused Your command to subdue the earth.
“The environment is made to suffer our wrongdoing, and now we reap the harvest of our abuse and indifference.
“Global warming is upon us. Typhoons, floods, volcanic eruption, and other natural calamities occur in increasing number and intensity.
“We turn to You, our loving Father, and beg forgiveness for our sins.
“We ask that we, our loved ones and our hard earned possessions be spared from the threat of calamities, natural and man-made.
“We beseech You to inspire us all to grow into responsible stewards of Your creation, and generous neighbors to those in need.
“Amen.”
If we can’t find it in our hearts to reduce our greenhouse gases and other pollution – and would fiercely block any action our gov might take – we can at least pray.
I told my sister how I’d told the poster I’d be praying for him and the Philippines, and ask if he and others on the thread would pray for my area which had been in extremely severe drought until (this is what I think) they prayed, and now we have wonderful rain watering our flora and filling up our reservoirs. I asked that it not be hurricane-type winds and deluges (like Emily and Dolly that hit us hard some years back), but gentle healing rain. So far so good.
Prayer works. I even think perhaps our prayers to end climate change may have helped bring about the lull in its increase, the deep solar minimum, etc. Prayer works miracles.
It is all a matter of balance.PS. Carbon Dioxide is not air pollution.
I hope that is true. But it should not ecuse poor stewrdship.It now appears the UN’s IPCC people are about to publish a reassessment of their previous findings, First, a notable paragraph from a news article in the WSJ:
"Most experts believe that warming of less than 2 degrees Celsius from preindustrial levels will result in no net economic and ecological damage…
I agree, poor stewardship like shutting down entire industries in the name of MMGW is not good stewardship where it comes to the earths resources. We starve poor people and cause their lack of ability to provide for their own well being by robbing them of dignity. All in the name of mythical beliefs.I hope that is true. But it should not excuse poor stewardship.
Who is insulting now?This thread is dead, it should be shut down. All it is is a couple of leftists trying to scare others or shame them into compliance with the lies of our federal government.