Obama gate spying on the trump campaign

[Almo1]

What started ‘Obamagate’?​

On Friday, former US president Barack Obama expressed disquiet at the justice department dropping charges against Donald Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who was fired in early 2017 for lying about conversations with the Russian ambassador. On a recording obtained by Yahoo News, Obama warned that the “rule of law is at risk”. He also described Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic as “an absolute chaotic disaster”.

So Trump took the moral high ground and kept a dignified silence?​

Not quite. He spent Mother’s Day diving into the rightwing fever swamps and unleashing a barrage of tweets and retweets assailing his predecessor. One said simply “OBAMAGATE!” (the suffix “gate” is a frequently used play on the Watergate scandal that toppled President Richard Nixon).

Another linked to a post that declared, “Barack Hussain Obama is the first Ex-President to ever speak against his successor, which was long tradition of decorum and decency.” Trump added: “He got caught, OBAMAGATE!”

 

[RidgeSprinter]

Trump just lies. Here is the fact check on his claim:

PolitiFact | Obama isn't the first ex-president to speak ill of his successor

 

[Maximus1]

Thank you for reintroducing Politifact to America. Keep up the good work. Lol

 

[F_Marturana]

FYI on Mother’s Day the president tweeted 125+ times.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vi...bout-obama-flynn-and-the-russia-investigation

I wonder how many mothers died these past weeks?

Maybe just a day of uplifting statements, or just plain quiet?

 

[dvdjs]

One of the persons he was denigrating tweeted back:

Go make Melania brunch.

 

[Xystus]

Thank you for reintroducing Politifact to America. Keep up the good work. Lol

LOL indeed! Politifact were the ones that said Trump was “close” when he said the empire state building took one year to build when the exact time was one year and 45 days. They got the first letter right but the “lose” should have been “orrect”

 

[dvdjs]

when he said the empire state building took one year to build when the exact time was one year and 45 days

Trump, however, was comparing the full project time of the cases in question to construction time of the Empire State Building - there is more to putting up a building than the construction itself. That mistaken comparison is why the remark was criticized.

 

[Xystus]

if a “mistaken comparison” was the sole reason they would have said Trump was correct in saying it took one year to build… they didn’t, they could only bring themselves to say he was “close”. Its petty and one reason these “fact checks” should be looked at with a critical eye. they have an agenda just like the “news” outlets.

 

[Maximus1]

That post is routine behavior. It’s hard to believe it’s routine

 

[Feanor2]

FYI on Mother’s Day the president tweeted 125+ times.

Redirect Notice

I wonder how many mothers died these past weeks?

Maybe just a day of uplifting statements, or just plain quiet?

No, he isn’t capable of that.

 

[dvdjs]

if a “mistaken comparison” was the sole reason they would have said Trump was correct in saying it took one year to build

You might want to reread the fact check.

PolitiFact | Does it take 10 years to get a permit to build a road, as Donald Trump said?

Trump was out in left field comparing construction time to project time.
That is clear from the article.

 

[Maximus1]

I suspect he considers division in his interests.

 

[dscath]

So, for the sake of argument, let’s say the conspiracy theories are correct, and the Obama administration was spying on the Trump campaign 4 years ago.

How does that excuse Trump’s inability or unwillingness to execute the expectations of a statesman, world leader, or President.

Again, I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, and claim Trump is doing the best he can, but his skill set does not meet the needs or expectations of the sacred office of President of the United States.

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

None of that has anything to do with the topic of what Obama knew or was complicit in. Any topic that seems to cast bad light on Democrats, the former President, or former Vice President is simply met with Trump’s a jerk, he’s unqualified, he doesn’t tell the truth, etc.

What does ANY of that have to do with the facts as being revealed?

 

[Xystus]

The building was finished one year and 45 days later.

So Trump is close in terms of the year-long timeline of construction he gave.

bolding is mine but it says exactly what i said it did. Thanks.

 

[dvdjs]

It says exactly what i said it did

LOL. The article does use the word “close”. But is says much, much more than you said.

 

[Maximus1]

That’s the best case

 

[Maximus1]

It prevents distraction of the pending election. Because Obama’s surveillance, even if true, does not change WHAT OBAMA SAW AND HEARD.
Do you know the Trump argument unsaid:
FOUL FOUL… I got away with it fair and square.

 

[Xystus]

I did not say it did not say more. you are choosing to go well beyond my point in order to be able to say that you are correct. My point, which you helped show was 100% accurate and stated above was: “fact checks” should be looked at with a critical eye. they have an"agenda just like the “news” outlets. the “fact check” chose to nit pick (probably why you like it so much) the 1 year vs 1 year and 45 days issues instead of just saying that part was correct

 

[dvdjs]

it says exactly what i said it did.

I did not say it did not say more.

I am not sure that we have a common understanding of “exactly”.