Obama has won

[SuperLuigi]

Parties evolve. The Republican Party can and will take stock due to the current election. As I mentioned earlier, new leaders such as Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan will transform the Party. I hope the same happens to the Democratic Party despite their win, which was hardly a mandate. They are also in need of change.

The stage is set for Marco Rubio in 2016.

What a huge chance that will be.

 

[Mickey]

Guns, Ammo, Silver, and Offshore Banking Accounts.

What is the best way to buy silver?

 

[misscath007]

:grouphug:

I hope you aren’t serious. It’s ok to be disappointed. This is nothing compared to what previous generations have gone through though.

I agree with the poster above. I cannot think of any reason to want to die other than being afflicted with mental illness. Holy Cow! Be disappointed Ok… but you are going too far!

 

[SwizzleStick]

Parties evolve. The Republican Party can and will take stock due to the current election. As I mentioned earlier, new leaders such as Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan will transform the Party. I hope the same happens to the Democratic Party despite their win, which was hardly a mandate. They are also in need of change.

Do you really believe that? Really? Do you really think America can recover from this debacle? I don’t see a way out, I really don’t. We have gone over the cliff and are in free fall now. No way now but down. Obama has won, so that means America has lost. Game over.

 

[Richard320]

Precious Metals - meaning copper-jacketed lead. http://www.samizdata.net/~pdeh/smiley_woo.gif

 

[SuperLuigi]

Well, it’s your choice; not everyone is into politics and some are apathetic, not even bothering to vote. Personally, however, I don’t believe it’s a good idea to give up rather than fight for the principles you believe in. I don’t know how old you are, but I’ve been around for quite a while and have seen many changes, good and bad, in our country, as well as some real progress in certain areas. That took the will of people who continue to fight despite the obstacles. No good cause comes easily. Motivational speech over…

BTW, your vote did make a difference: Virginia was a close race.

Having uninformed people vote can be a double-edged sword.

 

[Cider]

Oh, puleeze. Spare us the conspiracy theory. Do you really think the Democrats colluded with the MSM?

Case in point, the Repub primary debate where out of complete left field Stephanopoulos ( you know, who used to work for Clinton) asks about the candidates stands on contraception. No one was talking about contraception at that point. The HHS mandate wasn’t made public. Yes I absolutely think that the topic being raised was collusion.

 

[PJH_74]

Where I’ve always kept it, my IRA and 401K. Wall St. and mortgage lenders did more by themselves to emliminate wealth in 2008 than any one president “D” or “R”. …anyway my investments are tax defered for decades still, who knows what things will look like then.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Do you really believe that? Really? Do you really think America can recover from this debacle? I don’t see a way out, I really don’t. We have gone over the cliff and are in free fall now. No way now but down.

…of course, Obama could always move to the center…but why would he? What incentive does he have to even try?

 

[Orogeny]

I’m sorry, but I cannot read any further. Did you really just compare Obama with God?!

Oh, it got worse.
DaddyGirl:

It feels to me that both the President and God are “pro-choice” in the grand scheme of things.

Sorry.

Peace

Tim

 

[_Abyssinia]

Those who keep touting the Latino vote as the one and only thing:

Explain to me how this got Obama Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin or even Michigan and Pennsylvania.

It’s not about Latinos, Blacks, Jews or GLTBQ—it’s about the entitlement culture.

It’s very simple, especially with immigration:

If you are going to run around telling people that they can move to XYZ state or city and get freebies, loafers from all over the planet will come.

If you have a climate of capitalistic growth and incentive, hard-working business professionals and people with a meaningful education that is useful somewhere will come.

The GOP doesn’t need to start becoming more liberal or dolling out handouts. We’ve tried that under “compassionate conservatism” and it does not work.

It’s getting to a point where a good chunk of that isn’t even ours to give anymore.

Liberalism fails no matter what race or gender or religion people are.

After the dust settles some, **this president’s approval ratings will dive. **

We may have been wrong about the election turnout, but liberalism has a good few millenia of failure on its historical record.

I think people put personal likeability of Obama over his economic and other policies

 

[oldcelt]

Case in point, the Repub primary debate where out of complete left field Stephanopoulos ( you know, who used to work for Clinton) asks about the candidates stands on contraception. No one was talking about contraception at that point. The HHS mandate wasn’t made public. Yes I absolutely think that the topic being raised was collusion.

That was a perfectly legitimate question. It in no way shows collusion.

John

 

[Kelfa28]

Gold and silver. Full stop.

Hard assets, never paper. Do not purchase gold or silver through a bank and receive a certificate. You have no idea what banks claim to have the actual ounces of physical gold and which ones are outright lying to you.

Off shore accounts are a good idea as well. Stocks that deal with agriculture and firearms are also a good idea right now.

Silver is $31.86 per ounce and Gold is about 1720 per ounce.

If you want a decent idea of inflation just in Obama’s first four years…hubby and I purchased our Gold at around $900 an ounce about 5 years ago. The price has almost doubled during Obama’s first term.

Think about what it will do in his second term.

 

[misscath007]

I, personally, don’t even want to live anymore. Truly. I don’t care. Please God let me die tonight in my sleep I do not want live on this planet anymore.

Please be careful saying things like this. Many People struggle with suicidal feelings and this is nothing to want to kill yourself over. Be disappointed, you are entitled… but you are going too far!

 

[meltzerboy]

Do you really believe that? Really? Do you really think America can recover from this debacle? I don’t see a way out, I really don’t. We have gone over the cliff and are in free fall now. No way now but down. Obama has won, so that means America has lost. Game over.

You give up too easily. America can recover from anything; just look at its history.

 

[Cider]

My collective in the south is installing 8 solar panels to power the retreat and topping off the propane. I have the ammo and reloading gear. THe next few months are going to be fun. I’ve always wanted to get off the grid.

I wanted to sell some guns this sumer, that I never shoot anymore but my husband said we should keep them. I guess he was right.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Originally Posted by Rich Olszewski View Post
Oh, puleeze. Spare us the conspiracy theory. Do you really think the Democrats colluded with the MSM?

A conspiracy theory is something the libertarian party/ Ron Paul supporters (BTW, how are all the Gary Johnson/third party voters doing? Was it worth it?) specializes in…ie 9-11 was an inside job.

The media has a track record of directly helping both republicans and democrats get elected.

It may interest you to know that during the c. 1930s and 1940s, TIME was conservative and they actually had a hand in at least one presidential nomination process.

 

[Persuader]

Their views ought to be demonized as they are nothing more than relativism.

And you expose that you don’t know what you’re talking about. What is relativist?

The arguments are mostly an admixture of hedonism, nihilism, and relativism. The engagements of this type are mostly in academe where dissent is not tolerated and frankly what rules the day outside that arena, unfortunately, is not academic brain masturbation but politics, sound bites, and cash.

No, they’re not. The arguments are mostly deontological. As I said, you dismiss academia to your peril. They are the one’s teaching your kids. Engage them, they are not monsters. They are serious people with serious opinions. Get real.

An unborn human is a person with much potential not a potential person because the unborn. 1 day born child has less capacity than a 1 day old calve in regards to mobility for example, but who would say calves have more of an inherent right to life or greater worth than an unborn child?

I’m not going to discuss the details in this thread. I was simply pointing out what the situation is in this regard, and that I don’t think you will see a real shift in public perception when you have the academic world so heavily against you.

In any case, I have given a link to an academic introduction on this debate. I skimmed your article, and I can say that several of the points would be countered. I think the article I provided would give some inkling as to how. Nevertheless, there’s no doubt that the arguments will ultimately rely on quite complex ideas that are not as easily accessible.

 

[Tampa_Dave]

Parties evolve. The Republican Party can and will take stock due to the current election. As I mentioned earlier, new leaders such as Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan will transform the Party. I hope the same happens to the Democratic Party despite their win, which was hardly a mandate. They are also in need of change.

Americans have changed. Americans are accepting Obama’s transformation of America, slowly but surely, as evidenced by the last two elections. I believe Republicans can do little to halt the transformation. Demographics, the changing of America’s populace, will bring in a new America no matter how adaptive the Republicans attempt to become. A more secular and socialist-style American government is coming: free medical care, free college, redistribution of assets, less organized religion, bigger government, green energy trumping all else. Fair share, fair shot, fair everything, you know the mantra. Of course, what is fair will be determined by federal bureaucrats of liberal persuasion. Liberal heaven on Earth is indeed coming to the United States of America.

 

[_Abyssinia]

The stage is set for Marco Rubio in 2016.

What a huge chance that will be.

Rubio declined Bob McConell’s request to take over the National republcian senatorial committee for 2014. I wonder if Rubio did this because he has a presidential plan?

I pray to God he runs for 2016. He had probably the best speech at the RNC. Rubio is articulate, intelligent, charasmastic