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Jesus was a socialist in principle you know, he healed everyone, not men of wealth…or who could afford it, he also said the pursue of wealth was evil and rich people would have a hard time getting into heaven…just saying
Really, Jesus was working for Caesar when He performed all His Miracles?

:rotfl:

Oh Vey, Do we need an Inquisition now more than ever!
 
Canada has everything America has and free healthcare, we are not unhappy socialists…no matter how hard FOX tries to bring strange fake Canadians claiming our wait time is horrible or doctors tell us we can’t have treatment…untrue bull…
Honestly, you really find healthcare that won’t cost you a dime frightening…so you would let your child die when he didin’t have to because your HMO said you used to much of their money…
Except Canada can balance a budget, has low debt, and low taxes.

Sorry Mar…you guys aren’t the Socialists anymore…America is.
 
I wan’t aware that Jesus was paid by the government.
Sam…he believed in health and equality, he healed everyone, from servants to tax man, from roman servants to to the woman pulling on his cloak…

he also said to ask for charity and stay in others homes and be welcomed. you honestly think he didn’t turn over the money tables in the temple because he thought he had a unfair deal…you been brainwashed, you mistaken socialism with communism and the rejection of the church.

the point is, man is equal, and wealth and caring for ones self is selfish and a form of vanity in the need to be better, remember those who are first will be last etc or as I said before, Jesus said, rich men wont give up riches and it’s hard for them to get into heaven. if you cant see that helping everyone is the right thing to do, then one day god will say, why should i help you if you think you shouldn’t or can’t help others?
 
Sam…he believed in health and equality, he healed everyone, from servants to tax man, from roman servants to to the woman pulling on his cloak…

he also said to ask for charity and stay in others homes and be welcomed. you honestly think he didn’t turn over the money tables in the temple because he thought he had a unfair deal…you been brainwashed, you mistaken socialism with communism and the rejection of the church.

the point is, man is equal, and wealth and caring for ones self is selfish and a form of vanity in the need to be better, remember those who are first will be last etc or as I said before, Jesus said, rich men wont give up riches and it’s hard for them to get into heaven. if you cant see that helping everyone is the right thing to do, then one day god will say, why should i help you if you think you shouldn’t or can’t help others?
Another Wow…just wow moment! :eek:
 
=Mar044;9989741]Canada has everything America has and free healthcare, we are not unhappy socialists…no matter how hard FOX tries to bring strange fake Canadians claiming our wait time is horrible or doctors tell us we can’t have treatment…untrue bull…
Thousands flee Canada for health care treatment:
dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/report-thousands-fled-canada-for-health-care-in-2011/

Can’t he get it free up there?
blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/02/10/canadian-premier-comes-to-us-for-heart-surgery/

priestsforlife.org/articles/3560-activist-priest-helps-canadian-baby

You’ll notice these aren’t from FOX NEWS, but I’d still wager FOX gets it right with your health care system, which frequently refers people to private clinics that are technically illegal in your country.
Honestly, you really find healthcare that won’t cost you a dime frightening…so you would let your child die when he didin’t have to because your HMO said you used to much of their money…
There is no such thing as a free lunch from government. Somehow, someway, someone is paying for it.

Whenever someone says “honestly” in a blog or conversation, it’s usually followed by dribble.
 
Except Canada can balance a budget, has low debt, and low taxes.

Sorry Mar…you guys aren’t the Socialists anymore…America is.
well we still have debit, but we never had the bailout or housing crash and our banking laws are good.

but the argument stands that we have a balanced budget and still have free healthcare, but it’s not free, so how can it be wrong when my taxes are deducted to pay for it, i pay for what I use, the same way you pay for a HMO.

now COLT Canada and pretty much everything else is made here that can’t be made in china, in fact most of the cars that are branded made in Detroit are actually made in Hamiliton Canada, and the LAV and everything else is made here, and yet you guys don’t complain. I think the issue is, partision politics is killing your nation, what can be done when one side blocks the other?
 
Thousands flee Canada for health care treatment:
dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/report-thousands-fled-canada-for-health-care-in-2011/

Can’t he get it free up there?
blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/02/10/canadian-premier-comes-to-us-for-heart-surgery/

priestsforlife.org/articles/3560-activist-priest-helps-canadian-baby

You’ll notice these aren’t from FOX NEWS, but I’d still wager FOX gets it right with your health care system, which frequently refers people to private clinics that are technically illegal in your country.

There is no such thing as a free lunch from government. Somehow, someway, someone is paying for it.

Whenever someone says “honestly” in a blog or conversation, it’s usually followed by dribble.
Honestly! how can you say that! dribble dribble dribble 😛 😃
 
well we still have debit, but we never had the bailout or housing crash and our banking laws are good.

but the argument stands that we have a balanced budget and still have free healthcare, but it’s not free, so how can it be wrong when my taxes are deducted to pay for it, i pay for what I use, the same way you pay for a HMO.

now COLT Canada and pretty much everything else is made here that can’t be made in china, in fact most of the cars that are branded made in Detroit are actually made in Hamiliton Canada, and the LAV and everything else is made here, and yet you guys don’t complain. I think the issue is, partision politics is killing your nation, what can be done when one side blocks the other?
No, it’s because you have Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party running Canada.
 
Thousands flee Canada for health care treatment:
dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/report-thousands-fled-canada-for-health-care-in-2011/

Can’t he get it free up there?
blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/02/10/canadian-premier-comes-to-us-for-heart-surgery/

priestsforlife.org/articles/3560-activist-priest-helps-canadian-baby

You’ll notice these aren’t from FOX NEWS, but I’d still wager FOX gets it right with your health care system, which frequently refers people to private clinics that are technically illegal in your country.

There is no such thing as a free lunch from government. Somehow, someway, someone is paying for it.

Whenever someone says “honestly” in a blog or conversation, it’s usually followed by dribble.
YOU ARE A LIAR!
my gran had heart surgery here!
we ALSO INVENTED HEART BYPASS!

stop with your lies! and ask for gods forgiveness! i hate these sinners! you can’t even tell the truth on A CATHOLIC FORUM!

i live HERE! i know what im saying, your goggling THIRD PARTY BLOGS!

last time i help your spiteful country!

all those link are FOX NEWS TYPE BLOGS, ASK ANY CANADIAN Here THE TRUTH!
i have no pity for sinners, im mad, because you talk about things you DO NOT know about
live here before you open your mouth
 
=Mar044;9989796]well we still have debit, but we never had the bailout or housing crash and our banking laws are good.
Exactly. Straight, white male guilt isn’t as big of an issue up there.
but the argument stands that we have a balanced budget and still have free healthcare, but it’s not free, so how can it be wrong when my taxes are deducted to pay for it, i pay for what I use, the same way you pay for a HMO.
The reason why you have “free” care, as you put is, is because of price control. That control means rationing, especially in specialized fields such as orthopedics. People have to wait months for treatment. Some Canadians will travel for hours for treatment in the USA and pay tens of thousands of dollars because the pain gets to be unbearable.
]now COLT Canada and pretty much everything else is made here that can’t be made in china, in fact most of the cars that are branded made in Detroit are actually made in Hamiliton Canada, and the LAV and everything else is made here, and yet you guys don’t complain.
Over 70% of GM’s inventory comes from abroad. Why? Detroit unions are too just expensive.
I think the issue is, partision politics is killing your nation, what can be done when one side blocks the other?
What is killing this country is entitlements and spending and a bunch of sniveling special interest groups who think they are owed by society.
 
You can’t use two different sources for an objective analysis. Oh brother! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

But if it will make you feel better, because surely I don’t want to hurt your feelings. I will admit that you were wrong. 🙂
WHO doesn’t compile their own stats. They get them from the official government agencies that compile them. The CDC compiles the data for the US, and they give a final rate of 12 for 2009. Thankfully, we have 2009 rates from the Scandinavian countries also (compiled by their respective officials). Two countries show a marginally lower rate, whereas one show a marginally higher rate.

And as I said, the rates are essentially the same. That’s it.
 
That would be the Confederacy that was based on slavery? That symbolizes your Catholic faith how?
Not terribly topical perhaps, but possibly of passing interest. Referencing Inego, it may be mentioned that for a long time, slavery in Louisiana was unique among the southern states. It was more like indentured servitude, and it was assumed that every slave would eventually earn his own freedom, and there were rules about that as well as rules about humane treatment. New Orleans had more free blacks and far and away more interracial marriages than anywhere else, north or south. Louisiana came under pressure as a state to conform its slavery laws with the “chattel slavery” laws prevailing in the Anglo south and to some extent did. But it never did entirely. It is my understanding that the traditional Louisiana way of treating slavery was fairly consistent with Church positions on the subject at the time.

That has little to do with Obama winning the presidential election, but it does relate to such things as displaying the confederate flag as a sort of protest. If Louisiana had a “confederate flag” all its own, I have never seen it, and don’t know whether it would cause a disturbance or not.
 
Exactly. Straight, white male guilt isn’t as big of an issue up there.

The reason why you have “free” care, as you put is, is because of price control. That control means rationing, especially in specialized fields such as orthopedics. People have to wait months for treatment. Some Canadians will travel for hours for treatment in the USA and pay tens of thousands of dollars because the pain gets to be unbearable.

Over 70% of GM’s inventory comes from abroad. Why? Detroit unions are too just expensive.

What is killing this country is entitlements and spending and a bunch of sniveling special interest groups who think they are owed by society.
my taxes are deducted to pay for healthcare, I had a MRI within 3 days and it was non urgent, i had surgery in a week and it was semi urgent, considering what it was for, you sound like a FOX news reporter, come here before you open your mouth because you don’t know what you are talking about.

you know what, don’t, what do I care, I’m so tired of telling people the truth, you want to know whats wrong with America, brainwashed fools that think America is number 1, that anyone that says anything that isn’t what they think is FALSE, a person from Canada, cant even speak the truth about his own nation, instead somehow a person who probably never been here, listen to fox news and knows how our system is run.

so good luck in your next war, take whatever issues you have with god, your debt and crime rate, and whatever else you blame yourliving standards compared to the rest of the modern industrial nations. I’m mad yes, because it’s the type of mad you get when you know what your saying is right, and instead someone tells you horse bs third person person talk that isn’t real…
 
Why do people vote for Obama? Because there are really no other choices. Most Catholics don’t vote for Romney because of his views. They vote for him because he is the lesser of two evils. Really why are people so surprised when a man who claim he does not care about the 47% of Americans, believes that Russia is our enemy, change his views every 3 seconds and tied his dog on the roof of his car? Let be honest, Romney isn’t a good choice. Ron Paul may have a good chance of winning but Romney? Only by some miracle.

Obama is our president, like it or not it’s the pride of democracy. We need to continue our fight for religious freedom no longer through politics, but with inner fervor and love for the Lord. Let freedom rings!
 
No, you need not do that. The election educated all of us yesterday.
I’ll say. I remember you telling us on here not that long ago that you rejected the notion of an uninformed, gullible electorate. Last night’s results beg to differ.
 
Praise God! I am so glad he won and I’ll tell you why. I appreciate that he is crystal clear on where he stands. Remember that verse that says it’s better to be hot or cold than in the middle and lukewarm? I saw Romney that way. He waffled so much I could not trust him to take any sort of stand or even be telling the truth at all. I know we’re talking politicians here. Romney made millions off of disposing aborted fetus’ and was a shareholder in the company that manufactures the morning after pill. He was lying to get the Christian vote and God exacted his vengence for lying to His people.

Obama has backed off some on HHS and I think if we keep pushing we can get it back. I see him as willing to cross party lines and he doesn’t change his mind 100 times a day. I was ecstatic becuase I truly believe Romney, who takes companies and sells them to China, was dangerous to our economy.

I am grinning all day. If Romney would have won everyone would have said it’s God’s will. Now that Obama has, we must say the same, after all–you can’t have it both ways. God will bring out His will in His way and at least as a social worker I don’t have to worry about my mentally ill clients having their benefits cut. I am so relieved.

Thanks be to God.
I agree with you that Romney was a loose canon rolling on the deck.

He claimed to be able to work with the opposition, based on his Massachusetts tenure. Yet, when one looks at his record, the things he takes credit for are instances of things he vetoed, and the mass senate overroad his veto. He didn’t work with them at all. And that was just the first in a long series of deceptive statements.

I have suspected that the reason for his loss was having Ryan on the ticket with his draconian social agenda. I reasoned that he failed to get enough of the retiree vote in Florida. This idea was confirmed anecdotally today, when I spoke with my 90 year old grandmother. She voted for Romney, but was troubled by his flip flopping. By Election Day she did not trust him. She told me that a number of her friends said that they preferred Romney, but their fear of Ryan pushed them away, and they voted Obama.
 
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