Obama has won

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=Mar044;9989807]YOU ARE A LIAR!
Typing in all caps and calling names…
my gran had heart surgery here!
Thousands of Canadians are less fortunate than your “gran”.

There’s really not much medical innovation going on in Canada these days because there isn’t much incentive.

I do applaud the conservative government there for trying to make reforms.
we ALSO INVENTED HEART BYPASS!
Actually, that was done first in Cleveland.

wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_invented_bypass_surgery
stop with your lies! and ask for Gods forgiveness! i hate these sinners! you can’t even tell the truth on A CATHOLIC FORUM!
You say you hate me and I’m the one who needs to ask for forgiveness? :confused:
i live HERE! i know what im saying, your goggling THIRD PARTY BLOGS!
Those are reputable sources, and I’ll take them over your personal, emotional testimonies.
last time i help your spiteful country!
No one asked for your help; besides all you are posting are personal experiences. I know how vague and biased that is.
all those link are FOX NEWS TYPE BLOGS,
How is Bob Barr associated with FOX NEWS?
ASK ANY CANADIAN Here THE TRUTH!
We have. Before Congress, and boy did we ever hear the truth.
i have no pity for sinners,
That’s a shame, because Jesus did.
Anger can lead to bad things.
because you talk about things you DO NOT know about
live here before you open your mouth
I did live in Scotland for a time and I know a thing or two about “free” health care, and you don’t have to live under it to understand it.
 
Romney lost because
  1. He is a Mormon, and the evangelicals didn’t come out (really dumb reason, IMO, but that doesn’t change that it is a reason)
  2. He is a CC Republican (or is perceived that way)
  3. He is filthy rich (not saying that it is a good reason, just a reason) and
  4. People felt that they could erase racism by voting for Obama
Contrary to popular liberal opinion, I think that this election tells us little about the overall political leanings of this country.
 
my taxes are deducted to pay for healthcare, I had a MRI within 3 days and it was non urgent, i had surgery in a week and it was semi urgent, considering what it was for, you sound like a FOX news reporter, come here before you open your mouth because you don’t know what you are talking about.

you know what, don’t, what do I care, I’m so tired of telling people the truth, you want to know whats wrong with America, brainwashed fools that think America is number 1, that anyone that says anything that isn’t what they think is FALSE, a person from Canada, cant even speak the truth about his own nation, instead somehow a person who probably never been here, listen to fox news and knows how our system is run.

so good luck in your next war, take whatever issues you have with god, your debt and crime rate, and whatever else you blame yourliving standards compared to the rest of the modern industrial nations. I’m mad yes, because it’s the type of mad you get when you know what your saying is right, and instead someone tells you horse bs third person person talk that isn’t real…
I hope I can discuss with you, respectfully of course. Would you be able to provide evidence that your experience with your country’s healthcare is consistent of all Canadian citizens? I’m not arguing against your point, just want to find out if it is, in fact, consistent. I know that here in the U.S., every single town, city, county and state are entirely different in regards to virtually everything, including healthcare.

Fox News seems to really get under your skin. People seem to paint them as some ‘Right-Wing’ extremist news outlet when, in fact, they are more-so leaning to the left than even being moderate. They just appear to be right-wing because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, The New York Times, L.A. Times, Huffington Post and so-on are so far left.

For example, how many of the U.S. Mainstream media outlets have put out any significant news on Benghazi? There has been virtually no coverage from any of them.

Also, Fox News was one of the first, if not the first, to declare Obama the winner yesterday. Not only that, but the newscasters were getting frustrated with Romney for not conceding sooner than he did. Does this paint the picture of a biased, Right-Wing news source who supports Republicans?

In regards to healthcare here, most agree that it needs to be revamped. The problem with Obamacare is that he wants to force medical establishments to pay for contraception, abortions and many other evils that the Catholic Church is vehemently against. I’m sure that, as a Catholic yourself, you can see that this is intrinsically evil and against everything we believe in.

War is only evil if it is an unjust war. Innocent men, women and children were murdered in the thousands because of Muslim extremists. I would consider that a righteous justification to protect our citizens.

In Irag, Saddam Hussein was continuously slaughtering hundreds of thousands of his own people. I would assume that, if a dictator in your country was murdering hundreds of thousands of your countrymen, you would want someone to come in and liberate you.

Republicans are not these ‘bloodthirsty’ war mongers. They are, however, quick on their feet to help those in need. Just like the poor need help, so do the oppressed, but in a different way.
 
Romney lost because
  1. He is a Mormon, and the evangelicals didn’t come out (really dumb reason, IMO, but that doesn’t change that it is a reason)
  2. He is a CC Republican (or is perceived that way)
  3. He is filthy rich (not saying that it is a good reason, just a reason) and
  4. People felt that they could erase racism by voting for Obama
Contrary to popular liberal opinion, I think that this election tells us little about the overall political leanings of this country.
pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx
At the other end of the political spectrum, nearly eight-in-ten white evangelical Protestants voted for Romney (79%), compared with 20% who backed Obama. Romney received as much support from evangelical voters as George W. Bush did in 2004 (79%) and more support from evangelicals than McCain did in 2008 (73%). Mormon voters were also firmly in Romney’s corner; nearly eight-in-ten Mormons (78%) voted for Romney, while 21% voted for Obama. Romney received about the same amount of support from Mormons that Bush received in 2004. (Exit poll data on Mormons was unavailable for 2000 and 2008)
What is a CC republican?

Obama campaign categorised Romney as rich and out of touch and that worked with voters sadly

Romney campaign did not reach out to young people and Latinos enough on a range issues and that was a big reason, I think, as to why Romney lost
 
YOU ARE A LIAR!
my gran had heart surgery here!
we ALSO INVENTED HEART BYPASS!

stop with your lies! and ask for gods forgiveness! i hate these sinners! you can’t even tell the truth on A CATHOLIC FORUM!

i live HERE! i know what im saying, your goggling THIRD PARTY BLOGS!

last time i help your spiteful country!

all those link are FOX NEWS TYPE BLOGS, ASK ANY CANADIAN Here THE TRUTH!
i have no pity for sinners, im mad, because you talk about things you DO NOT know about
live here before you open your mouth
Please read the forum rules before you call names and call people sinners. It is not permitted here and if you wish to stay, take my advice. You sound angry. Get control of yourself and then come back and express your ideas in an adult, charitable way. Ideas are always welcome. Rants are not.
 
=Mar044;9989874]my taxes are deducted to pay for healthcare, I had a MRI within 3 days and it was non urgent, i had surgery in a week and it was semi urgent, considering what it was for,
In a lot cases, that is done immediately here in the USA.
you sound like a FOX news reporter,
That’s quite a compliment, thanks! 😃
come here before you open your mouth because you don’t know what you are talking about.
Not agreeing with you has no impact on my knowledge.
you know what, don’t, what do I care
Then why do you respond?
I’m so tired of telling people the truth,
It’s your perspective, not quite the whole truth.
you want to know whats wrong with America, brainwashed fools that think America is number 1,
Well, after what happened yesterday, I wonder about my country.
that anyone that says anything that isn’t what they think is FALSE, a person from Canada, cant even speak the truth about his own nation, instead somehow a person who probably never been here,
Interesting concept of “truth” considering you said it was “free” and then just said you have your taxes pay for it.
listen to fox news and knows how our system is run.
I don’t even have cable.
so good luck in your next war,
Interesting point, considering that your country has pledged to defend Israel and I have no idea what this president would do if it came to war.
take whatever issues you have with God, your debt and crime rate, and whatever else you blame yourliving standards compared to the rest of the modern industrial nations.
And do what with them?
I’m mad yes, because it’s the type of mad you get when you know what your saying is right, and instead someone tells you horse bs third person person talk that isn’t real…
It’s very much real and if you were right you should feel satisfied as opposed to mad.

I’m inclined to suggest anger management at this point and some counseling in helping you understand that there are people with different perspectives and that thousands of your fellow citizens are hurt by the current health care system you have.
 
pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx

What is a CC republican?

Obama campaign categorised Romney as rich and out of touch and that worked with voters sadly

Romney campaign did not reach out to Latinos enough on a range issues and that was a big reason, I think, as to why Romney lost
That’s odd. I got a different report :o

CC=Country Club

Mitt surrounded himself with the wrong Bush’s hommies: Bush 1, instead of Bush 2
 
Actually, it’s not, but it doesn’t matter. Wiki provides sources for their numbers. If you check the sources, you will find that the numbers match up. The sources are the WHO and CDC. So stop it.
I could go to this very page on Wikipedia and increase the suicide rates for the Scandinavian regions to 25% each without any real proof. Someone may change it back but then someone else could change it again. It is unreliable and in many cases the claims are unverifiable.

At any rate according to the Wikipedia entry you cited they suicide rates are higher than America, granted not by leaps and bounds but higher. Also you need to factor the proportion of the population of each country to America. Obviously 13% of 300 million is not as many as 14% of a population of 4,700,000, the population of Norway.
 
CNN reports 50% of Catholics voted for Obama, 48% for Romney.
Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. For there shall be from henceforth five in one house divided: three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against his father, the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother, the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And he said also to the multitudes: When you see a cloud rising from the west, presently you say: A shower is coming: and so it happeneth: And when ye see the south wind blow, you say: There will be heat: and it cometh to pass.
You hypocrites, you know how to discern the face of the heaven and of the earth: but how is it that you do not discern this time? And why even of yourselves, do you not judge that which is just? And when thou goest with thy adversary to the prince, whilst thou art in the way, endeavour to be delivered from him: lest perhaps he draw thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the exacter, and the exacter cast thee into prison. I say to thee, thou shalt not go out thence, until thou pay the very last mite.
The Gospel of St Luke Ch 12
 
And so it has begun - Our friends own a business that employes male latinos. They came to work today hooting and hollering because they voted for Obama and he is their man. Well. my friend had to lay them off today, because three different jobs from three companies called and canceled the work to be done that would have employed them during the upcoming winter months.

All three companies said the same thing. They were now unwilling to put out the money due to the election results.

The five men were not smiling when they left for home.
This is hardly news. This is what a lot of coporations have been doing over the past 4 years, laying off or refusing to hire and working their present staff 60-70 hour weeks in the hopes of keeping the economy in the tank and returning to the Bush/Cheney corporate gravy train days. It didn’t work, and it won’t work again. It is too bad that innocent people had to suffer for those tactics, and those responsible will be held accountable for it, you can bank on that.
 
Fox News is own and directed by Murdoch of World News Corp. They do not provide in any way, shape or form balance or accurate news.

Most of the links on here link to extreme right wing ideology groups supported by SuperPac and big corporate interests.

Everyone talks about debt but NO one and I mean NO one that I have seen question or objected on how or why he was going to increase military spending to $2 trillion dollars <…crickets…>, keep the Bush tax cuts in place, reduce the tax rate on the wealthy unless it was to gut regulatory agencies and entitlement programs for the 99% of Americans. As Pres. Obama stated, the numbers don’t add up.

He stated he was going actually pledge to balance the budget in 8 years and increase job growth by 12 million jobs in the first 4 years. How? He never said how this was going to be accomplished. You can’t make sweeping statements and never tell the voters how you were going to accomplish your agenda.

What is interesting if you go back to his campaign policies at the beginning of his campaign for presidency using the Way Back Portal, his policies kept shifting sometimes in opposite directions.
Unbelievable.
 
Today we give thanks to God for the leadership and person of Barack Obama.
Leadership? What leadership? All he did was play golf, go on vacation, shove Obamacare down our throat, take away our religious liberties, and push the abortion envelope even further, forcing people to pay for them.
 
This is hardly news. This is what a lot of coporations have been doing over the past 4 years, laying off or refusing to hire and working their present staff 60-70 hour weeks in the hopes of keeping the economy in the tank and returning to the Bush/Cheney corporate gravy train days. It didn’t work, and it won’t work again. It is too bad that innocent people had to suffer for those tactics, and those responsible will be held accountable for it, you can bank on that.
Why do you say this? I don’t think it’s any secret that a lot of large corporations have laid off workers in the last four years in order to keep profits up…something they have an obligation to shareholders to do. They did that because their revenues were down, and the only way to make up for it is to cut costs where possible.

For smaller businesses, it’s different. They are just plain scared. I know a lot of small business people and over the last four years they have heard a lot of threatening things from this administration. Some have been carried out. Some were abandoned. But for certain, their costs are going to go up, and soon. Obamacare is absolutely going to cost them more for health insurance. Obama’s promise to make utility rates go up is a threat to the cost of doing business. All of them fear rises in interest rates which they think government overspending is going to make inevitable. So they’re afraid to borrow. Most businesses anymore can’t cut any further, and it’s just absurd to think they have been doing it in order to make Obama look bad. They do it to maintain a livelihood for themselves and their families.

It’s no great secret that big business is hand in glove with government when it comes to regulations. Many government regulators rely on businesses to do that for them because they don’t understand the businesses the way the business people do. Do big businesses collude with government in order to implement regulations that will force small businesses out? Maybe so, maybe not, but small businesses think it’s so. Long ago I was in a small business of a different sort than the one I’m in now, and I remember finally realizing that baffling and onerous new regulations requiring me to do this or that were actually aimed at requiring me to do things the big businesses of a similar sort were already doing. And this administration is every bit as much in bed with big business as any other has been.

And small businesses are the “jobs” of the people who own them. They have to “buy” their very jobs daily, and have to watch costs very closely. Why would someone threaten retribution against them for being cautious about preserving their own jobs? Don’t all employees do the same thing, but in a different way? And their businesses are their retirement programs as well. Small business people don’t have guaranteed retirement pensions. They rely on their businesses for that.

How do you want to hold them “accountable”? Shoot them? Tax them some more as punishment? What?
 
There are two things for sure about yesterdays election:
  1. Abortion will remain legal in all states for at least another generation
  2. Homosexual marriage will become legal throughput the country.
Make no mistake-Catholics are to blame for this. We could have stopped this, we didnt.
 
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