The truth is that’s a load. No woman is ever “forced” to reveal the name of her latest “baby -daddy”–it’s considered un-PC and a violation of her right to privacy to do so! And yes, the welfare moms know it! And “they”–if you mean the state-- go after nobody–except working tax payers of course.
Really…
Um excuse me but those are HIS tax dollars! His and his wife’s and if they want to use it to go on vacations and buy 2nd and 3rd houses that is THEIR business. That is why he goes to work everyday. Not so someone can come along and say “gee, you have enough, now you will work for what I say is important”
Actually, I get this guy’s point–it took me reading a few responses and his replies before it sunk in with me–but I get it! I suspect he’s not so much serious in wanting to commit fraud as he is simply verbalizing a feeling that many of us share today–me included. It almost seems as if society punishes those of us who live traditional lives–who go to work, earn our own food, buy our own clothing and pay for our own housing. Obamacare, even as hard as it is to currently check potential premium estimates with the whole system down, is almost the final straw. His point is that it is wrong —a GREAT SOCIETAL SIN in my opinion–to see single women collect more and more money and food stamps each month for simply living their lives with their legs spread to any man who wanders in and out of their life and impregnates them once a year. He works and pays for his cell phone. People on welfare often set at home and get a free cell phone. He works and pays for his home. He sees people who don’t work–and they live in subsidized housing and YES–often the woman is the one qualified and receiving the benefits, but her boyfriend of the month is living with her and the caseworkers know it–but unless the woman is stupid enough to write it down, the authorities turn a blind eye! Extra food stamps are traded for x-boxes. WIC provides them enough extra milk, cheese etc that I’ve seen people selling it or trading it on the local on line salecycle in my town for video games, high heels and all kinds of things–and again, I’m perfectly aware that a blind eye is turned. Why do more “poor” women bottle feed than breast feed as a rule? Why not? The government gives them free formula! Current society is so concerned that these people’s kids might not get a good education since they are supposedly living in poverty–even though sadly, most of them will also be pregnant by 16 and on welfare since for so many, it’s a family tradition–that these kids gt free “Head Start” even if the mom is setting at home on her butt. But, as a working parent, if we want our pre-schooler to be in a headstart type of program, we have to pay through the nose.
I get the thread starters point–and hey buddy, I HEAR YOU! Remember when you vote next time how you feel right now. I think in a perfect society that every person should have health insurance too. I just don’t think I should have to pay for it! If Obama or Reid or Pelosi want it given away for free–let them pony up! They didn’t even return the salary they collected during the government shut down! I get tired of being their mule too! And there is a huge difference between Christ’s admonition to feed the hungry and clothe the naked than some politician’s socialist belief that we should enable the lazy or enslave the industrious to promote the unwilling I agree, but it’s not worth it to me to chance going to jail to make a statement to a government that doesn’t listen anyway–because we continue to elect leaders who don’t listen and who are so rich that none of it even touches them! Even to make a statement–which you did well and which I get! LOL!
This is off topic but I wanted to comment on this. I completely agree with you. And the way things are going, I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future the government allows “marriage” between perverted people and animals! Sorry, I’ll quit ranting now.
Render unto Ceasar that which is Caesars. And when Christ was asked that about paying taxes to the evil pagan empire, their tax rates were atrocious, tax collectors stole and inflated tax debts.
Have you been reading this thread?
Where in my post did I say I wanted to defraud the government? Your response is not making any sense. We get up and go to work in the morning. We pay our taxes. We should be able to spend our money as we see fit. If that means sending our children to private school and taking vacations several times a year then by golly that is our right. If we want to donate our time to volunteer work, tithe, support our local parish programs that is our right. You have no idea what kind of person I am. I just happen to be the kind of person who stocks the food pantry at our parish. I pick several angels off of the Christmas trees at our church and at the schools. I volunteer in the class rooms and try to supply the teachers with items like hand sanitizers and paper and goodies on party day. I teach religious education and chaperone field trips. When a teacher or the church asks for help and I am available. I am there helping.
When a person takes time away from their family to go to work to earn money to support that family they should be able to keep most of what they earn. Welfare is for those who can’t take care of themselves. Unfortuantely it is filled with those who simply won’t take care of themselves. I am not of them.
Now exactly just how does that make me the ultimate freeloader
Yes I have been reading this disturbing thread. I had to interject when you falsely claimed he wanted OUR tax dollars to buy houses. Those dollars are earned by him therefore they are HIS tax dollars paid to a corrupt system that takes from those who work hard and gives to those who refuse to do so. There are several of us who are clearly overpaying our share. If you are not one of them then I understand why you don’t see a problem with it. But those of us who are at a point where we are working most of the year to pay for ridiculous unnecessary programs are saying enough is enough. somewhere in this madness of loopholes that everyone else is benefiting off of my money must be a loophole I can use to (gasp!!!) keep more of what I earn.
I get it believe me.
Nor do i recall where he said that if ceaser took half of your income to buy bread to hand out to the masses but was willing to give you some also, you could not accept it.
I’m not sure what the OP and his wife are going to do about living separately or apart, from time to time or most of the time or all of the time.
No your friend is cheating.
But the state doesn’t care, in his case, whether he lives with the woman who is and always was his wife in the eyes of the Church, another woman or five other women. It only cares if he is married as the state understands marriage.
It is you who does not understand the scriptures. Jesus was not in America. He was in first century Judea. Under a government that was a little less than fair (Remember that crucifixion thing) he told the Jews to give what is due to Ceasar, to pay their taxes regardless. Whether or not this is an “American Principle” or not, is beside the point. Jesus was not American , he did not found the USA and he lived under a far more corrupt, greedy, mismanaged government than we do.
Welfare and most entitlements also go by "household income "
what if they had 50/50 custody? there would not be child support or alimony?
The state cares nothing about “honesty” in a moral sense, but only in a legal sense. As the state departs more and more from morally-based laws, where does our obligation to obey them in spirit end, so long as we are obeying the letter?