Obama's State of the Union remarks

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Rich_Olszewski said:
We can’t pre-judge. There’s time to see how much will come to fruition. I’m hoping that The Party of No sheds that image and instead works on behalf of our nation.
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I have been hoping the same thing about those Democrats for years now. At least we are on the same page.
 
If he is truly all about himself then he’ll go the way of Bill Clinton (compromise his values for his ego’s sake to do the will of the people) so that he can go down in history as a good president. If he’s not concerned about his ego and is more conceerned about an ideaistic agenda (along the lines of knowing what the people need more than they know for themselves and thus making policy directed toward that end) then his speech was just that, a speach, not a plan to put into action.
 
The one good thing that he didn’t say was, “let’s have more gun control laws.”

I see we now have a new word for spending; INVEST! :eek:
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
I don’t disagree with most of the SotUA (I adamantly disagree with his so-call “Health Care Reform”). I don’t think there was much about the speech that was disagreeable, but then again, it was a high altitude speech designed specifically to point out goals that everyone in the country can get behind, which is specifically what the President SHOULD be doing. He shouldn’t be using the SotU as a soap box to dictate to the minor party what he and his party are going to do in spite of their objections (like last year’s speech). The speech was devoid of specifics or a plan to achieve these lofty goals, and it is those specifics that are the direct cause of the divisions in this country. While I think he will get a bump from the speech, when the rubber meets the road, and it is time to find money for all of these “investments” that he called for, he is going to run head first into a Republican party that is stocked with Freshmen Tea Party members who (hopefully) will refuse to budge on new spending without significant earmark and entitlement reform.
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That’s pretty much my thoughts on the whole thing, too. It’s easy to rally around the common goals, but the second we start talking specifics, the disagreements will enter in. Here’s hoping that Obama can actually accomplish some of these lofty goals.

And thanks to gilliam for posting the link. I just can’t sit through these addresses because the standing ovations every 30 seconds irritate me. It’s much quicker for me just to read it. 🙂
 
LCMS_No_More said:
Actually, I think that’s the plan. Party of “No” and all.
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Proud to be party of “No.” 👍

NO to abortion
No to extended unemployment benefits
NO to bigger government
NO to increased “Investments.”
NO to IRS social engineering
NO to Cap and Trade
NO to government subsidies
NO to Obama Care

Proud to be party of “No.” 👍
 
qui_est_ce said:
Proud to be party of “No.” 👍

NO to abortion
No to extended unemployment benefits
NO to bigger government
NO to increased “Investments.”
NO to IRS social engineering
NO to Cap and Trade
NO to government subsidies
NO to Obama Care

Proud to be party of “No.” 👍
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True indeed, Christine. You guys are all “No, no, no.”

Reminds me of that saying about the Navy that applies to the GOP as well: “Two hundred years of tradition unmarred by progress!” 😛 🙂
 
estesbob said:
Unless somewhere in his speech he announced his resignation i really could not care less what he said.
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He speaks with a forked tongue.

Says one thing & does another. So deceptive!

Rush Limbaugh was right. After raising everything-now he wants to freeze it where it is.

Sons of the Republic-look and learn.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
The one good thing that he didn’t say was, “let’s have more gun control laws.”

I see we now have a new word for spending; INVEST! :eek:
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HOOAH!

You’re the man, Stan.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
bbarrick8383 said:
Like I said earlier though, what that man says and what he is thinking is two entirely different things.
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How do you know this? Are you a telepath? What’s your P-rating? Or are you pulling this out of somewhere unmentionable?
I have no doubt in my mind that those words were fashioned in a very artistic way to make people think that this man has somehow come to his senses after two years of being in office.
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Emotional, yes, irrational, no.
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And you’re gonna tell us that you think that Bush’s hokey, down-home way of talking wasn’t calculated and “fashioned in a very artistic way to make people think that the man somehow can relate to the common man and understand his plight.”

Right. :rolleyes:
 
qui_est_ce said:
Proud to be party of “No.” 👍

NO to abortion
No to extended unemployment benefits
NO to bigger government
NO to increased “Investments.”
NO to IRS social engineering
NO to Cap and Trade
NO to government subsidies
NO to Obama Care

Proud to be party of “No.” 👍
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Keep going to the logical conclusion:

NO more middle class
 
LCMS_No_More said:
And you’re gonna tell us that you think that Bush’s hokey, down-home way of talking wasn’t calculated and “fashioned in a very artistic way to make people think that the man somehow can relate to the common man and understand his plight.”

Right. :rolleyes:
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Yes.

I’ve seen his interviews and I’m reading his book. Same manner of speech.
 
qui_est_ce said:
Yes.

I’ve seen his interviews and I’m reading his book. Same manner of speech.
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LCMS_No_More’s observation and yours aren’t necessarily at odds. Bush could have written his book, like his speeches, just as “fashioned in a very artistic way.”
 
I see one message from this speech coming through loud and clear: “Government’s job is to constantly impose regulations, entitlements, and appropriations upon its citizenry.” IE - If you aren’t expanding the State’s influence through laws you obviously aren’t doing your job. Yeah, I’m on-board with the “Party of No,” on this one. Your many-tentacled, godless monster of a bureaucracy can take a long walk off a short pier, Mr. President.

I’m not buying the ten-steps-forward-one-step-back song-and-dance act your media flaks are trying to peddle as “moderation” or “centrism,” either. The current Manhattan/Hollywood definition of “center” is light-years to the left of where it was 30 years ago. Don’t sell me a bill of goods on the merits of “centrism” when the center has no objective location, let alone value.

It is time to invest in the security of the savings of the elderly and the wages of our workers by assuming austerity measures instead of just printing more money. It is time to invest in job creation by eliminating Central Statist micromanagement of our industries - letting the citizens pick which businesses are winners and losers instead of your Csars. It is time to invest in our future by putting an end to the killing of children in the womb.

Mr. President, your speech wasn’t about investing in the United States; it was all about investing in the Central Government. News flash: it’s a ponzi scheme!
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LCMS_No_More said:
How do you know this? Are you a telepath? What’s your P-rating? Or are you pulling this out of somewhere unmentionable?

And you’re gonna tell us that you think that Bush’s hokey, down-home way of talking wasn’t calculated and “fashioned in a very artistic way to make people think that the man somehow can relate to the common man and understand his plight.”

Right. :rolleyes:
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Ill paraphrase one of my favorite movies: If you cant spot the sucker within the first half hour, you are the sucker. In other words, you want to believe a man that would have had his own children murdered if they had survived a botched abortion then go ahead, be the sucker.
 
LCMS_No_More said:
How do you know this? Are you a telepath? What’s your P-rating? Or are you pulling this out of somewhere unmentionable?

And you’re gonna tell us that you think that Bush’s hokey, down-home way of talking wasn’t calculated and “fashioned in a very artistic way to make people think that the man somehow can relate to the common man and understand his plight.”

Right. :rolleyes:
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It only took 32 posts for the obligatory bush bashing post to appear.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
Ill paraphrase one of my favorite movies: If you cant spot the sucker within the first half hour, you are the sucker. In other words, you want to believe a man that would have had his own children murdered if they had survived a botched abortion then go ahead, be the sucker.
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Well, I did recognize one person who turned out to be Visitor in the first episode of the new V, but I suspected her because she was the bad apple of the Final Five Cylons.
 
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