Obesity: Sensitivity or Intervention?

[blessedtoo]

I personally need ideas for meals that don’t involve a lot of cooking – with a long workday, and a long commute, I just don’t have time for a lot of cooking (who feels like starting dinner at 10:00 PM?) Weekends are for all the errands, shopping, laundry, cleaning, etc, so there’s not a whole lot of time for cooking then, either.

I’d be happy to PM you some tips, if you’d like!

 

[Pug]

I don’t know if I could afford a private chef, but that sounds like exactly what I need!

I could really use one too. That is why I suggested it earlier in the thread. It really would fix some of my issues. I honestly think it would help some people.

 

[LSK]

What you did with your alcohol-abusing friends was somewhat different from the general case because you were abstaining yourself and because they had a history of inappropriate alcohol use in your home in the past. Your legitimate right to not have alcohol abused in your home was compounded by your personal need to avoid it at all costs. Even if they were not alcoholic, they should have been quick to honor your need to avoid contact with drunkenness. I would have put it “I will ask you to leave if you overindulge” and not “you will not be served”, but that would be different if I had never seen a single case in which they had used alcohol, had the opportunity to abuse it, and yet didn’t choose to do so. In that case, I would have said, “Until I see you use appropriately at an event I can leave if I need to, I will expect you to either abstain from drinking or abstain from coming.”

I’m guessing, but were they in denial about your need to abstain in the first place? I would bet that way.

Nope, they all knew I had stopped drinking - and why.
And I do not avoid alcohol at all costs - that is my point. In fact, if I had to avoid contact with all drunkenness I would not be able to be a member of my 12 Step program and help alcoholics who are still suffering. Nor would I be able to go out into the world. Believe it or not, you non-alcoholic people just cannot be trusted to do what I want you to do in order for me to stay sober. Darn you all anyway.

I told people BEFORE they set foot in my house that they would not be ‘over served’.

I did it privately - and I would very quietly pull a person aside when I saw that because of the way they were behaving they were not going to be served any more alcohol. I was also absolutely willing to take all the heat for making that decision for them - knowing, as I did, what an incredible sense of personal justice us drunks have - boy, oh boy do WE know when someone is abusing OUR rights as citizens to do whatever we want and the heck with all of you and your rights…

As I said before, if someone wants to do an intervention on someone who is morbidly obese then get professional guidance and BE WILLING to accept ALL the consequences of your actions. But to single someone out because of their SIZE, make them a distinct and seperate plate of food when they never ASKED you to do so or other wise treat them differently because by golly they are not the size you want them to be, it is causing YOU worry and you think it is a MORAL issue? Here’s a better idea - have the guts to tell them all that privately, to their face, and then let them decide if they want someone like you in their life…

 

[BLB_Oregon]

Nope, they all knew I had stopped drinking - and why.
And I do not avoid alcohol at all costs - that is my point. In fact, if I had to avoid contact with all drunkenness I would not be able to be a member of my 12 Step program and help alcoholics who are still suffering. Nor would I be able to go out into the world. Believe it or not, you non-alcoholic people just cannot be trusted to do what I want you to do in order for me to stay sober. Darn you all anyway.

I told people BEFORE they set foot in my house that they would not be ‘over served’.

I did it privately - and I would very quietly pull a person aside when I saw that because of the way they were behaving they were not going to be served any more alcohol. I was also absolutely willing to take all the heat for making that decision for them - knowing, as I did, what an incredible sense of personal justice us drunks have - boy, oh boy do WE know when someone is abusing OUR rights as citizens to do whatever we want and the heck with all of you and your rights…

As I said before, if someone wants to do an intervention on someone who is morbidly obese then get professional guidance and BE WILLING to accept ALL the consequences of your actions. But to single someone out because of their SIZE, make them a distinct and seperate plate of food when they never ASKED you to do so or other wise treat them differently because by golly they are not the size you want them to be, it is causing YOU worry and you think it is a MORAL issue? Here’s a better idea - have the guts to tell them all that privately, to their face, and then let them decide if they want someone like you in their life…

I think it is entirely right for hosts to put the stoppers on people who can’t control themselves enough to be polite. Getting drunk or making a pig of yourself is not polite, and anybody old enough to be their own cruise director can be expected to know that. People with a past track record deserve to have the boundaries explained as you did…and as you say, it is up to them to decide if they can function socially under the constraints of polite society, or whether they choose to.

 

[CarolAnnSFO]

I’d be happy to PM you some tips, if you’d like!

I’d love some tips! I usually don’t bother with the standard “healthy eating plans” I find out there – they all start with the same breakfast – cereal and a cup of skim milk. Hmmm, cereal and milk/soft cheese – two things I can’t eat. So I don’t bother reading the rest.

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