Occult symbols in Mormon temple!!!!

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Jay, 😃 duuude 😃 that was awsome. I was trying to find that exact chart (or something much like it:rolleyes: & could not. You are the scholar šŸ‘
 
I have NEVER seen anything like that! That Chart, I mean.
As a Mormon, I’ve seen charts like that often, but never produced by Mormons–only by people who want to misrepresent Mormon teachings. It has so many problems --like referring to a ā€œplanetā€ called ā€œKolobā€ as the residence of God. The word appears 5 times in LDS scripture and it’s described as a star near the throne of God. I’d like to know what the deal is with the line going from Mary to Beelzebub. The most surprising thing about that chart is that non-Mormons actually believe it represents Mormon theology. That’s just sad.

Alma
 
That’s more of a deception on the part of whoever produced the web page. It absolutely does not present what Mormonism teaches or believes.

Alma
byteline.blogspot.com
Admitting that I know absolutely NOTHING about Mormonism, however I do have a online friend. She has mentioned the Celestrial levels, wives of God and mothers to Spirit Children,etc. So, although I had never seen a chart some of the terminology sounds familiar, but she has never mention the planet in any of our conversations.

And that’s all I know.

Edit: Thanks for your post Alma. I must have posted as your were as well. šŸ‘
 
Mormons don’t believe that Christ was divine, so they don’t qualify as Christians.
Mormons do believe that Jesus was and is divine. The first page of the Book of Mormon states that the purpose of the book is to convince all that ā€œJesus is the Christ, THE ETERNAL GOD.ā€

Since Mormons do believe that Christ was divine they obviously qualify as Christians–unless you want to set up other criteria.

Alma
 
I recently learned that Mormons display occult symbols in their temples.:eek: I’ve always welcomed those who have knocked on my door. I love informing them of what catholics believe. This makes me very nervous though. I don’t think they realize the evil they are messing with, but satan does. Could I be letting in evil spirits that are attached to the missionaries because of their attendence at these temples? Should I bless my home with holy water before a visit? I hate to tell them to not come back. If anyone is knowlegdable about these things please let me know.
nauvoochristian.org/pagansymbols.htm

Regardless of the origin of the symbols (I know there is a debate that these symbols are not ā€œsatanicā€) the fact remains that a religion that wants to be seen as mainstream Christian, and believes in ā€œavoiding the appearance of evilā€ has inverted pentagrams on their buildings and on the newly remodled Nauvoo temple. A lot of people associate inverted pentagrams with satanic belief. And the other symbols are Masonic, from the early Mormon’s association with Masonry.
irr.org/mit/masonry.html

And as former Mormons, we believe that although some individual Mormons may be Christian, the belief system is not Christian. Pray for the missionaries.
 
It has so many problems --like referring to a ā€œplanetā€ called ā€œKolobā€ as the residence of God.
Well that’s odd. Every mormon I have spoken too has confirmed this. I would ask because I found it strange. I wanted to know if it was true. You are saying it’s not?
 
Since Mormons do believe that Christ was divine they obviously qualify as Christians–unless you want to set up other criteria.
Satan, too, believes Christ is divine… so I guess that obviously qualifies him as Christian :confused: ? Clearly, there is more to being Christian than just believing in Christ’s divinity (a criterion which of course excludes Jehovah’s Witnesses from being counted as Christians); I would say that the Nicene Creed provides a pretty good starting point!

Mormons hold to some pretty distinctive beliefs which are beyond what Mark Shea calls ā€œrock-bottom, non-negotiable, grade A, can’t-do-without-'em beliefsā€ of Christianity (see mark-shea.com/6.html). To begin with, all Christians believe that public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle; Mormonism explicitly denies this. Also, there are still some Latter Day Saint denominations which practice plural marriage even though the official church abandoned the practice in 1890.

Here are some links which go into greater detail (some of these were referenced above):
Distinctive Beliefs of the Mormon Church
The Gods of the Mormon Church
Mormon Stumpers
Mormonism’s Baptism for the Dead
 
It has so many problems --like referring to a ā€œplanetā€ called ā€œKolobā€ as the residence of God.
Well, doesnt the Mormon god live on another planet? I’ve been told that by every mormon missionary that has knocked on my door. The name Kolob does sound right from what I was told. Where does god live? I’d like to correct the missionaries that are coming back to my home Sunday.
 
Clearly, there is more to being Christian than just believing in Christ’s divinity. I would say that the Nicene Creed provides a pretty good starting point!

To begin with, all Christians believe that public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle; Mormonism explicitly denies this.
Interesting criteria. Acceptance of the Nicene Creed is a good starting point, even though it was drafted 300 years after revelation ceased? Isn’t that incredibly inconsistent? The book of Revelation foretells two prophets who will yet prophesy in Jerusalem. Wouldn’t the same standard thereby exclude the author of Revelation from being a Christian --since he too believed that revelation would continue?

Acts tells us that disciples were called ā€œChristiansā€ first at Antioch. It seems to me then that all you need to do is determine what a ā€œdiscipleā€ is. I would say someone who accepts Jesus Christ as the Son of God and wants to learn of Him is a disciple–and the Nicene Creed has little if anything to do with who is a Christian.

Of course, we shouldn’t be surprised that Jesus’ comments are established: ā€œā€¦and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evilā€¦ā€ (Luke 6:22)

Alma
 
JAY29 I saw the flack you got from your chart :mad: That is the price one pays for exposing error. In my book ya done good:thumbsup: . Thanks for posting it.
 
I recently learned that Mormons display occult symbols in their temples.:eek: I’ve always welcomed those who have knocked on my door. I love informing them of what catholics believe. This makes me very nervous though. I don’t think they realize the evil they are messing with, but satan does. Could I be letting in evil spirits that are attached to the missionaries because of their attendence at these temples? Should I bless my home with holy water before a visit? I hate to tell them to not come back. If anyone is knowlegdable about these things please let me know.
Call in the Ghost Busters! 😃

zerinus
 
Call in the Ghost Busters!
Hi, you can have fun šŸ˜› Just wondering though. Do you deny that there are evil spirits in the world who hate humans and wish for our damnation?
 
Well, doesn’t the Mormon god live on another planet?
I’m not aware of any scripture teaching that God ā€œlives on a planet.ā€ Anything outside of scripture would be nothing more than speculation.
I’ve been told that by every mormon missionary that has knocked on my door.
Every Mormon missionary? That sure seems odd to me. Is this because you ask each one you meet about Kolob?
The name Kolob does sound right from what I was told. Where does god live? I’d like to correct the missionaries that are coming back to my home Sunday.
Here is the LDS scripture that references ā€œKolob.ā€ You tell me whether or not it says God lives on it:

ā€œAnd I saw the stars, that they were very great, and that one of them was nearest unto the throne of God; and there were many great ones which were near unto it; And the Lord said unto me: These are the governing ones; and the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all those which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest.ā€ (Abraham 3:2-3)

Alma
 
I think that is unfair. The Mormons I have known do, indeed, believe in Christ. Isn’t that what a Christian is? Many religions believe in Christ even if it is not in the same sense that we Catholics do.
The Christ Mormons believe in isn’t the Biblical Christ. The Mormon Christ is only the Messiah because he got more votes than satan did at the ā€œcouncil of the godsā€. The Biblical Christ is God in human form, and didn’t need other ā€˜gods’ to select him to atone for us.
 
Every Mormon missionary? That sure seems odd to me. Is this because you ask each one you meet about Kolob?
I learned that Mormons believed that god lived on another planet. I asked if it was true. Each one has said yes. Kolob was mentioned but I did’nt remember exactly what it had to do with. If it was the planets name or not. From the ā€œscriptureā€ verse it sounds like Kolob is a star. That would indicate outerspace to me. So far there have been 8 mormons that have visited me. That’s guite a few who confirm that the mormon god DOES live on another planet.
 
I learned that Mormons believed that god lived on another planet. I asked if it was true. Each one has said yes. Kolob was mentioned but I did’nt remember exactly what it had to do with. If it was the planets name or not. From the ā€œscriptureā€ verse it sounds like Kolob is a star. That would indicate outerspace to me. So far there have been 8 mormons that have visited me. That’s guite a few who confirm that the mormon god DOES live on another planet.
All right, try this. When the missionaries come on Sunday, ask them to show you a scripture that says God lives on another planet. When they can’t, ask them if something that isn’t scriptural can be considered doctrinal?

The answer is, ā€œNo.ā€ If it isn’t part of the canon, it isn’t doctrine. If they do show you Abraham 3, ask them if it teaches God lives on a planet named Kolob or if Kolob is a star near God’s throne. You’ll find out that the point I’m making is right and the chart posted above of alleged Mormon belief is basically worthless (except for misinformation purposes.)

Alma
 
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