Ohio Catholic teacher "Channels" spirit of Padre Pio

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Please see this story.
**Toledo Woman uses ‘gift’ of channeling
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**Dottie Zimmerman is a 63-year-old mother of three, an award-winning religion teacher at a Toledo Catholic school, a former Ursuline nun, and a director of the Children’s Theatre Workshop.
For the last five years, Mrs. Zimmerman also says she has been “channeling” Padre Pio, letting the dead Italian Catholic saint mystically speak through her.
It is a “gift,” she said, and although she never asked for it she believes she must use it to help others, especially children.
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Last month, Mrs. Zimmerman channeled the saint during a meeting of the Toledo Lightworkers Co-op, a group of people who explore alternative spirituality.
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Full story here.

Here is what the Catechism says about what she is doing.
2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.
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Code: 
                                                                                       2117 All practices of *magic* or *sorcery,* by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one's service and have a supernatural power over others -- even if this were for the sake of restoring their health -- are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. *Spiritism* often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another's credulity.
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This is so wrong. She should be dismissed from her post as a teacher at her Catholic school, her pastor and the bishop should be notified. If, after counseling with the bishop, she refuses to recant and repent, she should be formally excommunicated. In either case, she should be immediately interdicted!
 
I read it. If it is so wrong, then why is Padre Pio and the “angels” encouraging it?

Shouldn’t Padre Pio be in heaven? Why does he act so human? It says he’s humorous. But why? Is the an “after-life” quality we take to Heaven? I wouldn’t think so.
 
catholic1seeks said:
I read it. If it is so wrong, then why is Padre Pio and the “angels” encouraging it?

Shouldn’t Padre Pio be in heaven? Why does he act so human? It says he’s humorous. But why? Is the an “after-life” quality we take to Heaven? I wouldn’t think so.
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That would be because it is not of Heavenly origin. She it either a fraud or under demonic influence. A psychiatric illness could fall into either of these two categories.
 
rpp said:
That would be because it is not of Heavenly origin. She it either a fraud or under demonic influence. A psychiatric illness could fall into either of these two categories.
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But if it is demonic influence, why? Wouldn’t there be a certainty and peacefulness if this was of God?

But, once again, what’s he doing on Earth?

Regarding the Sept. 11, 2001, tragedy, Mrs. Zimmerman said while channeling that everyone who “transitioned” that day went immediately “home,” or into heaven, “including those who perpetrated this particular incident. They didn’t have their 21 virgins in their party but they were celebrated for three days in partying and love and acceptance because they did what they thought they were supposed to do.”

–no purgatory at all??
 
catholic1seeks said:
But if it is demonic influence, why? Wouldn’t there be a certainty and peacefulness if this was of God?

But, once again, what’s he doing on Earth?

Regarding the Sept. 11, 2001, tragedy, Mrs. Zimmerman said while channeling that everyone who “transitioned” that day went immediately “home,” or into heaven, “including those who perpetrated this particular incident. They didn’t have their 21 virgins in their party but they were celebrated for three days in partying and love and acceptance because they did what they thought they were supposed to do.”

–no purgatory at all??
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Do you have a point?
 
It is obviously demonic. Padre Pio or his 'spirit’ would never encourage alternative spirituality.

Even the saints have been tricked by Satan. Once St. Gemma went to confession & although the man appeared to be her regular confessor his ‘advice’ was so bizarre that Gemma suspect it was a demon in disguise. Her guardian angel later confirmed this.

This demented/deluded woman needs help.
 
tobbias88 said:
Once St. Gemma went to confession & although the man appeared to be her regular confessor his ‘advice’ was so bizarre that Gemma suspect it was a demon in disguise. Her guardian angel later confirmed this.
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Why doesn’t this stuff ever happen to everyday people? "Demons in disguise"
 
catholic1seeks said:
🤷 …I’m trying to take note of the validity of the article…🤷
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Careful, if you are any more open-minded, your brains will fall out.

There is no validity to what the woman is doing. The messages do not point people to Christ and do not help people to avoid sin or grow closer to God. Padre Pio would never behave this way.
 
Holy Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do you, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Guardian Angel, watch over those whose names you can read in my heart. Guard over them with every care and make their way easy and their labours fruitful. Dry their tears if they weep; sanctify their joys; raise their courage if they weaken; restore their hope if they lose heart, their health if they be ill, truth if they err, repentance if they fail.
 
catholic1seeks said:
But if it is demonic influence, why? Wouldn’t there be a certainty and peacefulness if this was of God?
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Because that is exactly how demonic deceptions work, by convincing a person that a grave sin is a good thing. A demon’s goal is to do whatever it takes to get a person to go to Hell. Remember Satan can appear as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).

God is not going to allow purgatorial souls, the saints or the holy angels to come through in a channeling situation, going against what He has commanded through the Church and through Scripture. If what is going on is against what the Church teaches, there can be no doubt that it is NOT from God.
tobbias88 said:
It is obviously demonic. Padre Pio or his 'spirit’ would never encourage alternative spirituality.
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:amen:
 
Read the article the woman is so obviously loopey…Not only Padre Pio but Merlin, her mum & husband (deceased) & St. Michael all get in on the act.

Demon(Pio)speaking of 9/11 bombers says:

They didn’t have their 21 virgins in their party but they were celebrated for three days in partying and love and acceptance because they did what they thought they were supposed to do."

I presume that was about their arrival in Hell.

How can any sane person (RC or not) waste people’s time on such drivel?
 
My question is this, why is she still a teacher of religion at St. Patrick’s…she should be dismissed.
 
Last month, Mrs. Zimmerman channeled the saint during a meeting of the Toledo Lightworkers Co-op, a group of people who explore alternative spirituality.

It took a word from her adopted daughter, K.C., now 16 years old, and guidance from her younger brother, Jim Uhl, a psychologist and ex-Jesuit priest, to push her into taking the next step.

“It’s like the Prime Directive from Star Trek,” she said

*The first time she attempted to channel, Mr. Uhl began by performing a ceremony with incense and chanting, Mrs. Zimmerman said.

“He was blessing and incensing the west and the east and all that and I hear this voice say, 'Tell him just to get on with it! We don’t need all this ceremony! And so I started laughing and Jim said, ‘What’s so funny?’ … and I said, Padre Pio said, ‘Let’s just get on with it.’•”*

me thinks someone has lost their way…

I did find it funny that they mentioned she was named the outstanding teacher in the 19-county Toledo Catholic Diocese…in 1981.😃
 
Yerusalyim said:
My question is this, why is she still a teacher of religion at St. Patrick’s…she should be dismissed.
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I have been notified by a friend who has a child in her school that she has indeed been dismissed from her teaching position. Furthermore, she was apparently dismissed for reasons that had nothing to do with her “hobby” described in the article. Apparently, she abused (physically and verbally, not sexually) a few students too many.
 
Christophorus72 said:
I did find it funny that they mentioned she was named the outstanding teacher in the 19-county Toledo Catholic Diocese…in 1981.😃
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I think she won the award before she had the head injury. 😉

(This is a joke. I do not know if she ever suffered a head injury.)
 
rpp said:
I think she won the award before she had the head injury. 😉

(This is a joke. I do not know if she ever suffered a head injury.)
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perhaps it was aliens.

sorry, with the Star Trek reference, I couldn’t resist.
 
Attributing this stuff to Padre Pio is insulting 😦

I’m glad people see through it. I pray no one falls for it.
 
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