OK to remove poster from public bulletin board you disagree with, or not?

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Caesar said:
Fine! I’m sorry I took down the poster! If it makes you feel better they put another one up.
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Hey Caesar, I think we all decided that it’s ok to remove it if it’s not on a bulletin board. Like Shirley says, if it’s on a bulletin board she’ll leave it.

Maybe the manager of your apt can provide a community bulletin board. That would be neat!🙂 Maybe you can be proactive and start something positive!👍
 
Sir_Knight said:
And as Saul.Tentmaker was kind enough to point out for us, the law of God tells us to obey civil authority so by disobeying civil authority, you are also disobeying the law of God.
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So, the Nazis tell you that you as a citizen of Germany must report any Jews you know to be hiding. You are sinning if you do not?

Abortion is legal. So if I try to talk someone out of getting an abortion I’m committing a sin?
 
Caesar said:
Fine! I’m sorry I took down the poster! If it makes you feel better they put another one up.
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No, don’t do that. As you can tell by reading this thread, there are a lot of different opinions on this, and I don’t think that any of us have reached a complete concensus on how to handle things like this. I think that what you did essentially came out of the goodness of your heart, and I would never belittle you, or anyone else for doing that.

That being said, I think that I agree with Sailboat (and don’t get too smug, Sailboat) that in a free democacy, we need to be tolerant of other religious viewpoints, even if we disagree with them. It’s not always easy, either. I think that the best way to correct error is to teach and lead by example. Unfortunatly, I think not allowing other people to express their own ideas only leads to further misunderstandings and mistrust; it adds fuel to the fires of intolerance.
 
TimOliv said:
Abortion is legal. So if I try to talk someone out of getting an abortion I’m committing a sin?
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There is a difference between TALKING and TAKING ACTION to prevent someone from getting an abortion.

If you TAKE ACTION to prevent someone from getting an abortion AGAINST their will, you MAY indeed be committing a sin. DEPENDING on the type of ACTION that you take, you MAY even be committing a mortal sin and placing your own soul at risk.
 
I do want to point out that in the original thread, Caesar said they DID have a public bulletin board in the mailroom of the building, which he said then and which I said ^ up there as well. Don’t you hate it when people don’t read all the posts?
 
shirleytowers said:
I do want to point out that in the original thread, Caesar said they DID have a public bulletin board in the mailroom of the building, which he said then and which I said ^ up there as well. Don’t you hate it when people don’t read all the posts?
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Yes, I surely do. :mad:

Now what mailroom and building is this about, and what happened there? 😃

Alan
 
interfere with other people’s announcements on public bulletin boards? no, not as a rule.
but, on the backs of toilet doors, in random public places like telegraph poles or corridors not for the use of advertising, yes. yes yes yes.

something freaky happened to me in my first year of college. one day all over campus a certain satanic group had put up advertisements for a black mass to be held on campus and on their sign they had written a curse specifically against those who removed the flyers. it was disturbing to say the least.
I debated about whether there was a certain moral duty for me to remove them or if i was meant to leave them. Then I decided to remove one (yes i did stupidly feel a little anxious about the threat from satan but I reasoned that God is far more powerful and that I was acting for Him) so yes, I took it down (in front of other people) and destroyed it. Strangely that afternoon I did not see any other flyer like that again- not even where they were before. I felt from then on that I had been given a sign to stand up for the truth where I can, and if that means removing offensive material, then that is what I do… as long as it is in a space that I have as much right over as others do (and not a board belonging to someone in particular).
 
laurenzia said:
interfere with other people’s announcements on public bulletin boards? no, not as a rule.
but, on the backs of toilet doors, in random public places like telegraph poles or corridors not for the use of advertising, yes. yes yes yes.

something freaky happened to me in my first year of college. one day all over campus a certain satanic group had put up advertisements for a black mass to be held on campus and on their sign they had written a curse specifically against those who removed the flyers. it was disturbing to say the least.
I debated about whether there was a certain moral duty for me to remove them or if i was meant to leave them. Then I decided to remove one (yes i did stupidly feel a little anxious about the threat from satan but I reasoned that God is far more powerful and that I was acting for Him) so yes, I took it down (in front of other people) and destroyed it. Strangely that afternoon I did not see any other flyer like that again- not even where they were before. I felt from then on that I had been given a sign to stand up for the truth where I can, and if that means removing offensive material, then that is what I do… as long as it is in a space that I have as much right over as others do (and not a board belonging to someone in particular).
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Very funny you should mention something like this. When I was stationed in Sicily, a Wiccan Group (or coven or whatever) gained the right to use the chapel for their services once a week. SO…they decided that a great way to drum up business was to print out flyers and stick two of them (each hallways door led to two apartments for us single folks) under EVERY door in the barracks. Now that was a no questions asked removal and complaint.

For the bulletin board, honestly, an astral projection flyer I probably wouldn’t give a second glance. Anything that was decidedly pagan or even one of these obnoxious Da Vinci Code groups where you get together and bash the church, that I would remove.
 
Liberalsaved said:
Off-topic, but where do you make those?
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When you go to post, look up at the different tag icons, right above your writing screen. You’ll see the one to post links, pictures, quotes, etc. To the far right, right above the smilies, is an icon with a little guy holding a wee sign.

You can click on it, then you can click on any font size, font color, style, etc, inside the tags for the sign. That makes it more fun.

[SIGN]It’s fun and easy![/SIGN]
 
[SIGN]Lost your way? Just follow the Son![/SIGN]

… Neat! Thanks for sharing 👍
 
Reepicheep said:
But people do.

How would you react if someone removed your posts from this forum because they disagree with you and “error has no rights”?
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Actually, if I were to post to a Web forum and have my post removed, I’d respect the right of the person who owned the site. One’s right to speak freely does not obligate others to participate in making that speech heard.

As for a community bulletin board, for the most part I would say it was up to whomever owns the board to decide what the rules for participation are. If I didn’t like something, I could always post a rebuttal. But, if the thing posted was something that no one has a right to do – promoting an abortion clinic or something heinous like that – I don’t see where I violate anyone’s rights by tearing down their sign. But, if tearing down the sign would require me to break a glass case around the board, I might not feel justified in destroying it, as it would prevent the board from being used for any purpose at all. Just tearing down a sign that couldn’t possibly serve any good purpose is not harmful to anyone.
 
Sir_Knight said:
So, what about those who are under the mistaken notion that the Pope is the anti-Christ, we worship Mary and pray to statues and that the Catholic Church is leading it’s followers to hell. Based on what you said, can I conclude that you would have no problem if they came to your church, took down things from the bulletin board and disrupted things in THEIR attempt to save YOU from what THEY THINK is sin?
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No, it has nothing to do with what one thinks is right but what is objectively true. The point you cite has no effect because it is false. What I said in my previous posts is that “error has no rights” but truth does.
 
Saul.Tentmaker said:
Does God allow us true freedom, since he does allow us choice which is against the good?

He does allow us to sin, after all…
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He permits it but does not directly will it. I explained this briefly in the post you partly quoted.
 
Sailboat said:
Right on Brother, preach it! I’m in total agreement. We have to be commited to free expression, even when we don’t agree, that’s the basis for a free country!
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But it is not the position of the Church.
 
mosher said:
But it is not the position of the Church.
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And once again…the Law of God supercedes the Law of Man.

Now, before Sir Knight comes back with one of his eloquent “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”-esque rants about free speech and respect. Let’s break it down like this.

You will note that my position is extremely one sided. The reason for this is, I do not care if Protestants, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Atheists or Golden Unicorns respect my religion. I do not rely on the respect of false religions to continue worshipping in mine.

That being said, if I found a flyer which was detrimental to the souls of my fellow humans, I would remove it.

Now, Sir Knight will most likely retort with something about the Law of God calling for me to obey the law of man.

I see no law which tells me I cannot remove things from a public bulletin board.

Also, the law of God, i.e. the first commandment, supercedes any civil law which, due to its secular nature, would indirectly be used to promote a religion which draws people away from God.

Just because something is legal, does not mean it is moral. Just because something is illegal, does not mean it is immoral.
 
mosher said:
No, it has nothing to do with what one thinks is right but what is objectively true. The point you cite has no effect because it is false. What I said in my previous posts is that “error has no rights” but truth does.
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But they do not realize that it is false. Therefore, they would operate under the same rules.
 
Sir_Knight said:
But they do not realize that it is false. Therefore, they would operate under the same rules.
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Yes, they could, and were this an issue of constitutional rights or this country being a “free” country, you would be 100% correct. However, we are not taking this stand from the secular standpoint of a civil rights activist. We are siding with the teachings of the church.

If a Baptist removed my poster, I’d put up another one.

And by the way, I doubt the Baptist would care so much about my poster if there was a pagan one right beside it.
 
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