Old Catholic Mass Books Should Be Burned or Buried

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Rascalking said:
I agree! Since I firmly believe that the Catholic Church is the truth, what is there to hide? Let people read what they want!
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Its not a matter of hiding its a matter of moving on. Whats the historical value of these things? There is none
 
ignatius777 said:
Its not a matter of hiding its a matter of moving on. Whats the historical value of these things? There is none
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I disagree completely. It’s a matter of control. Sometimes certain types of people want to control what others do. Burning books is a disturbing way of exercising that control.
 
Oh heavens no…the purpose of burning them isn’t to control the people or to hide what was written in the old ones! Sheesh! Where on earth did you ever get that idea?

Burning is a respectful method of disposal, as was mentioned in one of the posts previously. Blessed items are burned so that they don’t end up in a landfill along with decomposing food or dead animals. The ashes are then used to bless the faithful on Ash Wednesday.

I doubt that there’s a priest in the country that would try to wrest the old missal from a parishoner in order to squelch the old Mass. We’re free to keep them and read them for as long as we want. They’re only trying to prevent them from disrespectful disposal.
 
creole54 said:
Oh heavens no…the purpose of burning them isn’t to control the people or to hide what was written in the old ones! Sheesh! Where on earth did you ever get that idea?
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So, when everyone else burned books throughout history, they where trying too…respectfully bury them?

It’s pretty simple where I got that idea…
 
In the possibility that these items do become sacred; shouldn’t the Church have some form of recycling rubric?

It would be a shame to cut down trees to replace paper that was burnt or buried. IMNAAHO.

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Rascalking said:
I disagree completely. It’s a matter of control. Sometimes certain types of people want to control what others do. Burning books is a disturbing way of exercising that control.
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I think you are mixing up matters here. They arent being burned so people cant read them they are being burned since they are no longer usable and its a respectful way of disposing of them.
 
ignatius777 said:
I think you are mixing up matters here. They arent being burned so people cant read them they are being burned since they are no longer usable and its a respectful way of disposing of them.
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Why they are being burned is irrelevant-they are being burned. That’s wrong.
 
DCNBILL said:
I prefer the idea of burying them with the deceased.
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If anyone tries to bury one of the old missals with me, I will haunt them for the rest of their natural lives!

Seriously though I think they should be kept for reference in parish libraries, or if they are beyond further use they should be burned respectfully as one would with any other blessed object that has outlived it purpose.
 
ignatius 777 said:
Its not a matter of hiding its a matter of moving on. Whats the historical value of these things? There is none
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Respectfully I beg to differ. The Catholic Church would be nothing today if it were not for her rich Treasured History and Traditions. The very foundations of the Church are built on all historic aspects of the Church. IMHO I see nothing of any account being wasted especially for those who are seriously interested in studying the history of the Church.

I would have felt privileged to enter the Vatican archives and study some of the archives in person.
 
ignatius777 said:
I think you are mixing up matters here. They arent being burned so people cant read them they are being burned since they are no longer usable and its a respectful way of disposing of them.
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Burning seems somewhat archaic to me, too. People didn’t have recycling in the past 2000 years so burning was the best way (provided light and heat). Now we know that buring paper (which now has clay and other chemicals in it) is fairly hazerdous.

Also, to set about burning all copies IS very controlling. Like it or not for the past 50 some odd years we have used this translation. Preserving some…especally those with sentmental value…is pivitoal to the future of the church.

I belive what the anti-burning people are getting at…besides the fact that burning is a social no-no…is that it is BAD to clear out that knowlege. We did this. We shouldn’t be ashamed or embarrassed. We shouldn’t try to hide it. This was and IS part of our Catholic identity. I will miss the “Christ has died, Christ has risien, Christ will come again”. It brings me back to being a small child in Mass and hearing the glory of the choir with the bells and the guitars, flutes, sax, bongo drums, claves, tamborine and organ. YOU don’t have to like it, but you DO have to respect my personal history…and that of the hundreds of thousands of people who feel the same way.

Burning a book dosn’t mean that it will never be rememebred.
 
Theophorus said:
If anyone tries to bury one of the old missals with me, I will haunt them for the rest of their natural lives!

Seriously though I think they should be kept for reference in parish libraries, or if they are beyond further use they should be burned respectfully as one would with any other blessed object that has outlived it purpose.
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Note that this would be done by request only. Many people are buried with rosaries, Bibles and other sacred objects so if a person has a particular devotion to the Mass why not bury them with one of the Liturgical Texts if they wish?
 
ignatius777 said:
Of course it makes a difference. Whats wrong with you?
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In all my time here I have yet to encounter a more charming, polite, charitiable and classy response than your “what is wrong with you” . Keep it up. It’s a sure way to win friends.
 
Thanks :mad: (in good humor)

I now have the persistent fear that when the day comes for my funeral Mass, several Parish workers will have their revenge by loading my coffin with all the Gather (Comprehensive) hymnals that can be crammed in.

Not that I think they would, but… :whistle:
 
There should be a business that collects bibles and liturgical books to be recycled into new ones so the sacred texts aren’t thrown in the trash.
 
Rascalking said:
In all my time here I have yet to encounter a more charming, polite, charitiable and classy response than your “what is wrong with you” . Keep it up. It’s a sure way to win friends.
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Sarcasm isn’t a whole lot better…

God bless y’all (everybody). Remember, it’s all penance!

ICXC NIKA
 
I have a pre Vatican II personal St. Joseph’s Missal plus the Lectionary and Roman Missal that was used on the altar before Vatican II and there is no way I am getting rid of them. They are precious to me. I refer to them often.
 
DCNBILL said:
Note that this would be done by request only. Many people are buried with rosaries, Bibles and other sacred objects so if a person has a particular devotion to the Mass why not bury them with one of the Liturgical Texts if they wish?
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I know it would be by request only, it was but an attempt at humour. If people wish to be buried with the old translation that’s fine by me.
 
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