Omitting Gloria Patri in Rosary during Passiontide

[LiturgyGuy]

*** Say Whaaaat?!!***

Peace, Mark

That is what Clare is implying.

 

[dshix]

That is what Clare is implying.

I’m not sure what train of thought you took to reach that conclusion, but it is not logically valid. I exclusively attend the Extraordinary Form of the Latin Mass myself, and I completely disagree with you that anything pianistclare said implies that “God does not favor the Tridentine Mass” or that she is “going against the Tridentine Mass”.

 

[LiturgyGuy]

I’m not sure what train of thought you took to reach that conclusion, but it is not logically valid. I exclusively attend the Extraordinary Form of the Latin Mass myself, and I completely disagree with you that anything pianistclare said implies that “God does not favor the Tridentine Mass” or that she is “going against the Tridentine Mass”.

She said that God does not favor prayers omitted, which the Tridentine Mass does.

 

[dshix]

She said that God does not favor prayers omitted, which the Tridentine Mass does.

But that doesn’t logically mean that she is saying God doesn’t favor the Tridentine Mass… it is out of the context of her statement.

 

[LiturgyGuy]

But that doesn’t logically mean that she is saying God doesn’t favor the Tridentine Mass… it is out of the context of her statement.

No it’s not, because if the Tridentine Mass can do it and it’s totally fine, then it can be done in the rosary, and God won’t not favor the omission.

 

[dshix]

No it’s not, because if the Tridentine Mass can do it and it’s totally fine, then it can be done in the rosary, and God won’t not favor the omission.

It is done in the Extraordinary Form of the mass in the context of the liturgy and the rubrics set for the mass. The rosary does not share that context.

I think that statement alone makes the truth manifestly clear, along with all of the other posts in this thread supporting it, so I have nothing further to say.

Any further posts on my part attempting to make the same point again and again are just a waste of my time, so I’m done here.

 

[LiturgyGuy]

It is done in the Extraordinary Form of the mass in the context of the liturgy and the rubrics set for the mass. The rosary does not share that context.

I think that statement alone makes the truth manifestly clear, along with all of the other posts in this thread supporting it, so I have nothing further to say.

Any further posts on my part attempting to make the same point again and again are just a waste of my time, so I’m done here.

Whose statement?

 

[Confiteor_Deo]

I still say the Gloria Patri in the rosary and in the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin since it is not omitted in the Divine Office, as far as I know.

 

[LiturgyGuy]

I still say the Gloria Patri in the rosary and in the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin since it is not omitted in the Divine Office, as far as I know.

It’s not omitted in the OF office, but it is in the EF and Anglican Use, and since I use one of those, I omit it in the Rosary as well.

 

[OraLabora]

I still say the Gloria Patri in the rosary and in the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin since it is not omitted in the Divine Office, as far as I know.

From the 1934 Monastic Antiphonary concerning the Triduum:

Hoc triduo, ad omnes Horas usque ad Nonam Sabbati Sancti inclusive, Captilum, R. Breve et Hymnus non dicituntur, et in fine Psalmorum omittur Gloria Patri.

Rough translation: “During the Triduum at all Hours up to None on Holy Saturday inclusively, the lesson, responsory and hymn are not said, and at the end of the psalms the Gloria Patri is to be omitted.”

 

[Mark121359]

She said that God does not favor prayers omitted, which the Tridentine Mass does.

I attend both the EF and the OF Mass, and I’m with dshix. In no way, shape, or form were pianistclare or tawny saying anything negative towards the EF Mass. So I would let it drop.

Peace, Mark

 

[Confiteor_Deo]

It’s not omitted in the OF office, but it is in the EF and Anglican Use, and since I use one of those, I omit it in the Rosary as well.

Yes, but I was speaking about the traditional Divine Office during Passiontide since that is what your question was about. It is omitted during the Sacred Triduum, as OraLabora pointed out, but not during Passiontide.

 

[sirach2v4]

Traditionally, the Glory Be is omitted in the Mass during Passiontide, so why not the Rosary?

we don’t want to be control freaks about other’s spirituality. If you don’t want to say the traditional prayer, then don’t say it.

To me, the Glory Be prayer at the end of each decade is my thanksgiving for that mystery of the Rosary, the mystery in which God is glorified. In fact, I add a couple prayers at the end of each decade:

1. Glory Be…
2. Oh, my Jesus…
3. Oh Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.
4. Eternal rest grant unto my parents, Oh Lord, and may your perpetual rest shine upon them. May their souls and the souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace, Amen.