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Athanasiy
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It seems that there will be a new revolution, new maidan.
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The charismatic Saakashvili is in fact a new Maidan-leader.
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AlNg
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Russia is freer economically than Ukraine.Ukraine - 150-th place among 186 countries in the ranking of economic freedom, according to American research center Heritage Foundation.
Would it have been a whole lot better if there was no coup d’etat in the first place.It seems that there will be a new revolution, new maidan.
Did they kick him out of Georgia or did he leave because he wanted to? Why does Ukraine need someone from Georgia to lead the country? Aren’t there any reliable leaders from Ukraine?The charismatic Saakashvili is in fact a new Maidan-leader.
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Here several times, one of the main slogans of the Ukrainian revolution were the words - “prisons for the bandits”
The new authorities did not restrain their words, moreover, the authorities either agreed with the former bandits in power , or they themselves became no better than them.
Saakashvili was the only President in Eastern Europe that really put in jail a lot of corrupt officials.
Even people close to him were behind bars.
Sakashvili is not a socialist, he did not make Georgia a social country obviously, of course this is a man already tested in Washington, but his main achievement is that of Georgia which was ruled by “thieves in law” he made the country attractive to investors.
At Sakashvili all “thieves in law” as rats in fear ran abroad.
There is something in this charismatic-Iberian man capable of radical change.
The new authorities did not restrain their words, moreover, the authorities either agreed with the former bandits in power , or they themselves became no better than them.
Saakashvili was the only President in Eastern Europe that really put in jail a lot of corrupt officials.
Even people close to him were behind bars.
Sakashvili is not a socialist, he did not make Georgia a social country obviously, of course this is a man already tested in Washington, but his main achievement is that of Georgia which was ruled by “thieves in law” he made the country attractive to investors.
At Sakashvili all “thieves in law” as rats in fear ran abroad.
There is something in this charismatic-Iberian man capable of radical change.
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Did you forget that Saakashvili is wanted by Georgia’s new government on multiple criminal charges? Or that the General Prosecutor of Ukraine says he got dirty money from Yanukovych’s people?Sakashvili is not a socialist, he did not make Georgia a social country obviously, of course this is a man already tested in Washington, but his main achievement is that of Georgia which was ruled by “thieves in law” he made the country attractive to investors.
At Sakashvili all “thieves in law” as rats in fear ran abroad.
There is something in this charismatic-Iberian man capable of radical change.
Besides I thought that it was the pro-Euromaidan Poroshenko who was supposed to be honest and give Ukraine a new way to live in freedom and democracy without corruption? Now you want to exchange an honest Ukrainian President for a foreigner wanted on multiple criminal charges in his own country?
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Perhaps Sakashvili could win the courts in Georgia. I’m not sure he would have ended up behind bars in Georgia.
Thieves in law in the Caucasus was unbeatable caste before the arrival of Sakashvili as a countries president.
Saakashvili has arrested their properties and put in prisons, the same he did with the officials who were caught on bribes.
Investors invested openly and transparently in Georgia. Saakashvili paved the way for investors by reforming the justice system, police, courts. (so there were not many Russians among investors, bcz Russians prefer to buy under the table)
Georgian balneological resorts became recreation centers for foreigners (which is impossible to say about Abkhazia annexed by Russia)
To date, we do not have a radical capable of decisive steps.
Saakashvili looking like the leader that is rated to win, although Poroshenko took his Ukrainian citizenship.
Thieves in law in the Caucasus was unbeatable caste before the arrival of Sakashvili as a countries president.
Saakashvili has arrested their properties and put in prisons, the same he did with the officials who were caught on bribes.
Investors invested openly and transparently in Georgia. Saakashvili paved the way for investors by reforming the justice system, police, courts. (so there were not many Russians among investors, bcz Russians prefer to buy under the table)
Georgian balneological resorts became recreation centers for foreigners (which is impossible to say about Abkhazia annexed by Russia)
To date, we do not have a radical capable of decisive steps.
Saakashvili looking like the leader that is rated to win, although Poroshenko took his Ukrainian citizenship.
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Throwing governments out one by one is a sign of a healthy society.
I noticed that it is hard to create a national revolution if the media is not in the hands of the opposition.
Internet, Facebook, it is a good resources for the solidarity of the people, but there is the importance of television for the solidarity of the people.
If the channel is Pro-presidential, then the channel will not truthfully report events in the Central square, and so on, but if by the will of the people both the Parliament and the President resign, I think these are signs of a healthy freedom-loving society.
I noticed that it is hard to create a national revolution if the media is not in the hands of the opposition.
Internet, Facebook, it is a good resources for the solidarity of the people, but there is the importance of television for the solidarity of the people.
If the channel is Pro-presidential, then the channel will not truthfully report events in the Central square, and so on, but if by the will of the people both the Parliament and the President resign, I think these are signs of a healthy freedom-loving society.
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All of the Ukrainian revolutions took place peacefully.
Why the “revolution of dignity” was bloody it is necessary to ask the former and maybe even current people in power.
That night when at square has remained not so many students as before, it was then that someone needed the forceful dispersal of the Maidan.
For us , there are many question which no body can answer.
For example, in some hours prior to dispersal of the Maidan, Klitschko(candidate in the new government and today’s mayor of Kyiv) has suddenly taken his equipment off the stage.
At the time of dispersal of the Maidan suddenly from somewhere appeared television. Ukraine Channel-5(who belongs to Poroshenko)
What was the sense to put up a Christmas tree just then at 4: 00 in the morning?
From where suddenly, from the Crimea there was the military division “Berkut”?
I am outraged by the price which was later paid by the students.
Why did they have to shoot those kids?
Nobody still can’t answer these questions.
Some believe that the scenario was beneficial to those who are now in power, but what happened is what happened.
Freedom-loving Ukraine is not Russia , the Ukrainian people will not tolerate the despotic and corrupt government.
January 18 in Ukraine will be a new revolution, led by Saakashvili . The current President was given the opportunity to resign before that time.
Why the “revolution of dignity” was bloody it is necessary to ask the former and maybe even current people in power.
That night when at square has remained not so many students as before, it was then that someone needed the forceful dispersal of the Maidan.
For us , there are many question which no body can answer.
For example, in some hours prior to dispersal of the Maidan, Klitschko(candidate in the new government and today’s mayor of Kyiv) has suddenly taken his equipment off the stage.
At the time of dispersal of the Maidan suddenly from somewhere appeared television. Ukraine Channel-5(who belongs to Poroshenko)
What was the sense to put up a Christmas tree just then at 4: 00 in the morning?
From where suddenly, from the Crimea there was the military division “Berkut”?
I am outraged by the price which was later paid by the students.
Why did they have to shoot those kids?
Nobody still can’t answer these questions.
Some believe that the scenario was beneficial to those who are now in power, but what happened is what happened.
Freedom-loving Ukraine is not Russia , the Ukrainian people will not tolerate the despotic and corrupt government.
January 18 in Ukraine will be a new revolution, led by Saakashvili . The current President was given the opportunity to resign before that time.
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January 18 has passed and I don’t see the new revolution. BTW, I thought that Yatsenyuk was supposed to be the new hero and the man who would deliver Ukraine from corruption?January 18 in Ukraine will be a new revolution, led by Saakashvili .
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I mean the February 18
It will be a peaceful protest, rallies throughout Ukraine for the resignation of the President.
There are several good reasons why the President should resign.
One of the reasons it is the luxurious lifestyle and weekends that he allows himself against the backdrop of impoverishment of people, the second reason is that he has a business in Russia , while so many young people died in the war, аnd the third reason is that the new government has agreed with the old government for personal benefit. Basic figures from the environment of Yanukovych are not in jail but on the loose.
The people and the ruling elites live on different planets. Here-blood, tears, unbearable rise in price of life, and there at ruling elites the world of money and all-permissiveness.
It will be a peaceful protest, rallies throughout Ukraine for the resignation of the President.
There are several good reasons why the President should resign.
One of the reasons it is the luxurious lifestyle and weekends that he allows himself against the backdrop of impoverishment of people, the second reason is that he has a business in Russia , while so many young people died in the war, аnd the third reason is that the new government has agreed with the old government for personal benefit. Basic figures from the environment of Yanukovych are not in jail but on the loose.
The people and the ruling elites live on different planets. Here-blood, tears, unbearable rise in price of life, and there at ruling elites the world of money and all-permissiveness.
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Yatsenyuk is not an independent figure.
This guy from my city, by luck, got out of a dumpster to vimir power and a lot of money.
Of course none of the politicians is an independent figure, but Yatsenyuk compared to Saakashvili is just a weak-willed creature.
This guy from my city, by luck, got out of a dumpster to vimir power and a lot of money.
Of course none of the politicians is an independent figure, but Yatsenyuk compared to Saakashvili is just a weak-willed creature.
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Yes. I can’t figure out why the Americans liked him so much.Yatsenyuk is not an independent figure.
This guy from my city, by luck, got out of a dumpster to vimir power and a lot of money.
Of course none of the politicians is an independent figure, but Yatsenyuk compared to Saakashvili is just a weak-willed creature.
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For a person entering the path of politics , an important aspect is either he is Pro-American, Pro-European, or Pro-Kremlin, but what these new-sintered gentlemen need is to be Pro-national, and Pro-Ukrainian.
They will never be “the national heroes” if they only want to please Washington.
…and they will always be traitors to the people if they do what the Kremlin tells them.
They will never be “the national heroes” if they only want to please Washington.
…and they will always be traitors to the people if they do what the Kremlin tells them.
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I heard that Saakashvili was arrested in Ukraine by masked gunmen and deported to Poland. From there he flew to Holland.Thieves in law in the Caucasus was unbeatable caste before the arrival of Sakashvili as a countries president.
Saakashvili has arrested their properties and put in prisons, the same he did with the officials who were caught on bribes.
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This is not the first time he is arrested, but he does not belong to weak politicians.
Sakashvili had to testify at court about Yanukovych’s case of executions on the Maidan and on February 18 is scheduled revolution.
Saakashvili does not give up.
Sakashvili had to testify at court about Yanukovych’s case of executions on the Maidan and on February 18 is scheduled revolution.
Saakashvili does not give up.
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To be honest, his rhetoric is quite sharp and radical. He has a talent eloquently to demonize the government.
To be honest, I am not happy with Poroshenko, but this is my legitimate President, even if I do not like him.
(I won’t call Yanukovych the legitimate President because he ran away from the country as the last coward and the country was facing the civil war. I think that Turchinov saved the situation, and prevented even more clashes and regional separatism.(The Baptist pastor who for that time fulfilled temporary obligations of the chief in the country)
The sharp rhetoric of the demonization of today’s government is the tactic of Sakashvili who boldly goes forward.
I admit that Sakashvili has many supporters, including among the military, but we are a European country, may be we should wait until the next elections, although the people wishing to come to power, demanding the impeachment.
To be honest, I am not happy with Poroshenko, but this is my legitimate President, even if I do not like him.
(I won’t call Yanukovych the legitimate President because he ran away from the country as the last coward and the country was facing the civil war. I think that Turchinov saved the situation, and prevented even more clashes and regional separatism.(The Baptist pastor who for that time fulfilled temporary obligations of the chief in the country)
The sharp rhetoric of the demonization of today’s government is the tactic of Sakashvili who boldly goes forward.
I admit that Sakashvili has many supporters, including among the military, but we are a European country, may be we should wait until the next elections, although the people wishing to come to power, demanding the impeachment.
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Even if he can’t get across the border illegally, he has a team that has a lot of work to do without him.
I don’t trust old politicians such as Yulia Timoshenko, but there are new young people who perhaps will be able to do something.
Many people have sympathy for Sakashvili because in Georgia he really put in prisons of corruption officers, the country needs radicals, otherwise the period of stagnation will last for a hundred years more.
Ukraine, like Georgia, will not become more social or proletarian. Saakashvili is not a socialist, but he put the corrupt in prison, even the people from his environment.
Court reform, police reform, he had declared a successful war on criminality.
Saakashvili is not an impostor, he had the experience and the results.
Before his appearance, Georgia was ruled by a caste of “thieves in law”.
I don’t trust old politicians such as Yulia Timoshenko, but there are new young people who perhaps will be able to do something.
Many people have sympathy for Sakashvili because in Georgia he really put in prisons of corruption officers, the country needs radicals, otherwise the period of stagnation will last for a hundred years more.
Ukraine, like Georgia, will not become more social or proletarian. Saakashvili is not a socialist, but he put the corrupt in prison, even the people from his environment.
Court reform, police reform, he had declared a successful war on criminality.
Saakashvili is not an impostor, he had the experience and the results.
Before his appearance, Georgia was ruled by a caste of “thieves in law”.
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Yes, but it is time for Ukrainian George Washington to appear.
See, you’re also blaming Stepan Bandera, but it seems to me that Stepan Bandera would shoot those politicians who sell the country in exchange for the personal inviolability of assets in the West.
May be I do not understand until the end of today’s nationalists, but Bandera fighters which fought against German and Bolshevik imperialism, on philosophy was not only national-liberation but also socially - progressive.
The nationalist ideology of that time would never have reconciled with the fact that Ukraine will be forever in debt, that the most defenseless members of society will be thrown to the arbitrariness of the system of survival of the fittest.
In the last century when German and Bolshevism imperialism forcibly drove people to the steppes of Kazakstan, Siberia, Germany, and now people are voluntarily in record numbers are fleeing abroad to feed their families.
The opposition of national forces in 20th century was inevitable because some imperialist peoples enslaved others, now the nationalists are fighting the same enemies, but there are invisible and not understandable to them enemies.
It is not possible for simple Ukrainian Ivan or Vasily to see how rulers steal and launder billions of dollars, and throw people into poverty.
Here we need the help of external forces that would be interested in the prosperity of our state and not to use it in an imperialist sense as a dairy cow.
See, you’re also blaming Stepan Bandera, but it seems to me that Stepan Bandera would shoot those politicians who sell the country in exchange for the personal inviolability of assets in the West.
May be I do not understand until the end of today’s nationalists, but Bandera fighters which fought against German and Bolshevik imperialism, on philosophy was not only national-liberation but also socially - progressive.
The nationalist ideology of that time would never have reconciled with the fact that Ukraine will be forever in debt, that the most defenseless members of society will be thrown to the arbitrariness of the system of survival of the fittest.
In the last century when German and Bolshevism imperialism forcibly drove people to the steppes of Kazakstan, Siberia, Germany, and now people are voluntarily in record numbers are fleeing abroad to feed their families.
The opposition of national forces in 20th century was inevitable because some imperialist peoples enslaved others, now the nationalists are fighting the same enemies, but there are invisible and not understandable to them enemies.
It is not possible for simple Ukrainian Ivan or Vasily to see how rulers steal and launder billions of dollars, and throw people into poverty.
Here we need the help of external forces that would be interested in the prosperity of our state and not to use it in an imperialist sense as a dairy cow.
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There were some protests, but I don’t see where Petro Poroshenko has resigned.I mean the February 18
It will be a peaceful protest, rallies throughout Ukraine for the resignation of the President.
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