Once An Alcoholic, Always An Alcoholic?

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Another one here. August 19, 1990. IIn fact my father, and both of my brothers are sober as well. I went to daily meetings for 7 years along with therapy. I used to think that I owed my life to AA and my therapist but now I know that it is Jesus that I owe my life.
I became very stagnant in AA aftet that long and started getting depressed at listening to some of the same people still complain after a few years. I know that wasnt very charitable but I had to make a change. My chcange became going to daily Mass. Jesus and the Eucharist is my strength.

I dont suggest that anyone gives up AA meetings. This is my story, not yours.

LSK…I love listening to Clancy and Peg. Great stories.

BTW…I am always an alcoholic. When you quit drinking, you dont pick up where you left off if you take a drink. You pick up where you would be if you never had.

Even to this day, I think like an alcoholic…its natural, its what I do with that. When I go out with friends from church and they have a drink. I wonder why they are not having 20. That is my thinking, to this day.

good luck and GOd Bless
 
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puzzleannie:
Great idea about reading about Matt Talbot - do you know if there is any specific book about him? I know there is a website dedicated to the cause of his Cannonization…
To Slake a Thirst - The Matt Talbot Way to Sobriety
by Philip Maynard
ISBN: 0818908432

–mike
 
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VeronicasJude:
Another one here. August 19, 1990. IIn fact my father, and both of my brothers are sober as well. I went to daily meetings for 7 years along with therapy. I used to think that I owed my life to AA and my therapist but now I know that it is Jesus that I owe my life.
I became very stagnant in AA aftet that long and started getting depressed at listening to some of the same people still complain after a few years. I know that wasnt very charitable but I had to make a change. My chcange became going to daily Mass. Jesus and the Eucharist is my strength.

I dont suggest that anyone gives up AA meetings. This is my story, not yours.

LSK…I love listening to Clancy and Peg. Great stories.

BTW…I am always an alcoholic. When you quit drinking, you dont pick up where you left off if you take a drink. You pick up where you would be if you never had.

Even to this day, I think like an alcoholic…its natural, its what I do with that. When I go out with friends from church and they have a drink. I wonder why they are not having 20. That is my thinking, to this day.

good luck and GOd Bless
I am glad that I am not the only one who found this to be true. I went to daily meetings for 5 years and found that I was not happy. I started to go to adoration and pray the rosary. I started praying the chaplet of divine mercy and reading the scriptures.
I know that some are called to remain in AA so that they can sponser those who need it. This was not my calling. I pray for the souls on the journey. We are all called to our own vocation.

I would never want to even see if there is a cure. I would never want to trade the life I have for the life I left. My brother and cousin are also now sober.

I am busy raising my children. They go to school but I also supplement their education with some homeschooling.

This is my story and no one else can live my story.
 
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MommaKat:
Sparkle
To recieve a complete communion with our most Beloved Lord you only have to receive him in one species. That is what I meant. I don’t recieve the cup but I can distribute the cup when I a ministering at Mass.
Gotcha MommaKat! I have heard it said too, when I was in RCIA last year that Jesus was present in one form, either the bread or the wine, and that many churches only give one or the other. Thought this was weird at first, but I think I now understand it. 🙂
God Bless You MommaKat~~
 
Have to share this with you all - I spoke over the weekend at Arroyo Grande. The meeting was held in the Nave and Sacristy of St. Patrick’s Church there, and for the first time in my 'AA Career" (if you can call what we do a career) I was going to be telling my story in front of the Blessed Sacrament. I took my usual five minutes before the meeting started to ask for guidance - what do I do? Mindful of the traditions of AA, mindful of Him - well, I had previously been privilaged to share a podium with Don C., a sober Mohican who begins his pitch by burning sage, spreading it with an Eagle feather and then putting the feather on the podium and explaining to the meeting that in his religion whoever holds the eagle feather is bound to never lie when speaking. SO, when I approached the microphone, I genuflected, then introduced myself. I told the Don C. story and then pointed at the Tabernacle…“That is my Eagle feather, everybody” and told them that I believed that I was telling my story in front of the Body, Blood Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ. I did my pitch, blah blah blah…afterwards, several Catholics in the crowd thanked me for acknowledging where we were for the meeting.

The next morning, one of the members took me to Mass at the same Church. Bishop Ryan was celebrating the liturgy. The last time I had spoke at a conference for AA I had attended Mass at the local Church and he had been celebrating there also. I took advantage of the smaller crowd to introduce myself and tell him that this was my second time to have the privilige of receiving communion from him and why. He gave me a hug and told me his mother had been a long time, active member of AA and had died with 40 years of continuous sobriety.

And yes, I did float home thank you very much. If the 49rs had not gone on to HUMILIATE themselves INTERNATIONALLY I would say it was a perfect weekend…

us AA(s) are everywhere - and us Al-Anons are too!!!🙂
 
Dr. Laura doesn’t seem to be a very big fan of 12-step programs or the disease concept of addictions in general
 
Dr. Laura is in physology.
AA has been in existance since the Oxford Movement. AA was founded in 1922 and has worked since it started. If it works don’t fix it.
 
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Jim:
Dr. Laura doesn’t seem to be a very big fan of 12-step programs or the disease concept of addictions in general
Well, and no disrespect intended towards Dr. Laura, that’s kind of like saying someone who is not a diabetic is not a big fan of proper diet and insulin.

Alcoholism as a disease has been recognized as such for almost a century. And it has been suspected as such for much longer.

Look, the reality is AA and 12 step programs do not work for everyone. Even AA says that…and not everyone who comes into AA because they have a little problem with drinking too much once in awhile is a real alcoholic. The reality is, if it works for you do it. Like some of us have shared here, we were really very active in AA for awhile and now we aren’t and some are still very, VERY active in AA. I am, Mommakat is not, and Veronica is semi-active. The most important thing is we are abstinent from alcohol, we know who our higher power is and we all know where AA is if we need to go talk to another alcoholic about how to deal with being an ‘us’ in a world full of ‘them’ any time it is necessary.

God bless, Dr. Laura. She has helped a lot of people. But she ain’t one of us, so quite frankly who cares what she thinks.
 
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sparkle:
Oh and one very important thing I forgot to mention, that I would like to get some views on.
Do you think that Jesus Christ and having a strong faith can give a person all the power they need to overcome these types of things? I do.
The power, yes. But if alcohol abuse has done physical damage to the body (including the nervous system), then proper medical care is called for.

And of course, in those cases where something drove someone to use alcohol as an anodyne, then the underlying problem certainly needs attention, too.

Sometimes, God helps us both by giving us the power, and the helpers we need to bring it to bear. It can take a lot of work to get free of an alcohol abuse problem, and we’d be wrong not to use the helpers He sends us. Maybe a little vain, too, if we tried without them.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
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