One fine Catholic Study Bible

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Yes, I was lucky enough to find one in a used book store last year for, I think, about $5.00. I saw one a week later in the same store (but with a nicer cover) and almost ā€œliberatedā€ it, but by then I was over my budget for books. šŸ˜¦

I agree about the notes: they are just the right quantity, readability and helpfulness. The translation itself is much more readable and traditional as well. Here is a sample from the beginning of Hebrews:
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 last of all in these days has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the world; 3 who, being the brightness of his glory and the image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, has effected manā€™s purgation from sin and taken his seat at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much superior to the angels as he has inherited a more excellent name than they.
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And here are some footnotes from Romans 3:
3:20. It does not follow from St. Paulā€™s statement that no man is justified by the works of the law, that good works are not necessary for salvation. The justification of which St. Paul here speaks is the infusion of sanctifying grace which alone renders a person supernaturally pleasing in the sight of God. This cannot be obtained either by the observance of the law or by any other work of unregenerate man.
3:21. The justice of God through faith is not that holiness whereby God is just, but that grace which he imparts to the soul to make it really, intrinsically pleasing and holy in his sight. The necessary condition for obtaining the infusion of this divine gift is faith, not a bare speculative faith, but a practical faith which through the love of God effects the observance of the commandments and the performance of other good works.
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If only it were still available, it would put the NAB out of business pronto.:yup:
 
I think from here on out I am going to recommend this one to those who ask about study Bibles. Fortunately with the internet you can usually find anything you want, and for this price you just canā€™t beat it
 
šŸ˜Š I messed up the Romans 3 footnotes above. Here they are again:
3:20. It does not follow from St. Paulā€™s statement that no man is justified by the works of the law, that good works are not necessary for salvation. The justification of which St. Paul here speaks is the infusion of sanctifying grace which alone renders a person supernaturally pleasing in the sight of God. This cannot be obtained either by the observance of the law or by any other work of unregenerate man.
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3:21. The justice of God through faith is not that holiness whereby God is just, but that grace which he imparts to the soul to make it really, intrinsically pleasing and holy in his sight. The necessary condition for obtaining the infusion of this divine gift is faith, not a bare speculative faith, but a practical faith which through the love of God effects the observance of the commandments and the performance of other good works.
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COPLAND_3 said:
I think from here on out I am going to recommend this one to those who ask about study Bibles. Fortunately with the internet you can usually find anything you want, and for this price you just canā€™t beat it
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Not a bad idea! :newidea:
 
COPLAND_3 said:
I have a Saint Joseph Textbook Edition Confraternity Version, and I love it! It is old but one of the best that I have. Here is a link to where you can buy one for 5 dollars, I got mine for 10 cents!!šŸ˜›

cgi.ebay.com/Holy-Bible-Confraternity-St-Joseph-Textbook-Edition_W0QQitemZ260307016849QQcmdZViewItem

Does anybody else here have one? The footnotes are very orthodox and it has all you need in a study Bible!
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I donā€™t suppose there is an online version free?!!
 
thistle said:
I donā€™t suppose there is an online version free?!!
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I really doubt it, it being out of print and so on.

I just looked on amazon and there are a bucnh of them on sale even cheaper, starting a 2.50! Not bad, though not 10 cents like I got. I also got 2 of the Douay Version with notes compiled by Bishop Challoner. It is also excellent! 10 cents a piece too!
 
COPLAND_3 said:
I have a Saint Joseph Textbook Edition Confraternity Version, and I love it! It is old but one of the best that I have. Here is a link to where you can buy one for 5 dollars, I got mine for 10 cents!!šŸ˜›

cgi.ebay.com/Holy-Bible-Confraternity-St-Joseph-Textbook-Edition_W0QQitemZ260307016849QQcmdZViewItem

Does anybody else here have one? The footnotes are very orthodox and it has all you need in a study Bible!
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oh my God. i have that same book in green. i got it for free.

is this the actual confraternity version that people on this thread are writing about?
 
Jehuty_X said:
oh my God. i have that same book in green. i got it for free.

is this the actual confraternity version that people on this thread are writing about?
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The New Testament - freshly translated by Nicholas King

This is an ineractive study guide which has been praised by Catholics and Non-Catholics. Fr Nicholas King has taught in seminaries and is currently based in Oxford. He is a Jesuit.

Very good translation and teaching tool
 
Cinette said:
The New Testament - freshly translated by Nicholas King

This is an ineractive study guide which has been praised by Catholics and Non-Catholics. Fr Nicholas King has taught in seminaries and is currently based in Oxford. He is a Jesuit.

Very good translation and teaching tool
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Iā€™m not sure Iā€™d be interested in anything by Fr. King. Everytime I run across writings of his, he always strikes me as an apologist for homosexuality by taking a revisionist approach to St. Paulā€™s writings.

For example:
On sex, King says that Paul was ā€œbrought up as a good Jewā€.
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"And, like a good Jew, he thinks that sex is too important to be messed around with, except in marriage. So, he would see homosexuality as absolutely out of court. He did not know the kind of things we now know about homosexuality; that some people do seem to be born that way and donā€™t feel called to living a celibate lifestyle. I think if he had known that then he would have taken a slightly different line.
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St Paul, it is important to repeat, simply did not envisage that he might be taken as legislating for us today. So although as a good Jew, Paul, as he makes it clear in the opening chapter of Romans, felt that homosexuality was ā€œagainst natureā€, it does not follow that we are faithful to his inspiration if today we use that as the end point of the debate, rather than one of its starting points.
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In other words, we should not take Paul at face value because he was a backward product of his time (and of course we now know better than him) and he wasnā€™t really expecting anyone to take his instructions as, well, instruction.

Sorry, but this kind of thing personally drives me mad.
 
Cinette said:
The New Testament - freshly translated by Nicholas King

This is an ineractive study guide which has been praised by Catholics and Non-Catholics. Fr Nicholas King has taught in seminaries and is currently based in Oxford. He is a Jesuit.

Very good translation and teaching tool
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Obviously, from Fidelisā€™ well-researched and reasoned response, the above is NOT the Confraternity Bible.
 
Fidelis said:
Iā€™m not sure Iā€™d be interested in anything by Fr. King. Everytime I run across writings of his, he always strikes me as an apologist for homosexuality by taking a revisionist approach to St. Paulā€™s writings.

For example:

In other words, we should not take Paul at face value because he was a backward product of his time (and of course we now know better than him) and he wasnā€™t really expecting anyone to take his instructions as, well, instruction.

Sorry, but this kind of thing personally drives me mad.
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Hi Fidelis -

I am not one to just accept opinions but your post has made me stop and think. I recommended this New Testement because it was so highly praised by certain religious and the Paulineā€™s - I purchased it and was going to give it to my Protestant son for his birthday. Now I think I shall hold it back. We have also given him a 3-year subscription to the G K Chesterton Society.

Regarding homosexuality. I have always loved Henri Nouwenā€™s books even though he leaned that way. I believe he was celibate but his homosexuality was more an emotional one. At least that was my conclusion. He suffered much. I saw him on film and noticed that he was a very demonstrative personality and he was also unconventional. What makes me wince is his ecumenism - he would say Mass and invite his Protestant friends and let everybody receive the Eucharist. I loved his book ā€œThe Return of the Prodigal Sonā€ and many of his commentaries and essays were excellent. I would like to know how many souls he might have saved. That is impossible to know since one doesnā€™t always reap what one sowā€™s. Did anybody convert thru his influence? I do have a good feeling about Nouwen in spite of his tendencies.

I have done some reading on homosexuality and have learned from some ā€œexpertsā€ that it is not genetic. Some people are born that way but more are bred that way. An absent Father (that includes one who is lives in the same houseā€¦ I believe that homosexuality should not prevent someone being accepted into the seminary because a homosexual could be celibate. I think it must be a terrible sadness.

What makes me mad are those who identify themselves thru their homosexuality (which is depraved) and then you get clubs and bars and they want Gay Olympics etc etc etcā€¦ I believe with all my heart they pretend to be happy.

I would go out of my way to befriend and comfort and love anybody but I donā€™t want anyone to force their tendencies on me. These are private. I would employ and love anybody but they must keep their tendencies to themselves.

Sorry for waffling on like this

Cinette:love:
 
Cinette said:
Hi Fidelis -

I am not one to just accept opinions but your post has made me stop and think. I recommended this New Testement because it was so highly praised by certain religious and the Paulineā€™s - I purchased it and was going to give it to my Protestant son for his birthday. Now I think I shall hold it back. We have also given him a 3-year subscription to the G K Chesterton Society.

Regarding homosexuality. I have always loved Henri Nouwenā€™s books even though he leaned that way. I believe he was celibate but his homosexuality was more an emotional one. At least that was my conclusion. He suffered much. I saw him on film and noticed that he was a very demonstrative personality and he was also unconventional. What makes me wince is his ecumenism - he would say Mass and invite his Protestant friends and let everybody receive the Eucharist. I loved his book ā€œThe Return of the Prodigal Sonā€ and many of his commentaries and essays were excellent. I would like to know how many souls he might have saved. That is impossible to know since one doesnā€™t always reap what one sowā€™s. Did anybody convert thru his influence? I do have a good feeling about Nouwen in spite of his tendencies.

I have done some reading on homosexuality and have learned from some ā€œexpertsā€ that it is not genetic. Some people are born that way but more are bred that way. An absent Father (that includes one who is lives in the same houseā€¦ I believe that homosexuality should not prevent someone being accepted into the seminary because a homosexual could be celibate. I think it must be a terrible sadness.

What makes me mad are those who identify themselves thru their homosexuality (which is depraved) and then you get clubs and bars and they want Gay Olympics etc etc etcā€¦ I believe with all my heart they pretend to be happy.

I would go out of my way to befriend and comfort and love anybody but I donā€™t want anyone to force their tendencies on me. These are private. I would employ and love anybody but they must keep their tendencies to themselves.

Sorry for waffling on like this

Cinette:love:
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On the contrary, I found your reply both sincere and thoughtful. God bless you Cinette.
 
How good are the footnotes? I saw the examples of footnotes but do they have footnotes for every verse, every few verses, or every chapter? Iā€™ve been looking for a good Catholic study book that had frequent footnotes(like every verse or every few verses) that not only explained the scriptures but connected it to Catholic beliefs, doctrines, views, saints that arenā€™t only in the bible, traditions, etc. I recently just bought the new Orthodox Study Bible and it features great and frequent footnotes that explain the scriptures and connects it to Orthodoxy (if youā€™re interested in Orthodoxy or Eastern Catholicism I would highly recommend it, but make sure you get the new one and not the previous one. The previous one had a couple of errors in it. The new one has fixed those few errors and has expanded their footnotes.)
 
searn77 said:
How good are the footnotes? I saw the examples of footnotes but do they have footnotes for every verse, every few verses, or every chapter? Iā€™ve been looking for a good Catholic study book that had frequent footnotes(like every verse or every few verses) that not only explained the scriptures but connected it to Catholic beliefs, doctrines, views, saints that arenā€™t only in the bible, traditions, etc. I recently just bought the new Orthodox Study Bible and it features great and frequent footnotes that explain the scriptures and connects it to Orthodoxy (if youā€™re interested in Orthodoxy or Eastern Catholicism I would highly recommend it, but make sure you get the new one and not the previous one. The previous one had a couple of errors in it. The new one has fixed those few errors and has expanded their footnotes.)
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Lots and lots of footnotes! Great introductions! Maps!
 
Yeah, Iā€™ll probably buy this bible. And I know it most definitely explains the scriptures, but does it connect the scriptures to Catholic beliefs, doctrines, views, saints that arenā€™t only in the bible, traditions, etc.?
 
searn77 said:
Yeah, Iā€™ll probably buy this bible. And I know it most definitely explains the scriptures, but does it connect the scriptures to Catholic beliefs, doctrines, views, saints that arenā€™t only in the bible, traditions, etc.?
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Absolutely! It was actually made as a Bible texbook for Catholic students.
 
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