One Mediator

[jimmy]

redeemed1:

To the Catholics:

I have always wondered how come the heads make it so hard to understand the Bible.
Years of heartache led me to a faith in Jesus that surpasses all of what the Catholic Church can offer.

I discovered that the Bible is not hard to understand; ask the Lord Jesus! He says it is not hard if you truly believe in Him. My friends and family do not misunderstand Who He really is, if they were really teaching the truth, don’t you think it would be easy to talk to Jesus, just like the apostles did when He was here?

He said: Matthew 11:28-30 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Jesus says time and again; 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

The apostle Peter said we should; 1 Peter 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

It isn’t a man-made thing that Jesus wants us to worship, it is Him. I do not see Mary in this. So in my understanding we are to cast everything on Jesus; nothing more and nothing less than Him.

My prayer is that you will hear Him.

You claim to understand the bible and that your faith is great than what the Catholic church can offer.

You sound very self rightious but then you quote 1Peter5;6-7. Doesn’t make sense.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

tralon:

Oh yeah, but they can’t forgive my sin, now can they.Only God forgives sin and that’s why Jesus is our only mediator. He forgives the sins between man and God. Got it?

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

And Jesus breathed the Holy spirit on them(the Apostles) and said,“go and forgive mens sins and whose sins YOU forgive are forgiven them,and the sins YOU hold bound will be held bound”. Sounds like what Jesus said really isn’t enough, or are you really just your own pope?HMMM…GodBless

 

[uniChristian]

kepha1:

Hebrews 4:14-16 takes up the theme that God is not distant from us. The Letter to the Hebrews reminds us that we have in Jesus, a high priest who is close to our sufferings, not distant. Here, the author of the letter contrasts the distance and power of the temple high priests as they related to the people, with Jesus, the new high priest, who is close to us and who beckons us to come close to him.

Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

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This is in reference to the priests of the Old Testament, and makes a contrast between the priests of the OT who made sacrifice for themselves, and then for the people. What the Jews did was a foreshadow of Christ who died once, but His sacrifice is extended to us through time in the Mass. Only a priest can say Mass.

See Malachi 1:11 for bible prophecy about the Mass, there are tons more, and

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/revelation_and_the_mass.html

Priesthood is 100% of the bible and 100% of the tradition taught by Jesus and the Apostles.

The Office of New Testament Priest

http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/ntpriest.htm

For starters, nobody HAS to pray to anyone else, whether they are on earth, or in heaven. But it is a valid practice that goes back to the earliest times in the Church. “Pray” does not mean “worship”, it means “to ask”. And it’s only been 450 years since some Christians stopped praying to saints in heaven, so that is the exception, not the norm. ¾ of all the Christians on the planet pray to saints.

http://www.catholic.com/library/Praying_to_the_Saints.asp

I hope this helps.

kepha1

Do you have any New Testament proofs? Please show me where it says we need a priest in the New Testament? I have read where the Born Again believer is a priest. Please show me where it says we are to pray for and ask for help from saints???

 

[uniChristian]

Lisa4Catholics:

And Jesus breathed the Holy spirit on them(the Apostles) and said,“go and forgive mens sins and whose sins YOU forgive are forgiven them,and the sins YOU hold bound will be held bound”. Sounds like what Jesus said really isn’t enough, or are you really just your own pope?HMMM…GodBless

This is a proclamation of the Gospel and not the ability for the Apostles to forgive sin. Mark 2:6-12 6And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, 7 “Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” 8 But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, “Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? 9 Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Arise, take up your bed and walk’? 10 But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”–He said to the paralytic, 11 “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.” 12 Immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went out in the presence of them all, so that all were amazed and glorified God, saying, “We never saw anything like this!” Only God is able to forgive sin but the Apostles were entrusted with the manifestation of the Gospel that has the power to save men. If men refuse the Gospel they for go their only chance for forgiveness.

 

[uniChristian]

redeemed1:

Galatians 1:6-19 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews’ religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it: And profited in the Jews’ religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers. But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord’s brother.

Please don’t propogate the lie that Jesus didn’t have brothers and sisters through Mary and Joseph; the Bible does tell the truth. They may have only been through the marriage relationship, but they are real. As for John being commanded to look after Mary at the crucifixion, His brothers in the flesh did not believe on Him until after that, so why would He intrust Mary to them, being a good Jewish son? John did look after Mary, but he was also banished; so when did he stop looking after her? Too many myths in the RCC for me, and that is a big reason why I am out. I do not want to be part of the “new babylon”.

My Brother in Christ: We have to remember that Jesus died for everyone and he commands us to love the people here as much as he did. They will respond to your messages in a condescending tone but try to remember the Words of the Messiah “a new commandment I give to you that you love one another as I have loved you”. There are very few here who are born again believers and therefore they will have a difficult time understanding your messages. I am an Evangelist and I have a real heart for these people because I was a member of the Romanist Church from birth. They will defend their beloved faith with all of their strength. Sometimes they will come across as being very pious and arrogant but just remember we have something they don’t and we need to share it in love. A good portion of my family are still in the RCC and I struggle with them all the time.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

uniChristian:

This is a proclamation of the Gospel and not the ability for the Apostles to forgive sin. Mark 2:6-12 6And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, 7 “Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” 8 But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, “Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? 9 Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Arise, take up your bed and walk’? 10 But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”–He said to the paralytic, 11 “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.” 12 Immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went out in the presence of them all, so that all were amazed and glorified God, saying, “We never saw anything like this!” Only God is able to forgive sin but the Apostles were entrusted with the manifestation of the Gospel that has the power to save men. If men refuse the Gospel they for go their only chance for forgiveness.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

I am sorry but it is a problem you have with accepting who God ,who forgives sins, gives authority too. Please do not forget satan quotes scripture,too.I started out protestant, and God called me to His Church and if you lose the antiCatholic misrepresentations you have been fed and open your heart you can have Jesus in his fullness.A very interesting thing that I have noticed is that so many protestants come here to “save” Catholics, when you claim that Jesus saves.Jesus is our Savior we know that, and isn’t it wonderful that so many protestants are being called by Jesus back home to the Catholic Church, without we Catholics berating them and acting like they are to be pittied.God Bless The One Holy Catholic Church

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

uniChristian:

My Brother in Christ: We have to remember that Jesus died for everyone and he commands us to love the people here as much as he did. They will respond to your messages in a condescending tone but try to remember the Words of the Messiah “a new commandment I give to you that you love one another as I have loved you”. There are very few here who are born again believers and therefore they will have a difficult time understanding your messages. I am an Evangelist and I have a real heart for these people because I was a member of the Romanist Church from birth. They will defend their beloved faith with all of their strength. Sometimes they will come across as being very pious and arrogant but just remember we have something they don’t and we need to share it in love. A good portion of my family are still in the RCC and I struggle with them all the time.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

The bold writing is very dramatic. And I can feel the love seeping through you condescending manner in which you speak about us poor Catholics.Please don’t forget HUMILITY.I would recommend you read scriptures again without taking the ones that are convienant to prove your point. And it is your point that you are trying to prove. Jesus is Our Lord and Savior,too, but can’t see that,and you presume that you know the mind of God and our hearts. That is not loving.Oh, and I don’t think that it is right that you call the Lords bride a whore,tsk.tsk.God Bless

 

[chosunhoon]

uniChristian:

This is a proclamation of the Gospel and not the ability for the Apostles to forgive sin.

Rather the authority to forgive sins (Matt 9:6, Luke 5:24), which Jesus exercises is passed down to the apostles (Luke 4:6) which make sense out of the obvious meaning of John 20:21-23

Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

Unless I’m misreading scripture, this parallels Matthew 28:18-19:

Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

And Mark 16:

He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

Clearly Jesus not only commissions them, he grants them the authority to do what he did…like when Jesus gave them authority to drive out demons, raise the dead, heal leprosy, and such (Matt 10:1). Well, John’s gospel tells us the apostles were also given the authority to forgive sins (John 21:23) just as Jesus did because he passed that authority unto the apostles.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

chosunhoon:

Rather the authority to forgive sins (Matt 9:6, Luke 5:24), which Jesus exercises is passed down to the apostles (Luke 4:6) which make sense out of the obvious meaning of John 20:21-23

Unless I’m misreading scripture, this parallels Matthew 28:18-19:

And Mark 16:

Clearly Jesus not only commissions them, he grants them the authority to do what he did…like when Jesus gave them authority to drive out demons, raise the dead, heal leprosy, and such (Matt 10:1). Well, John’s gospel tells us the apostles were also given the authority to forgive sins (John 21:23) just as Jesus did because he passed that authority unto the apostles.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

Amen!God Bless

 

[RobedWithLight]

uniChristian:

My Brother in Christ: We have to remember that Jesus died for everyone and he commands us to love the people here as much as he did. They will respond to your messages in a condescending tone but try to remember the Words of the Messiah “a new commandment I give to you that you** love** one another as I have loved you”. There are very few here who are born again believers and therefore they will have a difficult time understanding your messages. I am an Evangelist and I have a real heart for these people because I was a member of the Romanist Church from birth. They will defend their beloved faith with all of their strength. Sometimes they will come across as being very pious and arrogant but just remember we have something they don’t and we need to share it in love. A good portion of my family are still in the RCC and I struggle with them all the time.

Calling the Catholic Church as “Romanist” is not very loving at all.

Gerry