Only Mass Deportation Can Save America

[ucfengr]

This, my friends, is how you get Donald Trump. It’s always refreshing when the elites drop the mask and tell us what they really think.

Bottom line: So-called real Americans are screwing up America. Maybe they should leave, so that we can replace them with new and better ones: newcomers who are more appreciative of what the United States has to offer, more ambitious for themselves and their children, and more willing to sacrifice for the future. In other words, just the kind of people we used to be — when “we” had just come off the boat.

O.K., so I’m jesting about deporting “real Americans” en masse. (Who would take them in, anyway?) But then the threat of mass deportations has been no joke with this administration.

mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/opinion/only-mass-deportation-can-save-america.html?mwrsm=Facebook&referer=http://m.facebook.com

 

[phil_at_dayboro]

We’ll you could all come over to Australia,
You could bring over your New York Hot dog stands,
You might even improve us on some things,
and we could improve your ability to make Coffee,
Teach you to walk in mass on one side of a footpath and escalates instead of walking around like Browns cows avoiding crashing into people,
Show you what a Real Beach looks like,
Show you a better form of politics etc etc,
And you could bring over your fantastic R V’s and Trucks which we call Ute’s
,
Yes I think it might work,Come on Down,we have lots of Space,

 

[SyroMalankara]

This, my friends, is how you get Donald Trump. It’s always refreshing when the elites drop the mask and tell us what they really think.

mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/opinion/only-mass-deportation-can-save-america.html?mwrsm=Facebook&referer=http://m.facebook.com

You left out the beginning:

In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

They need to return whence they came.

I speak of Americans whose families have been in this country for a few generations. Complacent, entitled and often shockingly ignorant on basic points of American law and history, they are the stagnant pool in which our national prospects risk drowning.

On point after point, America’s nonimmigrants are failing our country.

 

[starshiptrooper]

Questionable statistics about illegal aliens and a deliberate conflation of illegal aliens with legal immigrants. There is nothing new or useful here.

 

[BackHand]

We’ll you could all come over to Australia,
You could bring over your New York Hot dog stands,
You might even improve us on some things,
and we could improve your ability to make Coffee,
Teach you to walk in mass on one side of a footpath and escalates instead of walking around like Browns cows avoiding crashing into people,
Show you what a Real Beach looks like,
Show you a better form of politics etc etc,
And you could bring over your fantastic R V’s and Trucks which we call Ute’s
,
Yes I think it might work,Come on Down,we have lots of Space,

Cool can I start useing the C word in every day conversation? We’ll have to kill all those nasty bugs though and Fosters will be a big improvement over bud “very” light.

You left out the beginning:
The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

They need to return whence they came.

I speak of Americans whose families have been in this country for a few generations. Complacent, entitled and often shockingly ignorant on basic points of American law and history, they are the stagnant pool in which our national prospects risk drowning.

 

[stinkcat_14]

Perhaps we ought to deport the able bodied people over 65 who can work but choose not too. That would make our welfare programs much more sustainable. The problem is when you offer people money for doing nothing, there are those who will take it.

 

[Sarcelle]

Perhaps we ought to deport the able bodied people over 65 who can work but choose not too. That would make our welfare programs much more sustainable. The problem is when you offer people money for doing nothing, there are those who will take it.

Get rid of age discrimination too while you’re at it.

I know a lot of people who would love to work at the profession they excel in but can’t due to age discrimination.

 

[Sarcelle]

Questionable statistics about illegal aliens and a deliberate conflation of illegal aliens with legal immigrants. There is nothing new or useful here.

Yes.

It irritates me to no end to see this kind of intellectual dishonesty.

 

[dvdjs]

This, my friends, is how you get Donald Trump. It’s always refreshing when the elites drop the mask and tell us what they really think.

mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/opinion/only-mass-deportation-can-save-america.html?mwrsm=Facebook&referer=http://m.facebook.com

Nice article. Thanks for the link.

 

[frobert]

This, my friends, is how you get Donald Trump. It’s always refreshing when the elites drop the mask and tell us what they really think.

mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/opinion/only-mass-deportation-can-save-america.html?mwrsm=Facebook&referer=http://m.facebook.com

Interesting switch.

In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system. - Bret Stephens

During the election it was Hillery and the liberals who labeled Trump supporters in fly over America a “basket of deplorables.”

 

[pnewton]

Yes.

It irritates me to no end to see this kind of intellectual dishonesty.

This article gives a good illustration of how to recognize intellectual dishonesty. Instead of reading his statistics, note what they represent. They are obscure, unique and seldom used references (Junior Nobel Prize???) He shows how statistics should not be used at least. Even a bad article can serve as a good example of a bad article.

But I do think he is dead on about immigration being a needed resource. It is far better to legalize someone who will help our country than deport them. We cut off our nose to spite our face.

 

[dvdjs]

This article gives a good illustration of how to recognize intellectual dishonesty. Instead of reading his statistics, note what they represent. They are obscure, unique and seldom used references (Junior Nobel Prize???) He shows how statistics should not be used at least. Even a bad article can serve as a good example of a bad article.

But I do think he is dead on about immigration being a needed resource. It is far better to legalize someone who will help our country than deport them. We cut off our nose to spite our face.

The author made it plain that he was speaking tongue-in-cheek. His point on the value of immigration was honest, true, and well taken. You may not like his examples because they are, to you, obscure; fine there are others.

While Trump’s actions on illegal immigration are the stuff of greater news, those actions spill over to attitudes abut immigrants. (Did the Portland killer ask about citizenship or green cards?). Moreover, the Trump administration has not confined its attention to illegal immigration, but also to legal immigration.

 

[pnewton]

The author made it plain that he was speaking tongue-in-cheek. His point on the value of immigration was honest, true, and well taken. You may not like his examples because they are, to you, obscure; fine there are others.

I know there are others, he even used some good ones. Some were so contrived it does raise concerns for me though, like:

Educational achievement? Just 17 percent of the finalists in the 2016 Intel Science Talent Search — often called the “Junior Nobel Prize” — were the children of United States-born parents. At the Rochester Institute of Technology, just 9.5 percent of graduate students in electrical engineering were nonimmigrants.

Okay, well why this last figure instead of mechanical engineers at Florida State, or architecture students University of Texas?

Why this prize no one heard of instead of a metric like SAT’s, college rank, or simply get past all this white collar demographics and give stats on productivity. I have no problem criticizing someone just because we agree on some things, if I think it is justified and needed. He really went too far, and probably did more harm than good, sort of like faint praise.

 

[dvdjs]

I know there are others, he even used some good ones. Some were so contrived it does raise concerns for me though, like:

Okay, well why this last figure instead of mechanical engineers at Florida State, or architecture students University of Texas?

Why this prize no one heard of instead of a metric like SAT’s, college rank, or simply get past all this white collar demographics and give stats on productivity. I have no problem criticizing someone just because we agree on some things, if I think it is justified and needed. He really went too far, and probably did more harm than good, sort of like faint praise.

I don’t disagree that the use of these specific metrics raises questions. My guess is he went with things that were, for whatever reason, available. I strongly suspect that SAT does not give data on longevity of family in America. I doubt that many college track this student demographic - but it would be interesting to do so.