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Servant19
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How do you know the answer you received is from the “One” and not the “other one”?
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Bahaitruth
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Both pen (questioner) and tongue (answerer) are animated by One being.
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openmind77
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So which is this one correct religion?
(I personally think they are all partially correct, some more correct than others.)
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Servant19
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Well we wouldn’t be Baha’is, dear openmind, if we were not convinced that this religion spoke the Truth. It is very much historically unquestionable, andf the Writings are fully authenticated…
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openmind77
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So then you are like the Catholics (as well as the Muslims) on this site who believe that their religion alone is the Truth!
All religions have the Truth to some degree, but there are many things that they get wrong.
Let me ask you a totally hypothetical question: If the Christ returned tomorrow (and everyone, at least most people recognized him as such) and the Christ said that reincarnation was as a fact - would you then renounce your correct religion? This should be a a Yes or No answer. If No, why not? Is this not a basic truth which correct religions should know about?
Of course, this is a hypothetical question, I am not at all saying that reincarnation is a proven fact.
So you should feel pretty safe in saying that you would renounce Bahaism if reincarnation turned out to be true. Yes or No?
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adawgj
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I think all religions share many commonalities and all contain truth some more than others, (I do believe that Catholicism holds all the truth together) but I believe we should learn from one another, gain better understanding of ours and their spirituality and closeness in the pursuit to find God.
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Servant19
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Dear friend,
If Jesus came to earth and lived a life like the Bab or Baha’u’llah (even more so if He LITERALLY came down from the cloud, and the sun went dark and the stars fell down from the sky) and He said ANYTHING, I would belive Him instantly, even if He said reincarnation is truth.
Just show me another Person who lives a life like Jesus, the bab or Baha’u’llah and I will investigate their Cause…
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Servant19
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Servant19
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Hi openmind.
In the sense that Baha’is think they have the Truth at the denial of all religions, the Baha’i Faith is not in that category.
Catholicism denies the Truth, and Divinity underlying Muhammad’s Holy Book and denies likewise, the Bab and Baha’u’llah
Likewise, Islam denies the Truth and Divinity underlying the Baha’i and Babi Scriptures.
The Baha’i Faith does not and will not deny any of God’s Messengers.
Theres a BIG difference there, and that will be the underlying Spirit which will eventually bring forth the unification of the human race…
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openmind77
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am sure you would and so would I, but if reincarnation were true then Bahaism would no longer be the One correct religion would it? It will have gotten a very important fact of life (or death) incorrect.
But I am happy to see in you the acknowledgement of such a possibility.
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openmind77
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I do recognize the difference and I do like Bahai just for this difference. But the problem is that Bahais still believe that their’s is the final messenger, that they have the ultimate truth…
Both Christians and Muslims are waiting for the Return of their Messiah (at least to some extent), but Bahai’s think they have already found him and there will be no more to come (I hope I am not mistaken here). You will not be ready when the Messiah actually comes.
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Servant19
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Dear friend.
2 points to be raised with what you posted above
- No-one was ready for the Bab and Baha’u’llah. When the Bab revealed His Mission to those that saught Him, it was a Trumpet Blast of cosmic proportions. When Baha’u’llah said “I am…” the world underwent a change it has never witnessed in its entire history. There have been more inventions of technological advancement in the century since Baha’u’llah’s Declaration in 1863, than has been seen in the past TEN centuries combined. And that’s a fact, I checked
- Baha’is do not claim in any shape or form to be the possessors of the Absolute Truth.
Mankind progresses and is capable of understanding God and our relationship with His Creation in a progressively more advanced manner. God guides accordingly.
Today the largest body of Truth available to mankind is seen in Baha’u’llah. At some stage in the future that Truth will be added to by the next Avatar/Manifestation/Prophet/Messenger of God/Second Person of the Trinity Incarnate.
Baha’is are humble enough to acknowledge this fact
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tonyfish58
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openmind77 - Baha’u’llah Teaches this is not the final message from God and there is more truth. Unfortunately mankind was found to be not ready and many of Baha’ullah writings have been lost & Destroyed. This Dispensation will last for 500,000 years.
A full 1000 years will expire before the next Manifestation.
All prophesy and promise of all the Religions up to the coming of the Bab and of the Bab, have been fulfilled by Baha’u’llah.
God bless and Regards Tony
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Bahaitruth
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Re: the Cycle of Bahaullah lasting 500,000 years, here is some background on what is implied here: there are Islamic traditions that suggest God created Adam 500,000 years ago. Bahaullah claims to be that appearance that occurred 500,000 years ago. Baha’u’llah’s appearance is much greater than any other event that has occurred over the past 500,000 years when God created Adam. This is what is meant that Bahaullah IS the Father. God has created a new race of men. Bahaullah in SuriyiHaykal says that Real Bahais (the new race of men/angels) were not enjoined by God to bow down to Adam. The whole time they stare up at God while others bowed to Adam. Abdulbaha clarifies that many people are Bahais even if they call themselves by another religion…
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eddie_too
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what is missing, for us and for future generations, from the teachings of Jesus Christ?
you claim that Jesus’ teachings lack something, what does it lack?
you claim that Jesus’ teachings lack something, what does it lack?
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openmind77
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I guess I am confused. I understood that according to Bahais, after Bahaullah, prophesy of all religions are fulfilled and Judgement Day is already begun.
So what happens after Judgement Day? Life just goes on as before, there is no End of the World and new Manifestations keep appearing?
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Bahaitruth
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Open mind, great question…
This is exactly why I say future Manifestations who will appear every thousand years will still be under the “shadow” of Bahaullah, just as all previous Manifestations since Adam are under the “shadow” of Bahaullah.
This is exactly why I say future Manifestations who will appear every thousand years will still be under the “shadow” of Bahaullah, just as all previous Manifestations since Adam are under the “shadow” of Bahaullah.
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openmind77
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I am not sure anyone said that Jesus’s teachings lack anything. But just like science, all religious teachings are always incomplete. When the Christ returns he will continue to expand on his previous teachings, especially correcting those that the followers (or the Church) got wrong.
However, according to the Bahai (and I agree), there will be other teachers after that who will expand on the teachings even further. This process will go on almost endlessly (almost because the Universe will end eventually), so there are innumerable teachers yet to come - we can never hope to understand God and the Universe completely…
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openmind77
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This is assumption that I have an issue with. If the next Manifestation comes and contradicts something that Bahaullah has declared (reincarnation was an example that I gave), then what are the Bahai going to do? Change Bahaullah into a ‘shadow’ ?
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eddie_too
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in what way are the life and teachings of Jesus Christ incomplete?
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