Open letter to Cardinal Marx

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No he said more than celibacy is in the table sadly. Even in this open letter it is referenced. I will try to find the original article when Cardinal Marx first announces his synod for you as well. Also I really don’t think he will be the next pope. But that is something hard to predict and I doubt anyone here has any clue who it will be.
 
More changes in the catechism will be expected if that would be the case.
 
This sort of stuff horrifies me. I just have to trust the Holy Spirit that He won’t let His church fall into error. Cardinal Marx also wants to significantly relax the way intercommunion is handled. To his credit the Pope seems to have tried to put the breaks on, but not as strongly or as publicly as many would have liked.
 
Have no fear. If the worst does happen then it will simply be the German Bishops in error here. They can’t change Church teaching for the whole Church or anything crazy like that. But hopefully it won’t even come to that and I have a feeling it won’t
 
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I think you might have answered the question. It is a relaxing of discipline. Not only discipline, but a discipline with roots in Christ and Saint Paul. Saint Paul specifically writes against the man of God being married. Are we wiser than he? Wiser than Christ?

Even so, a Priest can be married now! The Eastern Rites have them pretty much as the norm as I understand it. And there are married Roman Rite Priests - mostly converts.

But, why do the Priests not have a problem with celibacy and everyone else does? It is a negative human trait in which we are more upset with someone else’s living conditions than they are themselves!

Priests consider celibacy a gift! Would we take that away from them to please ourselves?

I think a certain Cardinal should work on packing the parishes with parishioners first - without watering discipline down. How about preaching Christ in all of His unvarnished truth? What a concept.
 
Snarky and classless letter from Weigel. I don’t even disagree with him on many points, but the letter lacks on so many levels, first of which is Christian charity… second might be pride as the digital page can barely contain Weigel’s ego
 
I think you might have answered the question. It is a relaxing of discipline. Not only discipline, but a discipline with roots in Christ and Saint Paul. Saint Paul specifically writes against the man of God being married. Are we wiser than he? Wiser than Christ?
Saint Paul wrote many things on this subject. For example Corinthians 7:9 which basically said marry if it will stop somebody from sinning. With the child abuse that Germany has seen, I don’t see a threat in the German Clerics have their “synodal process”, meeting, discussing this, and coming up with some ideas.

Does celibacy cause child abuse in Germany? I’ve read convincing views from both sides, but I’m not German and have few German Ancestors. I honestly don’t know, but I see no harm in a big meeting. It makes sense to have a meeting to discuss it. For an American with a German name to protest this makes no sense to me. What is this “Synodal Process” to Weigel?
Priests consider celibacy a gift! Would we take that away from them to please ourselves?
First I agree that celibacy can be a gift. I’ve seen it as a very positive thing sometimes…especially in orders. Some priests see celibacy as a true gift to God, and I do respect and admire that.

However, I’ve heard priests talk about how Celibacy works for them and is right for them. My response is that I don’t care. Mandatory celibacy is not a gift to the celibate priest. If mandatory celibacy is even indirectly related child abuse, if it prevents people from receiving sacraments, or if it stops people from spreading the gospel, how is it any longer a gift to God?
 
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I don’t know Cardinal Marx, so I can’t comment on his intentions or what his vision is for the Catholic Church in Germany. But one thing has been bothering me in this whole debate over relaxing the discipline of priestly celibacy. Celibacy and marriage are two sides of the same coin. When you devalue one, you devalue the other. Both St. John Chrysostom and Pope St. John Paul II (quoting Chrysostom) point this out, stating that one cannot fully appreciate the “greater good” of celibacy without first fully appreciating the “great good” of marriage and vice-versa.

As an Eastern (Maronite) Catholic, I have absolutely no problem with a married priesthood. But marriage ought not to be treated as a “remedy for sin” in the sense that it gives spouses an outlet to indulge their lusts and disordered passions. It’s a “remedy for sin” in the sense that it becomes an arena in which to combat our lusts and disordered passions so that, overcoming them through the grace of God and the power of the Cross, we can then be freed to love with the “freedom of the sons of God.”

If the Germans (or anyone else) think that relaxing the discipline of celibacy in order to give priests an outlet for sexual expression is the solution to the sex abuse crisis, then they’re wrong. It may, at least initially, reduce the numbers of incidence of child sexual abuse, but at what cost? If a man treats a woman simply as an object to release his own sexual tensions, where’s the respect for the dignity of the person? And if a husband can’t respect the dignity of his own wife, what makes anyone think he’ll respect the dignity of children (whether his own or others) or his parishioners in the case of a priest? A relaxation of the discipline of priestly celibacy - when done for the wrong reasons - potentially opens the door to increased child sexual abuse, not to mention physical and emotional abuse, if the reason for the relaxation is, at its core, a concession to sin (lust).

Repentance and conversion are the only solutions to this crisis. That, and priests remembering that their chosen vocation of celibacy is not an end in itself. As Pope St. John Paul II pointed out over and over again, priestly celibacy is only a good insofar as it is oriented to the Kingdom of God. Celibate priests need to rediscover this fundamental orientation of their call to celibacy - not try to skirt around it.
 
Repentance and conversion are the only solutions to this crisis. That, and priests remembering that their chosen vocation of celibacy is not an end in itself. As Pope St. John Paul II pointed out over and over again, priestly celibacy is only a good insofar as it is oriented to the Kingdom of God . Celibate priests need to rediscover this fundamental orientation of their call to celibacy - not try to skirt around it.
I certainly very much like this part of what you said!
I have absolutely no problem with a married priesthood. But marriage ought not to be treated as a “remedy for sin” in the sense that it gives spouses an outlet to indulge their lusts and disordered passions. It’s a “remedy for sin” in the sense that it becomes an arena in which to combat our lusts and disordered passions so that, overcoming them through the grace of God and the power of the Cross, we can then be freed to love with the “freedom of the sons of God.”
However, I have trouble wrapping my head around this part of what you said. Saint Paul really did say the following, and, in a way, it is huge that he said the following in Corinthians 7:9:
For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion
Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems like he is saying that sometimes it is not about God’s grace to prevent that passion. God’s grace may actually be that passion…not lust but something much deeper.
 
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