Opinion on the Torah

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Hello fellow believers. I am new to this forum. My name is Christian. I would like to ask, what is your opinion regarding the Torah?
 
I read it a few weeks ago and it’s still fresh in my mind. It’s got a lot of wisdom in it. I liked reading about the exodus. It’s the best part of the Torah, in my opinion. If a christian reads the Torah, his/her faith will be increased. 😃
 
The Torah/Pentateuch is part of the Old Testament portion of Sacred Scriptures aka “The Bible”.

It is part of God’s Revelation to Man - and can be more fully Understood in the Light of Its further revelations of Jesus’ Gospel and the rest of the New Testament…
 
It is the Written Law portion of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh). All is contained in it, literally, and it contains much wisdom. However, it must be interpreted in several passages, and the means of doing that is the Oral Law (Talmud), the Kabbalah (particularly the Zohar), as well as oral and rabbinical tradition. Interpretations may vary to a small and even large degree, and that, I think, is part of the beauty of Judaism, of which the Torah is the primary source.
 
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The Torah is pretty good. Especially since it’s apart of the bible. A bible without it would be like a pb&j sandwich without the pb.
 
The Talmud and Kabbalah are (non-Christian) Jewish perspectives; yet certainly Not the Catholic - Christian (which can and have contained Jewish persons) perspective…
 
gaviria.christian said:
Hello fellow believers. I am new to this forum. My name is Christian. I would like to ask, what is your opinion regarding the Torah?
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It is the first 5 Books of the Old Testament, makes upJewish Law , as it was the Law God gave to Moses for everyone to live by. Jewish people still follow Torah. Christians follow the first 10 Commandments. There are over 600 Commandments in Torah.
 
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The ceremonial laws are NOT still binding upon Christians, even from the Jewish perspective. The moral laws, for the most part, are binding. All the laws (those of the 613 which still can be practiced) are theoretically binding upon Jews although certain less orthodox streams of Judaism disagree to what extent.
 
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It’s part of the Word of God, and I have read it in its entirety. No more complicated than that.

I don’t accept the Talmud or the Zohar, because unlike the Torah, Christians do not regard it as the Word of God. It may make for interesting reading, but it’s not part of my faith.
 
So that we’re clear… The Old Testament Mosaic law were fulfilled by Messiah Jesus. We’re no longer bound by them. … We are now in The New Covenant - by which Salvation to all comes via FAITH in JESUS - by which now - since His Prophecied Atonement Sacrifice - the Door to God has been Redeemed - which was in turn Miraculously witnessed by Jews of many nations and languages - on Pentecost day - in which 1000’s accepted Jesus - via God’s Holy Spirit.
 
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So that we’re clear… The Old Testament Mosaic law were fulfilled by Messiah Jesus. We’re no longer bound by them. … We are now in The New Covenant - by which Salvation to all comes via FAITH in JESUS - by which now - since His Prophecied Atonement Sacrifice - the Door to God has been Redeemed - which was in turn Miraculously witnessed by Jews of many nations and languages - on Pentecost day - in which 1000’s accepted Jesus - via God’s Holy Spirit.
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Lets be clear, Jesus did not come to change or abolish the Law but to fulfil it. Jesus said not one stroke of the pen or dash or dot would be removed from the Law until his second coming.

All previous Covenants still stand, God does not negate His covenants with His people.
 
“Lets be clear, Jesus did not come to change or abolish the Law but to fulfil it. Jesus said not one stroke of the pen or dash or dot would be removed from the Law until his second coming.”

Let’s be clear… . I know that… FULFILLING the Law is the Key.
We’re not bound by the Mosaic Law any more.
Salvation comes via FAITH in JESUS…

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Let’s be clear… . I know that… FULFILLING the Law is the Key.
We’re not bound by the Mosaic Law any more.
Salvation comes via FAITH in JESUS…
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We are bound by the 10 Commandments, they are part of Mosaic Law. We are bound by morality taught in those times.

Faith is not enough to gain salvation, I can have faith and live with mortal sin, will I be subject to salvation? No. I still have to stick to the Law God gave Moses, the 10 Commandments. If I don’t, I am in mortal sin, if I do this willingly and with full knowledge.
 
Nope - Obviously you have not absorbed what is Clearly contained throughout the New Testament… I’ll get on that tomorrow… For it is very Clear Cut and very specifically Taught that the Mosaic laws had not nor can not Save anyone…

Again, I’ll get on that tomorrow with Teachings on this very topic - drawn directly from the New Testament and New Covenant and Mosaic Law versus Faith and Spirit.

The Two Great Commands of God - are what it essential to inherit Eternal Life. with the strong focus upon Love Thy Neighbor in Action.

Yes FAITH alone is insufficient and yet it is the Key…

Faith, Hope and Charity –

And definitely Charity is essential. for passing muster at Judgement Day…

PEACE
 
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gaviria.christian said:
Then why did the Messiah say, “I did not come to abolish the Torah”?
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First of all, the Torah has different meanings;
" (Torah** תּוֹרָה, “Instruction”, “Teaching” or “Law”) has a range of meanings. It can most specifically mean the first five books ( Pentateuch or five books of Moses ) of the 24 books of the Tanakh. It can also mean the continued narrative from all the 24 books, from the Book of Genesis to the end of the Tanakh (Chronicles), and it can even mean the totality of Jewish teaching, culture, and practice, whether derived from biblical texts or later rabbinic writings…Common to all these meanings, Torah consists of the origin of Jewish peoplehood: their call into being by God, their trials and tribulations, and their covenant with their God, which involves following a way of life embodied in a set of moral and religious obligations and civil laws (halakha)
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What our Lord said:
Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.”
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Of note here is that, at the Transfiguration, Moses (the Law) and Elijah (the Prohets) appeared alongside our glorified Lord. Even though Jesus had not yet suffered and died, He is not bound by time or space. The Transfiguration was, in part, a fulfillment of His prophecy:
Luke 9:27
But I tell you of a truth: There are some standing here that shall not taste death, till they see the kingdom of God.
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