As an American, I’d be the first to tell you we are far from perfect, especially as it relates to international diplomacy. I am very interested to know what the Islamic states think we’ve done diplomatically which has led to the reaction we’ve seen.
Hmm… I don’t represent Islamic states. I’m kind of nervous to answer because I think what I said is going to be very easily misconstrued. I certainly don’t justify religious oppression or intolerance.
The shahadah is written on the banner around his/her head, and also on the banner across the chest.
Let me take one, specifically the Taliban, and refer you to a movie: Charlie Wilson’s War. Covers Pakistan too. For Saudi, there is more to look at in the 70’s and 80’s. But I just want to be clear that I’m not blaming Americans for everything… it’s why this thread is kind of embarassing, even the title.
Fine. Four fingers back at the Muslims. Fine. I’m not trying to say Muslims aren’t at fault–they are.
I understand if you simply must decline to answer (I applaud your tireless efforts thusfar around the boards…Hmm… I don’t represent Islamic states. I’m kind of nervous to answer because I think what I said is going to be very easily misconstrued. I certainly don’t justify religious oppression or intolerance.
You see, it was MY ANSWER to the question (and I didn’t answer the question) which would have been based on American diplomatic history.
I wasn’t saying that oppressive rule of Muslims was based on American diplomatic history.
) This is not the first time I’ve heard such an accusation however, so I hoped I could get some elucidation from a member of the Islamic community. It may be just your answer, your individual opinion, but it’s one I think that is shared with a great many folk in the Islamic world. I can’t speak for my less delicate brothers and sisters here, but I would not be **** off knowing what the reasoning is behind these accusations, whether the reasoning is based on fact or conjecture.I apologize for that, causing you embarrassment was not my intent in asking the question. I honestly have heard this before and that’s why I asked.
Muslims ALWAYS? You’re right it is an exaggeration. And it must be very frustrating to try to explain how suicide bombing is wrong only to get a runaround about Jews or Israel or Zionists or Americans, etc. I sympathize.
I would like to participate in a thread about US Diplomatic history (and you seem to be very informed on the topic!) but I’m really afraid that this thread is making me look pretty anti-American right now.
I wasn’t saying that. I was saying my ANSWER was based on American diplomatic history… and it had more to do with the nature of Muslim rulers in the world today.
And the French in Syria. The French in Algeria. The English in India and Pakistan, certainly in Afghanistan. Infact, even Russia (Soviet Union) in Afghanistan. And the British in Egypt and “Palestine.”
Thank you! I just wanted to make clear that the canvas upon which this picture is painted reflects that this is not just an American problem. It’s roots are far deeper. But I appreciate your honesty.And the French in Syria. The French in Algeria. The English in India and Pakistan, certainly in Afghanistan. Infact, even Russia (Soviet Union) in Afghanistan. And the British in Egypt and “Palestine.”
You’re right. And I’m not disputing that at all.
Your personal insults have no place here. Continue in this and you will not last here long.
I hope you will stop replying to my posts now.