Organized protest at Notre Dame

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This is a great idea to head to Notre Dame for the commencement in order to stand up for the faith!

For those of us who aren’t able to make the trip but still want to do something more to stand up for our faith beyond signing the petition, what can we do online to join with those praying the Rosary that day? Sure, we could do a Rosary thread on here that day.

What about some sort of Rosary campaign, maybe getting as many people involved as possible both with praying the Rosary together wherever they may be, online, etc., and also sending in some sort of letter to the president of Notre Dame, with each letter representing the campaign/a Rosary being said.
 
Lizziebel said:
This is a great idea to head to Notre Dame for the commencement in order to stand up for the faith!

For those of us who aren’t able to make the trip but still want to do something more to stand up for our faith beyond signing the petition, what can we do online to join with those praying the Rosary that day? Sure, we could do a Rosary thread on here that day.

What about some sort of Rosary campaign, maybe getting as many people involved as possible both with praying the Rosary together wherever they may be, online, etc., and also sending in some sort of letter to the president of Notre Dame, with each letter representing the campaign/a Rosary being said.
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See 1,000,000 Rosaries at www.ndresponse.com
 
elts1956 said:
Remember digger, “our Church” is the body of Christ and we mortal members. The Social Justice category of the Church, which you are valuing as being the highest of motives, doesn’t have a leg to stand on without the Faith and teachings SHE gives us. This begins with the understanding of Absolute good and Intrinsic evil which seems to have escaped your thought patterns. I am thinking you are another victim of our materialistic world who believes relativism gives us the path to TRUTH.
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If I recall correctly, Fr. Corapi once heard from Mothere Theresa thatshe wanted everyone to know she was NOT a social worker. I fear than many in the Church value only as a social institutionand not as a vessel of Truth.
 
tobinatorstark said:
I too would like to be involved a organized protest on this matter. Notre Dame is about maybe 2 1/2 hours from me. I think an organized protest would relevant. I also would like to see the President of Notre Dame get excommunicated over this situation. That’s my 2 cents
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If you do protest, I hope you will consider what the local bishop stated:
A few words in South Bend
At the bottom of this page in this edition of the newspaper, I have shared a statement I sent to the media on Good Friday. My statement speaks for itself. It is necessary, at this time, to concentrate clearly on the issue at hand. Within the campus of Notre Dame, young people are gathering in prayer, and distinguished faculty members are making presentations. My purpose was to distance the Catholic Church from unseemly demonstrations, which attack the president of our country, or Notre Dame or Father Jenkins. Such demonstrations are distractions. The true issue remains, the sacredness of every life and the necessity of honoring this sacredness in our decisions, as well as our words.
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diocesefwsb.org/TODAY/news.htm

While Bishop D’Arcy disagrees with Notre Dame’s decision, he still has a strong relationship with the University and Fr. Jenkins, and has clearly asked that no Catholics participate in “unseemly” or disrespectful demonstrations.

I’m sure you will agree with that…actually, I’m not, but in fairness I wanted you to be aware of what the local bishop is asking.

Happy Easter.
 
diggerdomer said:
I would recommend channeling your time, energy, and money into some practical and local efforts to reduce the number of abortions, or care for those who have been traumatized by abortion. I think that will have a much more significant and lasting effect. Although, if you’re more concerned for “our Church” and “America” rather than those who are victimized by abortion, by all means go to ND and participate in whatever protest you think will be effective. Best wishes.
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On one hand I think that he has a right to protest but on the other hand I’m worried about the safety of the President. While the poster seems convicted and reasonable I worry about the wingnuts who might harm the POTUS and that to me would be a great tragedy and it wouldn’t look good for the fellow protestors or for the Catholics in general.
 
TracyJ said:
On one hand I think that he has a right to protest but on the other hand I’m worried about the safety of the President. While the poster seems convicted and reasonable I worry about the wingnuts who might harm the POTUS and that to me would be a great tragedy and it wouldn’t look good for the fellow protestors or for the Catholics in general.
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I agree. I have no problem per se with those who want to protest. Freedom of speech is of course a great value. I just hope they consider what and how. And, as I posted earlier, consider the teaching of the local bishop (whose comments, by the way, included concern for the graduates the the University, not just the President).
 
Havard said:
Fox News has given a platform to the organizers, and they admonished the President as well as Father Jenkins. I’d bet the NDResponse organizers will be given another chance to come on again when the commencement takes place. Also, there are numerous press releases. And all the letters, and the web site with the petition with nearly 300,000 signors. But as to the commencement itself, I personally think the Rosary a more powerful statement. (Not saying you’re wrong, just my personal feeling.)
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I probably would have agreed with you up until Fr. Jenkins revoked his agreement to meet with the leadership of NDResponse. All presumption of good faith on his part has been swept away.

I think the Rosary will be a more powerful statement to Catholics nationwide. I think a more vocal reaction is needed to reach the administration and alumni. Otherwise, they are going to just believe that any resistance will blow over and that no harm was done.
 
diggerdomer said:
While Bishop D’Arcy disagrees with Notre Dame’s decision, he still has a strong relationship with the University and Fr. Jenkins, and has clearly asked that no Catholics participate in “unseemly” or disrespectful demonstrations.

I’m sure you will agree with that…actually, I’m not, but in fairness I wanted you to be aware of what the local bishop is asking.

Happy Easter.
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The operative words being “unseemly” and “disrespectful”. Also from Bishop D’Arcy:
“I am supportive of all efforts by NDResponse or any other prayerful and dignified demonstrations by Notre Dame students; and if my schedule allows, I will attend and also meet with students if they would find this helpful.” - Bishop J. M. D’Arcy
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The Bishop has not asked Catholics not to protest or demonstrate, only that any such events be prayerful and dignified.
 
Corki said:
The operative words being “unseemly” and “disrespectful”. Also from Bishop D’Arcy:

The Bishop has not asked Catholics not to protest or demonstrate, only that any such events be prayerful and dignified.
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Agreed, yes, definitely. Sorry if I posted anything that people may have inferred otherwise.
 
diggerdomer said:
If you do protest, I hope you will consider what the local bishop stated:

diocesefwsb.org/TODAY/news.htm

While Bishop D’Arcy disagrees with Notre Dame’s decision, he still has a strong relationship with the University and Fr. Jenkins, and has clearly asked that no Catholics participate in “unseemly” or disrespectful demonstrations.

I’m sure you will agree with that…actually, I’m not, but in fairness I wanted you to be aware of what the local bishop is asking.

Happy Easter.
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The Bishops decision can be overturned by the Archbishop. I will not be going to Notre Dame on that weekend as I have other religious obligations. That is fine and dandy that Bishop D’Arcy will continue to have goo relationships with the University and Fr. Jenkins. I will however refuse to support Notre Dame at any time. Fr. Jenkins should be excommunicated. Shame on Fr. Jenkins to invite Obama and shame on Bishop D’Arcy other related officials for not getting more involved to prevent this from happening.
 
tobinatorstark said:
The Bishops decision can be overturned by the Archbishop.
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What? This makes no sense.

Who is “the Archbishop”? What Bishops, specifically, are you referring to in this case?

I’m sorry, I have no idea how to make sense of that statement. If you can help clarify I would be grateful.
 
diggerdomer said:
What? This makes no sense.

Who is “the Archbishop”? What Bishops, specifically, are you referring to in this case?

I’m sorry, I have no idea how to make sense of that statement. If you can help clarify I would be grateful.
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If you don’t know what any Archbishop is, I suggest you seriously take a good look at the Catholic faith and its heirarchy. If you don’t know what hierarchy is, the I suggest a dictionary, if you know what one is. You just get a kick out causing trouble don’t you.
 
tobinatorstark said:
If you don’t know what any Archbishop is, I suggest you seriously take a good look at the Catholic faith and its heirarchy. If you don’t know what hierarchy is, the I suggest a dictionary, if you know what one is. You just get a kick out causing trouble don’t you.
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No I get a kick out of wondering what the heck you’re talking about.

YOU said “the Archbishop” can overturn a bishop’s decision. I’m simply wondering what you mean by that. I honestly and sincerely have no clue (not the first time in my life I’m clueless! LOL).

If you can’t answer, or don’t want to, fine, but please there’s no need to turn this into a personal attack.

Please either answer my question, with the respect and sincerity that I asked it with, or just ignore and don’t respond. No need to hurl uncharitable personal accusations.
 
TracyJ said:
On one hand I think that he has a right to protest but on the other hand I’m worried about the safety of the President. While the poster seems convicted and reasonable I worry about the wingnuts who might harm the POTUS and that to me would be a great tragedy and it wouldn’t look good for the fellow protestors or for the Catholics in general.
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If anyone tries to do harm to the President, it will be a leftist like Oswald. Bet on that!
 
diggerdomer said:
No I get a kick out of wondering what the heck you’re talking about.

YOU said “the Archbishop” can overturn a bishop’s decision. I’m simply wondering what you mean by that. I honestly and sincerely have no clue (not the first time in my life I’m clueless! LOL).

If you can’t answer, or don’t want to, fine, but please there’s no need to turn this into a personal attack.

Please either answer my question, with the respect and sincerity that I asked it with, or just ignore and don’t respond. No need to hurl uncharitable personal accusations.
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I am moving you to my ignore list.
 
tobinatorstark said:
I am moving you to my ignore list.
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Good for you! Congratulations. I asked you to either respond, in charity and sincerity, **or **ignore my comments…and you somehow did a little of both.

Better to ignore than resolve problems, right?
 
Lizziebel said:
Thanks! I found that afterwards. If as many of us as possible put the link into our signatures, we’ll hopefully spread the word and get a lot of participation in the rosary campaign.
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tobinatorstark said:
The Bishops decision can be overturned by the Archbishop. I will not be going to Notre Dame on that weekend as I have other religious obligations. That is fine and dandy that Bishop D’Arcy will continue to have goo relationships with the University and Fr. Jenkins. I will however refuse to support Notre Dame at any time. Fr. Jenkins should be excommunicated. Shame on Fr. Jenkins to invite Obama and shame on Bishop D’Arcy other related officials for not getting more involved to prevent this from happening.
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I don’t know what Bishop D’Arcy could have done or said to prevent this debaucle. In other words, I don’t know the limits on his power to direct. He could advise, I’m sure, but not direct.
 
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