Original Douay-Rheims Study Bible- Updates

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The listing on Amazon says this is Volume 2. Is there a Volume 1? I don’t see any indication on the cover in the image so I infer it might be a mistake on Amazon’s part.
If you go to OP’s page that is highlighted in his sig down where it shows ‘purchase items now’ there looks like another version or volume of Douay-Rheims Study Bible on the book of Revelation. Anyway it has a different cover.

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The listing on Amazon says this is Volume 2. Is there a Volume 1? I don’t see any indication on the cover in the image so I infer it might be a mistake on Amazon’s part.
The book of James is volume one.
 
How does your work compare with that of von Peters? It seems as if you are both attempting something quite similar.
I have not analyzed his work so I don’t know how close mine is to his, though it does sound like its similar. All my work is non-profit and is sold for the price of production, and to get one of the best Study Bibles back into common use. As I see many Catholics seeking a traditional Catholic minded Study Bible without having to break the bank in order to buy one, the Douay-Rheims Bible of 1609 in my opinion is one that you cannot go wrong, its loaded with great footnotes that are very traditional and are mostly quotes from the Early Church Fathers! It is a great resource for apologetics as well because it was put together by the Church back when the Church was defending against the reformers who were attacking the Church from all angles.
 
There are some surprising claims on the Real Douay-Rheims website. For example: “The King James Version was virtually a translation from Luther’s German to English, and NOT “diligently compared with original Hebrew and Greek” as it claimed — there being no original Hebrew or Greek manuscripts in existence.” To what extent is this true? I always thought that the King James was already taken primarily from already existing English versions.
I’m not a part of that website that makes those claims. I don’t hold the same negativity found on that site, especially the negative claims against Challoner’s revision. As I am transcribing the original Douay-Rheims, I am comparing it to Challoner’s revision, and in my opinion Challoner did an excellent job, and it was approved by the Catholic Church.
 
If you go to OP’s page that is highlighted in his sig down where it shows ‘purchase items now’ there looks like another version or volume of Douay-Rheims Study Bible on the book of Revelation. Anyway it has a different cover.

sites.google.com/site/douayrheimsstudybible/home
Exactly, those Kindle versions are the same series as the printed, but different covers because those Kindle versions were published first on Amazon Kindle. If you go to the link below one my original site, I have them all together.
 
It seems silly to do a reprint of the original Douay-Rheims, rather than the Challoner, since the original DR’s English is tortured into quasi-Latin so as to be as literal as possible. Really, you might as well just learn the Latin and read the Vulgate. Though it is perhaps somewhat reassuring that those who, as it has been said, want something more “traditional” have expanded their definitions to actually include something in English, though I can only imagine how they must tremble with the thought that anything not in Latin is as much of an occasion of sin as a redlight district.
 
It seems silly to do a reprint of the original Douay-Rheims, rather than the Challoner, since the original DR’s English is tortured into quasi-Latin so as to be as literal as possible. Really, you might as well just learn the Latin and read the Vulgate. Though it is perhaps somewhat reassuring that those who, as it has been said, want something more “traditional” have expanded their definitions to actually include something in English, though I can only imagine how they must tremble with the thought that anything not in Latin is as much of an occasion of sin as a redlight district.
The reprint is giving an update on spelling, and actually the original Douay Rheims is not hard to read when the spelling it correct, it is not that much different than Challoner’s revision. I have been comparing both as I am updating, and I have noticed that there are 2 sides that either criticize Challoner for changing too much, and those who say that the original Douay is too literal, and I personally think both critiques are misleading. And as far as the footnotes of the original, they are excellent, its like Challoner’s but on steroids. Challoner has great footnotes but very few, sometimes whole chapters without footnotes. But the original DR is loaded with tons of great footnotes that actually make it a great Bible commentary! The footnotes are the main reason I have chosen to provide this great Study Bible!

As for the translation of the Scripture text, here is a sample from Revelation 1

1 The Apocalypse of Jesus Christ which God gave to him, to make manifest to his servants the things which must be done quickly: and signified, sending by his angel to his servant John, 2 who has given testimony to the word of God, and the testimony of Jesus Christ, what things soever he has seen. 3 Blessed is he that reads and hears the words of this prophecy: and keeps those things which be written in it, for the time is near. 4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia. Grace to you and peace from *him that is, and that was, and that shall come, and from the seven spirits which are in the sight of his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ who is the faithful witness, the *first-born of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth, who has loved us, and *washed us from our sins in his blood. 6 And has made us a kingdom and priests to God and his father, to him be glory and empire for ever and ever. Amen. 7 Behold he comes with the clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they that *pricked him. And all the tribes of the earth shall bewail themselves upon him. Yea. Amen. 8 *I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and end, says our Lord God, which is, and which was, and which shall come, the Omnipotent. 9 I John your brother and partaker in tribulation, and the kingdom, and patience in Christ Jesus, was in the island, which is called Patmos, for the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. 10 I was in spirit on the Dominical day, and heard behind me a great voice as it were of a trumpet. 11 saying: That which you see, write in a book, and send to the seven churches which are in Asia, to Ephesus, and Smyrna, and Pergamus, and Thyatira, and Sardis, and Philadelphia, and Laodicea. 12 And I turned, to see the voice that spoke with me. And being turned I saw seven candlesticks of gold: 13 and in the middle of the seven candlesticks of gold, one like the Son of man, vested in a priestly garment to the feet, and girded about *near to the paps with a girdle of gold. 14 And his head and hairs were white, as white wool, and as snow, and his eyes as the flame of fire, 15 and his feet like to latten, as in a burning furnace. And his voice as of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars. And from his mouth proceeded a sharp two edged sword: and his face, as the sun shines in his virtue. 17 And when I had seen him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he put his right hand upon me, saying, Fear not. *I am the First and the Last, 18 and alive, and was dead, and behold I am living for ever and ever, and have the keys of death and of hell. 19 Write therefore the things which you have seen, and that are, and that must be done after these. 20 The sacrament of the seven stars, which you have seen in my right hand, and the seven candlesticks of gold, the seven stars, are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven candlesticks, are the seven churches.
 
COPLAND 3:
The reprint is giving an update on spelling, and actually the original Douay Rheims is not hard to read when the spelling it correct, it is not that much different than Challoner’s revision. I have been comparing both as I am updating, and I have noticed that there are 2 sides that either criticize Challoner for changing too much, and those who say that the original Douay is too literal, and I personally think both critiques are misleading. And as far as the footnotes of the original, they are excellent, its like Challoner’s but on steroids. Challoner has great footnotes but very few, sometimes whole chapters without footnotes. But the original DR is loaded with tons of great footnotes that actually make it a great Bible commentary! The footnotes are the main reason I have chosen to provide this great Study Bible!
Very true. Another point is that most people today are familiar with revisions to Challoner’s original text. The original editions of Challoner are indeed close approximations to the D/R text. Bishop Challoner made revisions where they were most called for (I think.)

To appreciate the D/R text, one must imagine a world where Protestant Bibles were flooding the streets (so to speak.) Catholics themselves were forced to use them for want of anything else. The Bibles around then (Pre-King James) were very tendentious and downright mistranslated; e.g. The Geneva Bible, The Bishops Bible, etc. It was difficult to justify Catholicism (in some instances) based on those Bibles. Enter the D/R. Here the translators give a lengthy explanation for why they chose the Vulgate, and how they did consult with the original languages in translating. They go to great lengths to explain how the current Protestant Bibles PURPOSELY mistranslated their own Greek texts to further their own agendas. This embarrassment to English Protestant Bibles was a driving force in making the King James Bible correct and honest.

In any event, the language was modern (to an Elizabethan Catholic) and the latinisms may have been a bit awkward, but did not hinder their understanding, and bolstered their appreciation for the Vulgate’s correct translation.

So for there to be a good study D/R bible is invaluable even today. And the footnotes ARE very good! 👍
 
In all honesty, while I’m wouldn’t knock the DR, I honestly prefer the New American Bible if I’m reading it for what you might call “study”. And while I may not get many agreements here, I’ve got to say that, aesthetically, the KJV is the Bible I’d rather read. But this may just be my English major prejudice.
 
By the way, a new volume is about to come out, it is the Gospel of St. Matthew! It is loaded with many great footnotes and lots of quotes from the Church Fathers!
 
Congratulations on this work. It’s splendid to hear of.

There’s nothing like this translation anywhere. 🙂
 
Dear Copland 3,
What agreat work you are doing. Will the New Douay-Rheims Study Bible be published as one complete volume when the work is finished?
 
Yes, it will be one complete volume, and it will also be single volumes and also sections, such as the 4 Gospels, Paul’s Epistles, the Catholic Epistles, Penteteuch, Historical books, etc. Also there is going to be a New Testament volume and an Old Testament.

The single volumes are nice because it can be made into larger print, whereas the bigger volumes will need smaller print in order for the book to not be 20lbs! Haha!

The Gospel of St. Matthew is going to be released Monday or Tuesday! After looking at the proof copy I am very happy with it, its very nice!

I highly recommend checking out the Douay-Rheims Study Bible Facebook page, I am giving free copies away every week on there!
 
Yes, it will be one complete volume, and it will also be single volumes and also sections, such as the 4 Gospels, Paul’s Epistles, the Catholic Epistles, Penteteuch, Historical books, etc. Also there is going to be a New Testament volume and an Old Testament.

The single volumes are nice because it can be made into larger print, whereas the bigger volumes will need smaller print in order for the book to not be 20lbs! Haha!

The Gospel of St. Matthew is going to be released Monday or Tuesday! After looking at the proof copy I am very happy with it, its very nice!

I highly recommend checking out the Douay-Rheims Study Bible Facebook page, I am giving free copies away every week on there!
This is good news! Is it possible that the commentary will be available separate from the Scripture? For example, I use my Ignatius Bible and the notes of the Haydock commentary, and although the translations are different, it still grants wonderful understanding into what is being said by the Scripture.

Though perhaps this wouldn’t be wise, as separate commentaries and translations may lead to confusion.
 
This is good news! Is it possible that the commentary will be available separate from the Scripture? For example, I use my Ignatius Bible and the notes of the Haydock commentary, and although the translations are different, it still grants wonderful understanding into what is being said by the Scripture.

Though perhaps this wouldn’t be wise, as separate commentaries and translations may lead to confusion.
That can be done, though I need to see if there is an actual demand for it. I’ve even considered coming up with a parallel volume with Challoner’s revision beside this version. As time goes on I am running on to ideas.

The footnotes is the main reason why I have chosen to do this project because they are very traditionally Catholic, and they are very passionate because they were done at a time when the Reformation was gaining momentum and the Church was making a wonderful effort to clarify and be apologetic. The Church was being attacked by all those branches of Protestant reformers, and the Church placed footnotes throughout Scripture that are even helpful for us today to answer those attacks made by modern Protestantism.
 
Dear COPLAND 3,
I believe that this work you are undertaking will be extreamly popular for all people interested in the study of Sacred Scripture and for Catholics especialy.
Do you have a time line at all for the completed work? And what is the best way for those that are interested to support, promote and let others know about your work?
 
Dear COPLAND 3,
I believe that this work you are undertaking will be extreamly popular for all people interested in the study of Sacred Scripture and for Catholics especialy.
Do you have a time line at all for the completed work? And what is the best way for those that are interested to support, promote and let others know about your work?
I think it will sure add to the options for those who appreciate traditional Catholic footnotes and introductions, and being inexpensive. As for a timeline, I don’t know yet, but as time goes on I have been gaining momentum, I’m taking one step at a time. As for support, I am trying to make it as error free and professional as I can,and hope that once people find it to be a good purchase then word of mouth will do what it does best. I am paying extra for advance distribution so that bookstores, libraries, and online distributors can be aware of it. And also I set the prices at bare minimum. I think once I at least get to a point where larger portions are being released into one volume, such as a one volume New Testament, or at least sections like the 4 Gospels, Paul’s Epistles, the Catholic Epistles, etc., then people will begin to get more interested in it. The 4 Gospels will be in the near future!
 
Fantastic COPLAND 3,
Please keep me informed of your progress.
 
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