Orthodox Church? Eastern Orthodox Church? Which is it?

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What is the name of The Christian Church that was formed after the 11th Century?

Is it The Orthodox Church or The Eastern Orthodox Church or what?
 
If it’s Eastern Orthodox Church, “eastern” as opposed to a “western Orthodox Church”?

Which would the “Western Orthodox Church” be?
 
2ndGen said:
If it’s Eastern Orthodox Church, “eastern” as opposed to a “western Orthodox Church”?

Which would the “Western Orthodox Church” be?
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I always thought the real name was the Greek Orthodox Church. 🙂

zerinus
 
They call themselves the Orthodox Church, but we call them the Eastern Orthodox Church. They are comprises of different autocephalous Churches, including several Greek Orthodox Churches but also different ones such as the Russian Orthodox Church. There are 14/15 in total (depending on who you ask).

The Oriental Orthodox Church also calls itself the Orthodox Church, and we call it Oriental Orthodox to distinguish, but the Eastern Orthodox seem to call them the Monophysites, but I may be wrong there
 
zerinus said:
I always thought the real name was the Greek Orthodox Church. 🙂

zerinus
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Well, according to them, The Greek Orthodox Church is “one of” the many Orthodox Churches, but they all fall under one “Church”.

I’m just trying to find out what the name is because they when I Google “The Orthodox Church”, no such church exists.

🤷
 
JMBNH said:
They call themselves the Orthodox Church, but we call them the Eastern Orthodox Church. They are comprises of different autocephalous Churches, including several Greek Orthodox Churches but also different ones such as the Russian Orthodox Church. There are 14/15 in total (depending on who you ask).

The Oriental Orthodox Church also calls itself the Orthodox Church, and we call it Oriental Orthodox to distinguish, but the Eastern Orthodox seem to call them the Monophysites, but I may be wrong there
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I’m all for any group calling themselves whatever they want to. Their entitled to that distinction of their choice.

But “if” they have called themselves “The Orthodox Church”, I can’t find a website for them at all.

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zerinus said:
Your questions answered here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church

zerinus
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:rotfl:

That’s what got me confused in the first place!

I typed in “The Orthodox Church” and was directed to “Eastern Orthodox Church”.

Before I believe that I was lied to when I was told that The Orthodox Church is the original Christian Church (yet I can’t find any such organization), I wanted to ask the Orthodox Christians here giving them the opportunity to renounce what Wikipedia says about them (that they are called The Eastern Orthodox Church and “not” The Orthodox Church").

👍
 
2ndGen said:
:rotfl:

That’s what got me confused in the first place!

I typed in “The Orthodox Church” and was directed to “Eastern Orthodox Church”.

Before I believe that I was lied to when I was told that The Orthodox Church is the original Christian Church (yet I can’t find any such organization), I wanted to ask the Orthodox Christians here giving them the opportunity to renounce what Wikipedia says about them (that they are called The Eastern Orthodox Church and “not” The Orthodox Church").

👍
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The article itself answers that question:

Note: Members of the Eastern Orthodox Church do not usually refer to themselves as “Eastern” Orthodox but rather with a prefix denoting their nation of origin. Thus, within this article, the terms “Greek”, “Russian”, or any other “National” Orthodox; as well as The Church, The Orthodox Church, The Byzantine Church, etc., all refer to a single unified entity, what is today commonly called the Eastern Orthodox Church.

Several other ancient churches in Eastern Europe, Western Asia, and North Africa also use the term “Orthodox”, but are distinct from the “Eastern Orthodox Church” as described in this article. See Oriental Orthodoxy.

Historically, the Orthodox Churches have been the Greek-literate churches associated with Alexandria, Constantinople (Istanbul), and other Hellenized cities, while the Roman church was associated with Latin Rome and the West. This distinction grew with the division of the Roman Empire into East and West.

zerinus
 
zerinus said:
The article itself answers that question:

Note: Members of the Eastern Orthodox Church do not usually refer to themselves as “Eastern” Orthodox but rather with a prefix denoting their nation of origin. Thus, within this article, the terms “Greek”, “Russian”, or any other “National” Orthodox; as well as The Church, The Orthodox Church, The Byzantine Church, etc., all refer to a single unified entity, what is today commonly called the Eastern Orthodox Church.

Several other ancient churches in Eastern Europe, Western Asia, and North Africa also use the term “Orthodox”, but are distinct from the “Eastern Orthodox Church” as described in this article. See Oriental Orthodoxy.

Historically, the Orthodox Churches have been the Greek-literate churches associated with Alexandria, Constantinople (Istanbul), and other Hellenized cities, while the Roman church was associated with Latin Rome and the West. This distinction grew with the division of the Roman Empire into East and West.

zerinus
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That’s not what I was told by actual Orthodox Christians.

They said that their Church is The Orthodox Church and that names don’t matter.

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The Roman Catholic Church is often referred to as the Western Church. The names Eastern and Western pertain to which part of the Roman Empire they were to be found. The Eastern Orthodox Church claims to be the Catholic Church, just as the Roman Catholic Church claims to be the Catholic Church. In the Eastern Orthodox Church, there is a communion of Churches: the Greek Church, the Russian Church, the Serbian Church, etc. The idea of the Church as a communion of Churches has mostly been lost in the Western Church, although there have been some attempts to restore it.
 
2ndGen said:
That’s not what I was told by actual Orthodox Christians.

They said that their Church is The Orthodox Church and that names don’t matter.

:confused:
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Then we are arguing over names, which is not an argument.

zerinus
 
Madaglan said:
The Roman Catholic Church is often referred to as the Western Church. The names Eastern and Western pertain to which part of the Roman Empire they were to be found. The Eastern Orthodox Church claims to be the Catholic Church, just as the Roman Catholic Church claims to be the Catholic Church. In the Eastern Orthodox Church, there is a communion of Churches: the Greek Church, the Russian Church, the Serbian Church, etc.
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Why “innovate” the name of The Eastern Church and “add” and “change” the name then if The Christian Church was always called “The Orthodox Church” then?
 
sokoticasiva said:
Roman Catholic Church?
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Where is “that” Church you just named?

I can’t seem to find it anywhere (by the way, I’d definately appreciate your (name removed by moderator)ut on a thread dedicated to that title! 👍 )
 
zerinus said:
Then we are arguing over names, which is not an argument.

zerinus
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Well, I’m trying to do research to discredit the claims of The Orthodox Church/Eastern Orthodox Church that they’ve never changed since the beginning of Christianity, but I can’t even find out what their name is. :confused:

So then, according to you, there is no “Orthodox Church”, just the “Eastern Orthodox Church” then, correct?

The Orthodox Church doesn’t even exist as an institution, there is not formally recognized orgainization called “The Orthodox Church”?
 
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Why “innovate” the name of The Eastern Church and “add” and “change” the name then if The Christian Church was always called “The Orthodox Church” then?
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Why innovate the term Pope for the bishop of Rome when he was generally referred to in earliest times as Bishop of Rome?

When the Western churches fell out of communion with those churches in the Byzantine Empire (which was the Eastern portion of the ancient Roman Empire) the majority of Orthodox Christians were Easterners.
 
Well, I’m trying to do research to discredit the claims of The Orthodox Church/Eastern Orthodox Church that they’ve never changed since the beginning of Christianity, but I can’t even find out what their name is. :confused:
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The Orthodox Church has changed since the beginning of Christianity–just not in beliefs. Deification is definitely a change! 😃
So then, according to you, there is no “Orthodox Church”, just the “Eastern Orthodox Church” then, correct?
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The Eastern Orthodox Church is the Orthodox Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, the Church of Christ, the Church of the Apostles.
The Orthodox Church doesn’t even exist as an institution, there is not formally recognized orgainization called “The Orthodox Church”?
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The Orthodox Church is not an institution. Many Popes have recognized the Eastern Churches as legitimate Churches.
 
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