ORTHODOX-VATICAN - Bartholomew: With Francis, we invite all Christians to celebrate the first synod of Nicaea in 2025 [AN]

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In an interview with AsiaNews , the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople reveals the future steps to strengthen unity between Catholics and Orthodox. In addition to the appointment of Nicaea, the first truly ecumenical council , in the autumn the next meeting of the Catholic-Orthodox Joint Commission will be held in Jerusalem, where everyone “must commit themselves without hypocrisy”.

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Wow. Hopefully these two leaders will be there at the meeting!
 
Along these lines, does anyone believe that the Bishop of Rome, the Pope, would be willing to accept the title of “First Among Equals” for the sake of reunification? Just asking.
 
I believe Papa Francis may be the one.
From what I’ve read it sounds like the job is taking quite a toll on him though, and that might be in part because he insists on his former austerity.
 
2025? Why so long? The sound bite generation won’t stand for this 🙂
 
2025? Why so long? The sound bite generation won’t stand for this 🙂
I was wondering the same thing. It seems rather strange that they’d set a date so far out, especially since anything can happen between now and 2025.
 
Maybe it’s a time set by God (for whatever reason).

All good things come to those who wait, I guess…

Now if only there was a way to unite with Protestants…it would probably take more time and effort…
 
Did you guys read the link? It’s a “gathering” to celebrate the anniversary of the First Council of Nicaea. That’s why it’s set for 2025. It’s not a council, just a big party.
 
Along these lines, does anyone believe that the Bishop of Rome, the Pope, would be willing to accept the title of “First Among Equals” for the sake of reunification? Just asking.
No that will never happen. The “first among equals” is a novel idea. There was never such a thing. Primacy entailed authority, how much of it is up for debate but never was there a “primacy of honor”. Papal infallibility and universal jurisdiction will never be given up. In fact I wonder how many know that during an apparition in South America, Mary (Our Lady of Good Success, Ecuador) in the 1600’s prophesied the proclamation of Papal infallibility two centuries before Vatican I (Which took place in the mid 1800s)

On, December 8, 1634, what is now the feast of the Immaculate Conception, three archangels and their Queen appeared to Mother Mariana. St. Gabriel was carrying a Ciborium filled with Hosts which Our Lady explained:
This signifies the Most August Sacrament of the Eucharist, which will be distributed by my Catholic priests to faithful Christians belonging to the Holy Roman, Catholic and Apostolic Church, whose visible head is the Pope, the King of Christianity. His pontifical infallibility will be declared a dogma of the Faith by the same Pope chosen to proclaim the dogma of the Mystery of My Immaculate Conception. He will be persecuted and imprisoned in the Vatican by the unjust usurpation of the Pontifical States through the iniquity, envy and avarice of an earthly monarch."
This holy Pope was Blessed Pius IX, who fulfilled every prediction made by Our Lady. His body, being exhumed for beatification in 2000, was found miraculously preserved in the tomb where it had lain for more than a century. His face still showed a striking serenity in death.

According to the prophecies of the saints, there will be reunification between the east and the west. However they all say that Russia will be the first to convert en masse. Note that they will become catholic according the the prophecies. Then later the Greeks will come back due to the holiness of this figure called the “Angelic Pope”. These are not prophecies like the wacky forgeries but real prophecies of real saints like Blessed Bartholomew, St Robert Bellarmine and many others. I will provide more quotes of such prophecies for anyone interested .

The first known prophecy of the pastor angelicus was quoted by the English polymath Roger Bacon in the 13th century:
…Forty years ago it was prophesied, and there have been many visions to the same effect, that there will be a pope in these times who will purify Canon Law and the Church of God from the sophistries and deceits of the jurists so that justice will reign over all without the rumbling of lawsuits. Because of the goodness, truth, and justice of this pope the Greeks will return to the obedience of the Roman Church, the greater part of the Tartars will be converted to the faith, and the Saracens will be destroyed. There will be one flock and one shepherd, as the prophet heard (John 10:16)…
(Taken from Roger Bacon’s The Third Work. Trans. by B McGinn Visions of the End (New York, Columbia, 1998) p190)
 
I’ll double that!

Woo…hoo…A big party with, if they live that long, two really old guys, both infected with modernism, which, btw, is highly contagious…so…maybe best to stay away.
 
No that will never happen. The “first among equals” is a novel idea. There was never such a thing. Primacy entailed authority, how much of it is up for debate but never was there a “primacy of honor”. Papal infallibility and universal jurisdiction will never be given up. In fact I wonder how many know that during an apparition in South America, Mary (Our Lady of Good Success, Ecuador) in the 1600’s prophesied the proclamation of Papal infallibility two centuries before Vatican I (Which took place in the mid 1800s)

On, December 8, 1634, what is now the feast of the Immaculate Conception, three archangels and their Queen appeared to Mother Mariana. St. Gabriel was carrying a Ciborium filled with Hosts which Our Lady explained:

This holy Pope was Blessed Pius IX, who fulfilled every prediction made by Our Lady. His body, being exhumed for beatification in 2000, was found miraculously preserved in the tomb where it had lain for more than a century. His face still showed a striking serenity in death.

According to the prophecies of the saints, there will be reunification between the east and the west. However they all say that Russia will be the first to convert en masse. Note that they will become catholic according the the prophecies. Then later the Greeks will come back due to the holiness of this figure called the “Angelic Pope”. These are not prophecies like the wacky forgeries but real prophecies of real saints like Blessed Bartholomew, St Robert Bellarmine and many others.** I will provide more quotes of such prophecies for anyone interested .**

The first known prophecy of the pastor angelicus was quoted by the English polymath Roger Bacon in the 13th century:
I’m interested.
 
According to the prophecies of the saints, there will be reunification between the east and the west. However they all say that Russia will be the first to convert en masse. Note that they will become catholic according the the prophecies. Then later the Greeks will come back due to the holiness of this figure called the “Angelic Pope”. These are not prophecies like the wacky forgeries but real prophecies of real saints like Blessed Bartholomew, St Robert Bellarmine and many others. I will provide more quotes of such prophecies for anyone interested .
Not to digress too much further…:D…but will this mass conversion to the Catholic Church come before or after Russia is finally consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?

In Christ,
MinM
 
Pontifical Supremacy for all. 👍 You could still be called “equal” though.😛 I hear the Russians are converting as we speak. 😉

Ok I’m joking but bring that stash of select Vodka you have saved, “for after”. You guys are NOT allowed any “before”. :hug1:
 
Along these lines, does anyone believe that the Bishop of Rome, the Pope, would be willing to accept the title of “First Among Equals” for the sake of reunification? Just asking.
Me personally I don’t think that will happen. Peter was the leader, the apostles (bishops) were equal, but Peter had a bigger job and was the leader.

I could see the Vatican saying, the Pope is 1, and the Patriarch of Constantinople 2.
 
Not to digress too much further…:D…but will this mass conversion to the Catholic Church come before or after Russia is finally consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?

In Christ,
MinM
Didn’t that occur already in 1986-7 by St. PPJPII?
 
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