Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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OrdinaryMelkite said:
Even though I’m not into the “happy” vibe right now about this (and surprisingly, I will pray for his almost-certain-to-be-damned-soul), I have to say----------

I don’t care what we have or we have not done to other countries---------there is NO EXCUSE for what happened ten years ago. None.

Typical moral relativism from people who have fallen for the line that the US is an imperialistic monster out to take over the world. Have we done regrettable, even immoral and evil things at times, absolutely. Does that condone what happened almost ten years ago? Absolutely not.
Please get off it--------------seriously. :rolleyes:🤷
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Pardon me? You want me to ‘get off it’ 1.5 million children but you do not want to get over
3,000? Yeah, seriously - :rolleyes: 🤷

youtube.com/watch?v=2irN1G5HiRo
 
Abyssinia said:
Is Obama in the military? Did he find the intelligence that Osama was in the compound? If you think anybody deserves cheer if you like, it should be the military.
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I have gone to other sites and ocassionally you do get the thought that perhaps Barack is trying to take a tad too much credit for this. Notice the “I,I,I” throughout the speech.

I don’t necessarily buy that, but I DO think it is very unrealistic to not think that Barry will not try to use this to maximum adavntage next year. OTOH, Bush would almost certainly have tried it, as well.

“Yes, America, I killed OBL!!! God Bless America! And remember next election------I killed OBL!” Same old, same old from both sides. :rolleyes:🤷
 
Abba said:
Pardon me? You want me to ‘get off it’ 1.5 million children but you do not want to get over
3,000? Yeah, seriously - :rolleyes: 🤷

youtube.com/watch?v=2irN1G5HiRo
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While 1.5 million children is of course, a tragedy-----------------and again, I admit we have committed atrocities-------those 1.5 million children either died from Saddam himself refusing to follow UN mandates and cutting off his people to foreign aid by his actions-----plus, in the Iraq war, innocent people unfortunately died. Not acceptable, but inevitable. We tried as much as possible (and still try to do it) to minimize casualties—but ultimately, war unfortunately, war is heartbreak and death--------one has to accept that.
 
If I had been the president in 2001 I would have obliterated bin Laden within a year’s time… I would have given Tony Blair the money and told him to put the British Ghurka’s on it. Clean and sanitary solution. I have been saying that for years. Look at how long it took. How much better would it have been handled my way…?!

My point…

It could have been… and should have been handled more quickly…
 
WoundedIcon said:
It’s a good thing to feel pity for a lost soul, for only God knows whether he was so deluded as to be excused of his crimes. I personally am excited at least to see something of a decisive victory come out of these drawn out wars, however small the victory in the larger scheme of things. But yes, it is sad that he had to go down deceived and stained with the blood of killings. I wish he could have been converted, but at least he knows the name of the True God now…

Interestingly enough, someone may want to check today’s LOTH because it is LOADED with war references.
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Too bad Bin Laden can’t come back and share.

Sorry for the sarcasm.

This guy killed a LOT OF MY FRIENDS. AND REJOICED.

Ya wonder what his last judgment was like.

May God have mercy on my soul and on the souls of all the soldiers who worked so hard to track him down and who killed and who were killed in the process … for the thoughts we had and are having … I wonder always about the souls of the soldiers [including the sailors] who were killed at Lepanto and Vienna … and in the Crusades to the Holy Land and to Spain.

He gave us the slip so many times before. Bureaucratic bungling. Leaks. Etc. Glad we were able to make sure, positively, that he was positively identified this time. Not some poor guy playing the role of “double”.

When you consider all the support he had … [living in a Mansion in the capital of Pakistan!] … gimme a break … it must have been a breakdown in his support … or some rivalry for leadership of the base … gonna be interesting.

So many of his militant followers have smuggled themselves into this country … be alert, my friends … Pakistan has been increasingly becoming more “militant” … and they have a bunch of nukes … been working on them since the 1960’s … this ain’t over … don’t start relaxing now.

It has been a looong ten years.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
Believe it or not, Hircus, I totally understand. Just like I understand the massive celebration outside of the White House and in Times Square. Don’t really condone it, but I totally understand it. The American people need to get this off their chest, ultimately. It has been nine years of pent up anger, ultimately.

I also, believe it or not, agree with the burial at sea. if we buried him over here it would turn his place into a shrine and/or some “real american” would try to dig up the body and desecrate it/tear it apart. Even I do not agree with that.
Let his body be fish food. Game over.

But I must say, the cheering and hollering was a bit much. We are better than that, even if the SOB did not deserve dignity. But yeah, I DO at least understand.
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I just tried to call a friend in Pakistan. He is in Karachi, but no answer. Checking the news I see that Karachi shut down on Sunday over violence anyway due to a political assassination. I don’t imagine the Paki’s are too happy about it. But their government cannot be trusted. Hard to believe that he was living in Islamabad. I thought that he was probably in a compound somewhere in SA, Syria or the Emirates.
 
hircus_muneris said:
I just tried to call a friend in Pakistan. He is in Karachi, but no answer. Checking the news I see that Karachi shut down on Sunday over violence anyway due to a political assassination. I don’t imagine the Paki’s are too happy about it. But their government cannot be trusted. Hard to believe that he was living in Islamabad. I thought that he was probably in a compound somewhere in SA, Syria or the Emirates.
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I’ve heard and read of several people on the internet and tv saying it was pretty obvious that OBL was not living in a cave-----the man had half a kidney and needed dialysis; come on folks—and that they had advanced the theory that he was living in a compund somewhere for years-------so yes, I get what you are saying.
Yep, Pakistan is NOT our friend. They definitely have some explaining to do. Ultimately, we did not “press” them further (even though we knew way back that OBL was in Pakistan, not Afghanistan) because they were our “ally” in the war in terror.

What is going to be funny are the folks that are going to start saying “the war on terror is done—let’s go home.” NO WAY. We have only killed a manifestation of the evil; we have not killed the evil itself------we simply killed off the most well-known manifestation of the vile Muslim ideology that feeds Mideast hatred of us.

When we get to stop Muslims believing that the only way to bring in the Apocalpse is for them to wipe us and Israel off the face of the earth, THEN the war will be over. We still have a LOT of work to do.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
I don’t care what we have or we have not done to other countries---------there is NO EXCUSE for what happened ten years ago. None.
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Bin-Ladin’s justifications and apologies show a complete disregard of cause and effect. The more lies I read, the more I think he was one of the biggest intstruments of the Father of Lies in our generation.
 
pnewton said:
Bin-Ladin’s justifications and apologies show a complete disregard of cause and effect. The more lies I read, the more I think he was one of the biggest intstruments of the Father of Lies in our generation.
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Yes, indeed. 👍
 
I know that as a priest I should be impartial but I felt a great deal of pride when I read the followig quote in the news:
And then the man behind the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil died from an American bullet to his head.
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God bless America!

I disagree with much Obama has done, but on this one I must say “job well done.”
 
pnewton said:
No, the President of the United States is not in the military. Our Constitution says that the President acts as Commander-in-Chief of the military so that they are always under control of an elected civilian leader. Here is a link if you need.
constitution.org/constit_.htm

I think the military does deserve a huge congratulations for its perserverance. That is another point. Putting the two together presents a false dichotomy. It is like saying that we have to either congratulate the military or remember the fallen in 9-11. ON thing has nothing to do with the other. I just hate to see this turn into a political issue when it is not. Let the C-in-C do his job. Until he tries to politicize it, he shouldn’t be castigate just because he is acting in his constitutional role.
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Exactly, which makes the point I was trying to make, that people should not be crediting Obama for the capture of Osama. If you want to thank anybody, thank the military that was in control and/or the elected civilian leader.
 
hircus_muneris said:
I am a former Marine. I went to Afghanistan once and to Iraq twice. I have had my own share of issues to deal with since then. I am surprised by my reaction to this news. Frankly, I had all but forgotten about him. Now, with this news I feel right now as I type this as if a great burden is being lifted from me. I will have to sort through this contemplatively, but I think it is justification or closure on some things for me. I doubt I am the only one feeling this, as I reflect on it. His death is symbolic. He personified evil in some ways. This will sound un-Christian, and I am sure that it is, but I am happy that he was gunned down and felt some measure of the terror he has inflicted. I would be disappointed to read that he died peacefully in his sleep. I know it is wrong to think that, but that is how I feel. I have some anger to work through, obviously.
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You have our thanks and may God bless you and bring your His peace.
 
I am very suspicious of the timing of this, Obama’s approval ratings are rubbish, and this will likely boost his approval ratings, for the short term anyway. Maybe for 2012?
 
NewEnglandPries said:
Divine Mercy revelations also included the concept of God’s justice…
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True. Ultimately, God will decide what to with him. It’s on his court now. Unfortunately, I don’t think OBL repented of what he did before he died-----so ultimatley, I doubt that God is reacting to OBL in a “positive” way now. Too bad. I will pray for him anyway.

I do agree with everyone-------good job, military folks!!!👍
 
I am very suspicious of the timing of this, Obama’s approval ratings are rubbish, and this will likely boost his approval ratings, for the short term anyway. Maybe for 2012?
 
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