Our 16th St. Valentine's Day and no card of gift, nothing special

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Peace-bwu:
I talked to him about it after breakfast over coffee since I could tell that he was well rested and had his obligatory, and well deserved, rest from the trip. …

I got what I wanted today, he told me what he is experiencing with this and we are going to go do something fun today to take our minds off of all this stress!

I wrote in at CA because I couldn’t talk to him about it yesterday. He deserved to have a day to “download” from his mission, but even though I respect his need for that, I was getting upset and had noone to talk to, except you great people.

Thanks for bearing with me and all my whining.
If you need somewhere to vent so that you don’t stew yourself into a frenzy and lose it when you finally have a good time to talk, you can vent and whine to me all you like. We all need that once in awhile. And look! You were not alone! Really, the ones on the forum who help the most are the ones who aren’t afraid to admit it when they need some support.

Thank you for coming back and reporting on how the conversation went, too. How differently things can look from the other side! It makes such a difference when we can see that, but imagination and empathy only get us so far. It takes communication, too. As for me, I wish I did it as well as I talk about it.

I admire how you and your husband are coping with all the trials you have to deal with. As the saying goes, “Life isn’t in holding a good hand. It’s in playing a poor hand well.” You’re showing how to make the best of it when life deals you some lousy cards. Around here, it is okay to let it show when you aren’t too pleased with what’s in your hand. For the most part, we play a friendly game.

Blessings upon you!
 
The move will be like a whole new start. Maybe God has some special friend waiting for you. It has been my experience that after a low comes something pleasant. I believe God allows us trials but knows our breaking point. The bruised reed He will not …
 
In your post #31 (which is too long to quote here), you make a number of points that suggest that you are struggling with some significant issues. You have a lot going on which tends to aggravate the stresses you have in your life–your health problems, looming PCS, his military career, and occasional marital frustrations. The cumulative effect of all these things must be overwhelming at times. Sometimes when you fix one or two–in your case by not homeschooling next year, once your have moved somewhere else, and after your surgery–things will feel enough better that you may ride out the other issues. Actually, that is when you should deal with some of the other issues. The effect of his military career on you and the drift in your marriage probably shouldn’t be addressed in the short term. But they shouldn’t be swept under the rug either. They will continue to fester or remain open wounds which won’t heal until dealt with.
 
PBWU…

I feel for you! You should be sad…a little…the thing is, by reading your posts and knowing your husband (thru your writing) one thing that you have to look forward to…your husband will keep this in his mind and make it up to you!

I would say to anyone else that St. Valentines day is just one day out of the year…and we women probably put too much importance on that day…He forgets to bring a card on Feb. 14…but on Jan. 31st he took the kids out of the house and told you to take a nap…get a bubble bath and relax…(somethin’ my H does sweet for me)

For you PBWU…this day is a double wammy because of the Anniversary…but I have faith that he will make it up to you! And I know you do too!

My Sitch. was a little different this year. We had a $700.00 tax bill due…two children’s birthdays back to back (Jan. 31 and Feb. 1) and we agreed…no gift giving this year! We will spend the evening cuddling and watchn some sappy love story…but he cheated. He went out (with the kids after telling me to nap) and got me a card, roses and chocolate…

I was guilt ridden…(the way your H felt) I cried no fair…he just winked and said “You owe me” 😉

So PBWU…wink and say you owe me…My H received a back rub…his favorite dinner…and a wife that owed him after the kids went to bed…
 
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Lillith:
My Sitch. was a little different this year. We had a $700.00 tax bill due…two children’s birthdays back to back (Jan. 31 and Feb. 1) and we agreed…no gift giving this year! We will spend the evening cuddling and watchn some sappy love story…but he cheated. He went out (with the kids after telling me to nap) and got me a card, roses and chocolate…

I was guilt ridden…(the way your H felt) I cried no fair…he just winked and said “You owe me” 😉

So PBWU…wink and say you owe me…My H received a back rub…his favorite dinner…and a wife that owed him after the kids went to bed…
Aaaawwww, that’s so sweet! :love:
 
PBWU–You started your original post stating that you have been “blissfully married for 10 years”. Yet in subsequent posts you indicate that all is not blissful. Of course, that is completely understandable after 10 years of marriage and the related stresses that come with life and kids. You seem to be a very intelligent woman and in touch with your own feelings. Could it be that you are struggling especially with the issues related to your husband’s military career and with the drift in your marriage? Those issues are hard to resolve but are critical and need to be addressed. Issues like that tend to breed resentment if they are buried, rather than discussed as a couple.
 
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Peace-bwu:
Divorce is not an issue, no problems in the bedroom, Giving him a nice Valentines day gift on Valentines day was not a set up nor did it have anything behind it other than wanting to give him a nice gift, which he totally appreciated and played with all day. It helped with the 'download" time, because he had a new toy to play with. I actually planned it that way. I go out of my way to facilitate his “plugging back in” I am well accustomed to living that successfully, but was a little sad this time that he couldn’t make an exception and give a little more, and I didnt 'expect him to play the game all day, but I’m over it,.

My sadness stems from everything I have going on from health problems to military life draining me and watching it have a bad affect on my family. It made me really sad that he didn’t take the time to do somethign nice for Valentines day, but he did something nice the next day. So all square. We have also been checking off our “must do” list to cut through as much stress as possible. We are waiting for orders (to move where, when how, etc.) and we want to have my surgery done before then. I am also doubling up on homeschool and doing school on saturdays so that the surgery/move won’t put us behind. They will be going to a mainstream school next year so we don’t want to have to do school in the summer. They are in the 4th quarter of their curriculum now so we are in the homestretch. Once they finish we will just give them educational games, books and art projects to pass the time.

Hopefully the move I have talked about will make things easier on our family where he can have his career but also give me a little balance. I’ve been running a marathon for at least 7 years, and would rather remedy the problem than crash and have worse problems years down the line, or let it become a point of resentment. I would much rather recognize problems and repair them if possible before they become bigger problems.
I am glad that most of those things aren’t an issue for your marriage.

Finding the problems before they become big is so vital.

I am sure you probably already know this, but the divorce rate firemen, police and military is 80% according to a study I read. So those of us who have guys/girls in those carreers, have to be especially pro-active in our marriages.

I pray your surgery will go smoothly.

God Bless,
Maria
 
My dad always said, “If you want a good marriage give 100% and expect nothing back. Take anything you get as gravy.”

When I feel down that my hubby has forgotten or disregarded any of these events, I call up some single women that lament about all the good men being taken.

I got one (no matter how much he hates “Hallmark Holidays”) and I thank God every day for him.

I would not go back to the single life if someone paid me.
 
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ReginaNova:
PBWU–You started your original post stating that you have been “blissfully married for 10 years”. Yet in subsequent posts you indicate that all is not blissful. Of course, that is completely understandable after 10 years of marriage and the related stresses that come with life and kids. You seem to be a very intelligent woman and in touch with your own feelings. Could it be that you are struggling especially with the issues related to your husband’s military career and with the drift in your marriage? .
You are right. A marriage relationship is a complex thing with lots of intricate details. We are extremely happy* with each other*. Our personalities blend well together, we enjoy the same things in life, same values. usually the same parenting approach. It is the situation we are in and the outside stresses that are having an affect. Since 9/11 he has been going on missions on average every two weeks, but sometimes there will be a longer lull or other times he is gone for three weeks, home for 24 hrs. out for two weeks home for 2 days back out for 3 weeks. Even if he was home for a several week stretch he had local missions that are nearly as exhausting for him. It’s hard on the family, no matter how well we deal with it. After two years of that nonstop flying + one 120 day deployment to Spain, he did what he could to get more office (squadron) responsibilities which kept him home all summer with office work and local training missions. By the end of the summer he was the worst version of himself on a bad day, only it was all day every day for months. I realized it was because he wasn’t doing what he loves, flying around the world, the risk, the adventure and experiencing new foods, cultures and the high pressure, high importance job. So I decided to just give him the permission he thought he needed to go back to the previous mission level.

I put all my effort into making a happy homelife for my children, their education and aside from a few responsibilites with the squadron wives group and teaching 5th grade RE on base, I have very little time to do anything, except fool around at CA, read or scrapbook,while they are sitting at their desks working. I have to stay in the room or they start to play and goof off, so I either read or post on CA.

The quality of housing has been a constant issue. For 5 yrs we were in the middle of a 5 unit row house. At first our neighbors were great, but with the housing boom, everyone bought and so they started letting single airmen and young couples without children move in around us. They were loud, wild, foul mouthed, which I could stay away from, but it was the unkept dogs that were a problem. The couple we shared a wall and backyard with were 17 and 18yo newlyweds who adopted 3 dogs from the pound right away. One was a German shepherd mix who wanted to tear us apart, a beagle who ran in our house everytime we opened the back door and some other dog. The smell from the walls was horrible, especially in my daughter’s room. After a yr of trying to work it out with them, we got housing involved. They had a rabbit and cat in the room with my daughter’s wall, a guinea pig living “free range” in teh mstr. bath, the back yard was piled so high with dog poo that DH finally cleaned it up adn filled two trashbags! My children were bitten twice over 5 yrs of living there, There were also alot of unstable neighbors, one a voodoo preistess, another had two of her miscarried fetus’s in her kitchen freezer next to her kid’ spopsicles. I took dinner over once because she was ill, just being a good neighbor, when she said “do you want to see my sweet babies?” I thought she was going to show pictures, but she opened her freezer to show mason jars with babies in them, with a little frozen liquid. Nighmarish! :bigyikes: It was a horrid place to live with many more stories! We moved to an NCO duplex as ASA he made rank. The base said it would be at least 3yrs before they demolish it, but this fall they gave us notice for summer, then a few weeks ago they said we needed to move out by April. So we are hoping we receive orders that will coincide with the move from this house, or we will need to rent a house for a few months between the two.

Put all that stress with my health and pending surgery (we don’t have a date yet) the base just informed DH that he has to to to the NCO academy in April away from home for two months (same time as move/ surgery) and 3 of the women I know here are going through divorces/ unfaithful husbands, and call / visit me to be their supportive friend…

OH my gosh, yes, this long thread continues…
 
All that with the inherent everyday stresses of parenting/ homeschooling and I realize that I was “extra” emotional about Valentine’s Day because of illness and frustrations w being a military wife. Most of my friends tend to be officer’s wives and so I also have the sense of always keeping my friendships appropriate with our husbands. I’m usually the only SGT’s wife whenever I get together with fellow wives, which everyone is usually “cool” with, but occasionally say things like “UGH how can you stand to live there?” or “Why doesn’t your husband just become an officer?” or "Why don’t you just send your kids to Holy Cross like we do? I’m in a group of amazingly strong, intelligent and fun women, with whom I have alot in common, except when it comes to those material things, like beautiful houses etc. so I sometimes feel like the lower class woman in Jane Austin novel. :rotfl:

Just about every aspect of my life is a giant ball of stress right now. As my Grandmother used to say “When it rains, it pours.”

Our marriage itself is like the calm in our storm, so the thought of not having that made me feel like I was struggling for a life preserver. If only the silly man had given me a card and a box of chocolates or some other small thing, I wouldn’t have relayed all the drama on my favorite website!

I must say all your suggestions and comments helped me to understand alot and to realize I had no reason to worry, just to continue to treat my marriage like the treasure it is.

**At least I didn’t get one of those monkeys!!!👍 **

**PS. **Sorry, I tend to write abnormally long posts. I’m a fast typer, however, I write more than I talk. I’m a listener so that’s a plus for other people in live conversation, but it doesn’t help you poor folks much. :whistle:
 
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BLB_Oregon:
If you need somewhere to vent so that you don’t stew yourself into a frenzy and lose it when you finally have a good time to talk, you can vent and whine to me all you like. We all need that once in awhile. And look! You were not alone! Really, the ones on the forum who help the most are the ones who aren’t afraid to admit it when they need some support.

Thank you for coming back and reporting on how the conversation went, too. How differently things can look from the other side! It makes such a difference when we can see that, but imagination and empathy only get us so far. It takes communication, too. As for me, I wish I did it as well as I talk about it.

I admire how you and your husband are coping with all the trials you have to deal with. As the saying goes, “Life isn’t in holding a good hand. It’s in playing a poor hand well.” You’re showing how to make the best of it when life deals you some lousy cards. Around here, it is okay to let it show when you aren’t too pleased with what’s in your hand. For the most part, we play a friendly game.

Blessings upon you!
Thanks,
I am usually the one everyone comes to talk with when they are having a hard time. I have three women who, as I said before, are having a bad time divorce/ infidelity, but as I was writing that last night one of my friends called, so happy that they are working things out, so sometimes all that talking helps!

As you can see from the above post I took you seriously. That was one heck of a long post and you’re probably thinking "Mercy! I didn’t know she’d take me that seriously!
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
My dad always said, “If you want a good marriage give 100% and expect nothing back. Take anything you get as gravy.”

When I feel down that my hubby has forgotten or disregarded any of these events, I call up some single women that lament about all the good men being taken.

I got one (no matter how much he hates “Hallmark Holidays”) and I thank God every day for him.

I would not go back to the single life if someone paid me.
Your dad is a wise man, but sometimes I just want another scoop of gravy on my mashed potatoes. 😛

My dad would say something similar, but he is also Mr. Valentine, he still sends me valentines and a box of chocolates, as well as my kids now. Maybe that is what I miss too. Every Valentine’s Day my dad would leave a card and box of chocolates on the kitchen table for each of the 4 kids and something EXTRA special for mom. I guess Dad set the bar high for his daughters!
 
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Peace-bwu:
Thanks,
I am usually the one everyone comes to talk with when they are having a hard time. I have three women who, as I said before, are having a bad time divorce/ infidelity, but as I was writing that last night one of my friends called, so happy that they are working things out, so sometimes all that talking helps!

As you can see from the above post I took you seriously. That was one heck of a long post and you’re probably thinking "Mercy! I didn’t know she’d take me that seriously!
Oh, heavens, you haven’t seen the kind of posts I usually write. Yes, I’m a fast typer, too, I’m sure that’s it! :whistle:

If some little good comes out of any of them, so much the better! You seem like a great lady, I’m very happy to have been of any help to you.
 
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Peace-bwu:
Your dad is a wise man, but sometimes I just want another scoop of gravy on my mashed potatoes. 😛

My dad would say something similar, but he is also Mr. Valentine, he still sends me valentines and a box of chocolates, as well as my kids now. Maybe that is what I miss too. Every Valentine’s Day my dad would leave a card and box of chocolates on the kitchen table for each of the 4 kids and something EXTRA special for mom. I guess Dad set the bar high for his daughters!
It must be the men who are willing to make the wife and children feel special that have sayings like this!
My Dad would even give us “Unbirthday Presents” on his birthday.
He’s been gone since 1982. It was hard losing such a good dad so young, but he taught me what kind of man to marry.

And God blessed me with a fine example for my daughters as well.
Women who think that men are not important in the lives of children are just nuts!
 
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Peace-bwu:
The quality of housing has been a constant issue. For 5 yrs we were in the middle of a 5 unit row house. At first our neighbors were great, but with the housing boom, everyone bought and so they started letting single airmen and young couples without children move in around us. They were loud, wild, foul mouthed, which I could stay away from, but it was the unkept dogs that were a problem. The couple we shared a wall and backyard with were 17 and 18yo newlyweds who adopted 3 dogs from the pound right away. One was a German shepherd mix who wanted to tear us apart, a beagle who ran in our house everytime we opened the back door and some other dog. The smell from the walls was horrible, especially in my daughter’s room. After a yr of trying to work it out with them, we got housing involved. They had a rabbit and cat in the room with my daughter’s wall, a guinea pig living “free range” in teh mstr. bath, the back yard was piled so high with dog poo that DH finally cleaned it up adn filled two trashbags! My children were bitten twice over 5 yrs of living there, There were also alot of unstable neighbors, one a voodoo preistess, another had two of her miscarried fetus’s in her kitchen freezer next to her kid’ spopsicles. I took dinner over once because she was ill, just being a good neighbor, when she said “do you want to see my sweet babies?” I thought she was going to show pictures, but she opened her freezer to show mason jars with babies in them, with a little frozen liquid. Nighmarish! :bigyikes: It was a horrid place to live with many more stories! We moved to an NCO duplex as ASA he made rank. The base said it would be at least 3yrs before they demolish it, but this fall they gave us notice for summer, then a few weeks ago they said we needed to move out by April. So we are hoping we receive orders that will coincide with the move from this house, or we will need to rent a house for a few months between the two.
And the Garrison Commander always says “It’s a privilege to live in military housing”.

Umm, I don’t think so.

If this is the privilege, what’s the penalty?
 
My husband simply doesn’t believe in Valentine’s Day. The only reason I get anything at all is that he doesn’t want me to be the only one at work to not get a delivery.
 
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ReginaNova:
And the Garrison Commander always says “It’s a privilege to live in military housing”.

Umm, I don’t think so.

If this is the privilege, what’s the penalty?
Yes, we had a crash course on base housing over the past few years! At first all was well but with the housing market so good here, it became a weeding out process of all the descent ppl. so that it really did feel like a punishment to live here, LOL! We were in a section of base that had developed a reputation for all kinds of problems from the most Ambulance calls to the most arrests, theift, and most calls about dog bites and loud music. Every time my mom visited she would see and hear and smell the dogs who shared our fence and say

"Honey, you are doing your time in purgatory, so you will go straight to heaven, you are doing *your *purgatory on Earth! "

We learned alot from that experience about how to make a home the oasis from the outside world, and tried to find a positive in it all, and how to be kind to less than hospitable neighbors and work with them as best as we could! We learned alot about toleration, because it was either tolerate or be angry all the time! We got through it!

People always joke about trailor parks, but this base housing life took the fruit cake. 😃

Not *all *of base housing is bad, When we chose our NCO duplex we happened to find one next to the base commander’s house, so we knew it would never be allowed to be that bad, we have great neighbors sharing our walls and our backyard is huge, this summer was like a vacation! It’s hard to believe that we are only 3 streets down and it’s a totally different environment!
 
We purposely DON"T do anything special - other than making a point of spending TIME together. That said, I do find I have to remind my husband of our anniversary and my birthday. He’s a guy and it’s just not his thing. He doesn’t care much about his birthday. BUT, if my birthday comes and I didn’t remind him, he does get upset becuase he truly would have like to do something.

Several weeks before the next Valentines Day, take the initiative and ask him if he would like to exchange gifts OR just spend some special time together. If you wait again, you will be dissappointed. So give him a heads up. Many guys need this kind of nudge and really appreciate it.
 
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