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I voted Other, Ron Paul would be my choice.
How am I wrong?Wrong but thanks for the B+.![]()
They (did) a lot of work providing security for Iraqi politicians, and civillian convoy protection.I was thinking of Blackwater USA.
I’m serious. I didn’t understand what you meant there. How are capitalism and abortion linked?Very funny.![]()
I am not an acolyte of Rand. I am only giving you my humble observations of the behavior of this society as government has intruded into the markets to distort its working to the favor of legislature’s benefactors. Also from observing the despair and lack of civility at the County Jobs and family Service Center I witnessed the empty soul draining atmosphere of government charity. There is no virtue in coerced charity.How am I wrong?
About as scary (and by scary, I mean stupid) as Glenn Beck’s rants about how socialism has infiltrated the left.You are responding to Atlas Shrugged 101 rantings inspired by the philosophy of Ayn Rand. What else do you expect? I keep telling people it’s infiltrated the conservative movement, but all the good Christians on this site seem to want to ignore it.
Scary if you ask me.
Anybody who ever mentions Abp. Weakland’s opus should be immediately referred to Motu Proprio Apostolos Suos, which implemented the following complementary norms to the CIC:The most notable theory of economics ever put together by a group affiliated with the Catholic Church is the School of Salemanca in the 1600s, who were disciples of St. Thomas Aquinas. These economic theories evolved to later become known as the Austrian School of Economics. As far as I know, the Catholic Church has put together theological principles on good governance and civil society and doesn’t endorse any one particular economic theory (although the Distributionist theory was put together by some early 20th century British Catholics. It never caught hold anywhere).
So, again, I ask, what economic theory do you subscribe to, because the Catholic Church doesn’t have one.
Who said that? Or is this another one of your unscientific anecdotal comments?Yes, I had it with that bunch when I read their suggestion that the way to deal with the war in Iraq (back then) was to level Baghdad and its other cities with carpet bombing sparing no one. They were serious as they always are.
You are responding to Atlas Shrugged 101 rantings inspired by the philosophy of Ayn Rand. What else do you expect? I keep telling people it’s infiltrated the conservative movement, but all the good Christians on this site seem to want to ignore it.
Scary if you ask me.
Spoken like a true disciple of Ayn Rand! You deserve a B+, I’d give you an A, but you forgot to cite your source. Sorry![]()
Is there anything else you can do but call people names and engage in ad hominem attacks? Why don’t you actually address the substance of the post? It raised the issue of how much of our work and salary/wages during the year goes to pay taxes - money confiscated from us by politicians in Washington DC and redistributed & trickled down to cronies and maybe a few poor people - who then become dependent on the handouts. Why not address the issue? Is it because you can’t?You a Randian? Say it isn’t so, Christine!!
I’m so sorry that it touched a nerve with you to read something critical of the Ayn Rand Institute.Who said that? Or is this another one of your unscientific anecdotal comments?
You are as adept at ad hominems as anyone else, I notice.money confiscated from us by politicians in Washington DC and redistributed & trickled down to cronies and maybe a few poor people - who then become dependent on the handouts. Why not address the issue? Is it because you can’t?
That’s not an ad hominem; it’s a criticism of our government, not of another person in the thread.You are as adept at ad hominems as anyone else, I notice.
I stand corrected. It wasn’t ad hominem, it was inflammatory, and IMO unnecessary to portray taxation as confiscation, as loot, and the distribution as cronyism. It turns me, for one, off as to anything a writer using such terms might have to say that might be of value.That’s not an ad hominem; it’s a criticism of our government, not of another person in the thread.
Everything you have bolded DOES happen. Taxation IS confiscation, and the loot does get passed down to cronies. Sorry, but that’s just the price everybody pays to live in a society. And I, for one, have no admiration at all for Ayn Rand.
No, criticism of Ayn Rand doesn’t bother me - I reject her objectivist philosophy and certainly her atheism. But I note that her brand of atheism didn’t inspire her disciples to kill millions of people the way leftist atheism did. What touched a nerve was the knee-jerk ad hominem - in response to someone’s post critical of how our entitlement system is set up. Instead of actually answering any substance, you and another poster merely called him names: “you’re just an Ayn Rand disciple”. That tells me you really have nothing much of substance to say - which you confirmed in a later post when you said: “I abstain from subscribing to any one in particular. I am an attorney and my work doesn’t require me get involved in economics”Code:I'm so sorry that it touched a nerve with you to read something critical of the Ayn Rand Institute. .
Fine, then I will dismiss what you posted. What were you complaining earlier about someone calling a group of people an angry mob? Now you refer to a group of people as wanting to level a whole city and kill all the innocent people? A serious accusation with not citation whatsoever. To use your own words: “This post IMO is rather uncharitable”Of course, it’s unscientific.
Hyperbole, probably. Not inflammatory.I stand corrected. It wasn’t ad hominem, it was inflammatory, and IMO unnecessary to portray taxation as confiscation, as loot, and the distribution as cronyism. It turns me, for one, off as to anything a writer using such terms might have to say that might be of value.
I’d love to be shown the specific post where I said, “you’re just an Ayn Rand disciple.” You can do that, can’t you?Instead of actually answering any substance, you and another poster merely called him names: “you’re just an Ayn Rand disciple”. That tells me you really have nothing much of substance to say - which you confirmed in a later post when you said: “I abstain from subscribing to any one in particular. I am an attorney and my work doesn’t require me get involved in economics”
Indeed.
Fine. You don’t have to take anything I say seriously any more than I ever take anything you say, on any subject, seriously. That includes whom to vote for and why, BTW. True, I have no citation, as the article which urged city busting of our enemy dates back to the beginning of the war. I don’t save those citations in anticipation of someone like you taking offense a decade after the fact.Now you refer to a group of people as wanting to level a whole city and kill all the innocent people? A serious accusation with not citation whatsoever. To use your own words: “This post IMO is rather uncharitable”
WOW!I’d, and that anti-abortion, your hobbyhorse
Now you’re just being disengenuous. Here you go:Code:I'd love to be shown the specific post where I said, "you're just an Ayn Rand disciple." You can do that, can't you?
To bellasbane’s ad hominem, you responded -You are responding to Atlas Shrugged 101 rantings inspired by the philosophy of Ayn Rand. What else do you expect? I keep telling people it’s infiltrated the conservative movement, but all the good Christians on this site seem to want to ignore it.
Scary if you ask me.
Yes, I had it with that bunch when I read their suggestion that the way to deal with the war in Iraq (back then) was to level Baghdad and its other cities with carpet bombing sparing no one. They were serious as they always are.
Which is why I dismissed your accusation. If you accuse people of wanting to carpet bomb a city, you should really provide a citation. Perhaps you hold yourself to a different standard?True, I have no citation.
I assure you Rich, abortion for me is much more than my “hobby horse”. You are belittling a cause that I believe in very sincerely and deeply.Oh, yes, I believe that there is nothing too uncharitable when speaking of the people at the Ayn Rand Instutute. You are aware, or maybe you’re not, that the Institute is anti-Catholic, believes that altruism is wrong, and that anti-abortion, your hobbyhorse, is another foolish bit of altruism.
Hobbyhorse: a topic to which one constantly reverts. No belittling anti-abortion.WOW!![]()
I’m very aware of the meaning and how it is generally used.Hobbyhorse: a topic to which one constantly reverts. No belittling anti-abortion.