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[rlg94086]

I second that. Our primary is not until May 8.

Great. So, you still have a say in the nomination.

 

[KevinAK]

Hey, can we change the poll since Senator Santorum just dropped out? I’d like to see the # of people who switch their support to Gingrich, Paul, Romney, or none of the above.

None of the above for me.

 

[AlwaysCurious]

Great. So, you still have a say in the nomination.

Yeah…I’m wondering if the Ron Paul campaign will now claim this is a 2-man race

 

[rlg94086]

Yeah…I’m wondering if the Ron Paul campaign will now claim this is a 2-man race

Whoa, whoa, whoa…don’t forget Gingrich.

 

[iluvburpees]

I’m rather curious as to why Ron Paul isn’t on the list. Last I checked, he’s still in the race. That’s probably why there’s all those “other” votes. I’ve seen these polls elsewhere on the web where Paul is excluded, and the “other” vote is loaded.

With regard to Paul’s chances, too many people are unfortunately ignorant of some very interesting polls. Paul consistently does extremely well - sometimes the best - in a head-to-head matchup against Obama. From a reasoning perspective, there’s no realistic way for a republican to defeat Obama without pulling a substantial number of democrats and independents from Obama. Again, based on polls and the crowds, Paul takes loads of those two voters. In key swing states, Paul also does very well (Iowa poll ronpaul2012.com/2012/02/20/ron-paul-leads-obama-in-key-swing-state-of-iowa/).

Based on what the media tells us about the delegates, yes, Romney will inevitably win. But based on reality, the race is far from over. The reality is this - those numbers you see with Romney having 600 or so delegates and Paul less than 100 are fake. Hundreds of those delegates have not been decided at all. They will not, in fact, be decided for a while. The delegates process, in many cases, is not based off the straw poll - the beauty contest - that many of us see as the candidates “winning.” Paul has consistently focused primarily on the delegates, and it is paying off. He has had numerous victories thus far in winning the all-important delegates, and because of his incredible organization and passionate supporters, he will likely continue to grab majorities of delegates. Here are just a couple of examples:

dailypaul.com/224076/ron-paul-sweeps-all-delegates-from-nye-county-nevada

kansascity.com/2012/03/24/3511021/ron-paul-gets-most-delegates-from.html

docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1_oQeRRfL8kW70ndsEt-aboIHVITOL5ZP5rpvicUaRSI&pli=1

Thus, it is a two-man race between Romney and Paul.

If anyone’s interested in reading a short summary of Paul’s stances on key issues, read this. My friend wrote it up and I believe it makes sense.

docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1_oQeRRfL8kW70ndsEt-aboIHVITOL5ZP5rpvicUaRSI&pli=1

In Our Lady,

A Catholic

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Great. So, you still have a say in the nomination.

Ya, the people who haven’t had a chance to vote yet have as much say as the chinese students in Tienament Square.

 

[rlg94086]

Ya, the people who haven’t had a chance to vote yet have as much say as the chinese students in Tienament Square.

So, you’re saying that a vote for a candidate who has no chance means you are just wasting your vote? You are starting to come around to my way of thinking…

 

[BListon]

Well… Santorum just left the race… now what?

 

[ishii]

As one that was not allowed any say in the nomination, I will reject the solidarity argument. That should only apply to those who were allowed to nominate him.

I am hoping that there will be someone third party running that is more in line with Catholic teaching that I can vote for with a better conscience.

I think we all had a say, if we wanted to. You could have moved to a state that has an ealier primary if you wanted to guarentee that you could participate in a meaningful way. Just like in the general election, if the election is a landslide and its obvious that a candidate has the election won even though some states haven’t finished voting yet, the voters in those other states can’t say, " I wasn’t allowed a say" because you don’t know if the election will be close or a landslide.

Ishii

 

[ishii]

Santorum’s out. Gingrich is broke. Paul is ignored. I guess its Romney. Yipee.

Now now…when has their ever been a perfect nominee? Reagan? He was anything but - he was trailing Carter until the debates when he pulled ahead right before the election. Romney has every chance to help turn the economy around and nominate good justices. He has just secured the nomination and some are already complaining. Give the man a chance - you may be pleasantly surprised.

Ishii

 

[rlg94086]

Now now…when has their ever been a perfect nominee? Reagan? He was anything but - he was trailing Carter until the debates when he pulled ahead right before the election. Romney has every chance to help turn the economy around and nominate good justices. He has just secured the nomination and some are already complaining. Give the man a chance - you may be pleasantly surprised.

Ishii

He hasn’t secured the nomination yet. There is still time for the Ron Paul surge.

 

[ishii]

He hasn’t secured the nomination yet. There is still time for the Ron Paul surge.

You don’t hear from Ron Paul much. I suppose some would say its a media conspiracy by the “establishment” Republicans. But the reality is, Ron Paul, however good his ideas, is just not the candidate to win. For his ideas to prevail, a better candidate who can appeal to a wider audience (without compromising on principle too much) will be necessary. Ron Paul was always a fringe candidate.

Ishii

 

[pnewton]

How were you not allowed any say in the nomination?

I have not been allowed to vote. I may be allowed that chance on May 29, or I may be allowed only to vote for the nominee, or *not *vote for the nominee, you know, like the way democracy works in totalitarian mock elections.

 

[pnewton]

I think we all had a say, if we wanted to. You could have moved …

LOL! And people wonder why some of us Texans would want to secede.

 

[rlg94086]

I have not been allowed to vote. I may be allowed that chance on May 29, or I may be allowed only to vote for the nominee, or *not *vote for the nominee, you know, like the way democracy works in totalitarian mock elections.

So, Ron Paul is going to withdraw from the race before your primary? That wouldn’t be the rest of the country’s fault.

You’ll have to remind me how these totalitarian mock elections work. Do they involve multiple candidates campaigning over the entire nation and winning/losing competitively contested primaries? I don’t remember reading about those in the news.

The hyperbole from you and Scott is just plain silly. This happens to multiple states every election. I’m sorry your state’s primary was moved. Having been there (I’m originally from California), “I feel your pain.” My heart also goes out to all those poor Democrats who didn’t get to choose their candidate this election. That said, we are hardly China, or North Korea, etcetera.

 

[rlg94086]

I demand that CAF offer us a smallest-violin-playing-the-saddest-song smiley for our disenfranchised voters who think they live in North Korea.

 

[GEddie]

LOL! And people wonder why some of us Texans would want to secede.

Only nonthinking Texans want that; after all, we gave up 1/3 of our square mileage to be part of this country.

However tacked-off some of our people may be at occurrences in DC, it’s not worth having to go through customs just to go to Vegas

ICXC NIKA

 

[bcra]

my answer to all this is we sit or kneel down and pray that our father in heaven will help us decide who our next president will be. pray the rosary that is all we can do and hope our prayers get answered on election day. its our choice so let God help us and lead the way God bless you as you cast that vote

 

[ishii]

LOL! And people wonder why some of us Texans would want to secede.

Nice non-answer, as usual.

Ishii

 

[iluvburpees]

You don’t hear from Ron Paul much. I suppose some would say its a media conspiracy by the “establishment” Republicans. But the reality is, Ron Paul, however good his ideas, is just not the candidate to win. For his ideas to prevail, a better candidate who can appeal to a wider audience (without compromising on principle too much) will be necessary. Ron Paul was always a fringe candidate.

Ishii

Hi Ishii

I’m glad you like Ron’s ideas, or at least some of them. That said, I have to correct you on your “fringe” comments. The fact is, without Ron Paul as the nominee, it will be very difficult for the gop to win the presidency. The reason is actually very simple. To win, you NEED to appeal to the independents. In fact, if a republican wants to win, he essentially has to grab a large number of independents and/or democrats to actually win. Many might be surprised that about 1/4 of registered voters are independents. And according to one source from a couple years ago, 43% of registered voters are democrats, and 33% are republicans. Ron Paul is the only one in the race, republican or democrat, who is offering real change. Romney is simply Bush on drugs, as Obama was and is Bush on steroids. They’re all essentially the same. Paul is the only one who actually talks about, challenges, and wants to investigate the Fed, as well as eventually faze it out. He wants to overturn the 16th amendment, no other candidate will say something about the income tax so drastic as that. Paul is the only anti-war candidate - which, if we remember, was George Bush’s policy when he ran and won in 2000 as an non-interventionist. Paul would not spy on, assassinate, or indefinitely detain without trial American citizens without due process of law - in other words, he vehemently opposes the Patriot act and it’s worsened successor, the NDAA, while Romney and Obama both support it. All of these things and many others are reasons why he does so well among independents AND frustrated democrats.

Lest we say that this is only true in theory, there have been countless polls showing Paul to do the best among independents - including against Obama. Here are just a few:

reuters.com/article/2012/03/23/idUS22598+23-Mar-2012+BW20120323

washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/a-stunning-40-of-americans-are-now-independent-ron-paul-polls-highest-among-independents-and-independents-would-vote-for-paul-over-obama.html

(According to this second link, a whopping 40% of Americans are independent. I suppose it’s grown tremendously recently!)

freeindependentsun.com/republic/what-the-new-ppp-3-way-race-poll-shows-only-a-ron-paul-led-republican-ticket-can-beat-obama/

ronpaulrevolution.us/independent-run-by-ron-paul-would-pull-17-percent-of-presidential-vote/

In Our Lady,

A Catholic