Our Profound Ignorance of the Crimes of Communism

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I am going out now so I won’t be able to respond to you for some hours, but after quickly reading your reply I notice something strange. You are aware that libertarian socialism is a thing, right, and that it predates the American capitalist use of the term? Socialists were the first and original libertarians, referring to 19th century anarchists and such, and the term was later appropriated by the capitalist “libertarians” of today, that I prefer to call propertarians. For example, anarcho-communists like Kropotkin and anarcho-mutualists like Proudhon would both be considered libertarian socialists.

I am not a libertarian socialist nor am I against the use of what I would consider to be a state apparatus under socialism, but I’ll clarify my position later. I’m just pointing out that the distinction you make between libertarianism and socialism is wrong.

Also, I know what socialism/communism meant to Marx because I have read Marx. It certainly wasn’t some kind of bizarre hierarchical, bureaucratic mega-corporation with a monopoly on the entire economy, as you seem to be implying it was.
 
If the pro-communist posters would be so kind as to answer a few questions, I’d appreciate it:

e. Why don’t capitalistic countries turn their armies on protesting citizens?
What about Chile, Argentina, and Greece?

Bahrain turned their armed forces against their citizens. US ally Egypt with al-Sisi is pretty brutal.

Tell me how cruel was Jaruzelski versus Pinochet and Videla. How many people did Jaruzekski torture and murder?

Also:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

About the use of the military against protestors.

From wikipedia:
A significant historical debate concerns the degree of terror in the Red Army. The British historian Antony Beevor noted the “sinister” message from the Stalingrad Front’s Political Department on 8 October 1942 that: “The defeatist mood is almost eliminated and the number of treasonous incidents is getting lower” as an example of the sort of coercion Red Army soldiers experienced under the Special Detachments (later to be renamed SMERSH).[45]:p.154–168 On the other hand, Beevor noted the often extraordinary bravery of the Soviet soldiers in a battle that was only comparable to Verdun, and argued that terror alone cannot explain such self-sacrifice.[31]:p.154–168 Richard Overy addresses the question of just how important the Red Army’s coercive methods were to the Soviet war effort compared with other motivational factors such as hatred for the enemy. He argues that, though it is “easy to argue that from the summer of 1942 the Soviet army fought because it was forced to fight,” to concentrate solely on coercion is nonetheless to “distort our view of the Soviet war effort.”[46] After conducting hundreds of interviews with Soviet veterans on the subject of terror on the Eastern Front – and specifically about Order No. 227 (“Not a step back!”) at Stalingrad – Catherine Merridale notes that, seemingly paradoxically, “their response was frequently relief.”[47] Infantryman Lev Lvovich’s explanation, for example, is typical for these interviews; as he recalls, "t was a necessary and important step. We all knew where we stood after we had heard it. And we all – it’s true – felt better. Yes, we felt better."[48]
Many women fought on the Soviet side, or were under fire. As General Chuikov acknowledged, “Remembering the defence of Stalingrad, I can’t overlook the very important question … about the role of women in war, in the rear, but also at the front. Equally with men they bore all the burdens of combat life and together with us men, they went all the way to Berlin.”[49] At the beginning of the battle there were 75,000 women and girls from the Stalingrad area who had finished military or medical training, and all of whom were to serve in the battle.[50] Women staffed a great many of the anti-aircraft batteries that fought not only the Luftwaffe but German tanks.[51] Soviet nurses not only treated wounded personnel under fire but were involved in the highly dangerous work of bringing wounded soldiers back to the hospitals under enemy fire.[52] Many of the Soviet wireless and telephone operators were women who often suffered heavy casualties when their command posts came under fire.[53] Though women were not usually trained as infantry, many Soviet women fought as machine gunners, mortar operators, and scouts.[54] Women were also snipers at Stalingrad.[55] Three air regiments at Stalingrad were entirely female.[54] At least three women won the title Hero of the Soviet Union while driving tanks at Stalingrad.[56]
Battle of Stalingrad.
As for Cuba. I would say incentives and the relative risk. It is much easier to reach Florida from Cuba than say from the Dominican Republic. And Cuban migrants are very coddled compared to other refugees.
What about the immigrants from countries such as Guatemala and El Salvador? Do they exist in large numbers? Do you have statistics for them as compared to Cuba?
 
What about Chile, Argentina, and Greece?

Bahrain turned their armed forces against their citizens. US ally Egypt with al-Sisi is pretty brutal.

Tell me how cruel was Jaruzelski versus Pinochet and Videla. How many people did Jaruzekski torture and murder?

Also:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

About the use of the military against protestors.

From wikipedia:

Battle of Stalingrad.

As for Cuba. I would say incentives and the relative risk. It is much easier to reach Florida from Cuba than say from the Dominican Republic. And Cuban migrants are very coddled compared to other refugees.

What about the immigrants from countries such as Guatemala and El Salvador? Do they exist in large numbers? Do you have statistics for them as compared to Cuba?
Would you answer the questions I posed?

Otherwise, I couldn’t grasp anything you were contending(?) aside from your comment on Cuban migrants which was…strange, especially the bit about being coddled because my reading of previous comments was that communism is wonderful and virtuous. Why would they have any incentive at all to leave a paradise like Cuba?

I suppose I could weigh-in on the wikepedia sourced information: one of my questions was whether the stated Nazi intent to annihilate the Slavic races might not have been a very significant motivation for the soviet troops to fight–a point that would contradict an apparent contention that they fought because they loved communism and Stalin.
 
Would you answer the questions I posed?

Otherwise, I couldn’t grasp anything you were contending(?) aside from your comment on Cuban migrants which was…strange, especially the bit about being coddled because my reading of previous comments was that communism is wonderful and virtuous. Why would they have any incentive at all to leave a paradise like Cuba?

I suppose I could weigh-in on the wikepedia sourced information: one of my questions was whether the stated Nazi intent to annihilate the Slavic races might not have been a very significant motivation for the soviet troops to fight–a point that would contradict an apparent contention that they fought because they loved communism and Stalin.
I don’t have time to deal with all of them.

Most people choose to fight, they was some coercion, of course, but they understood that they had to fight. Most people endorsed Order no 227 to stand fast.

You seem to imply that most people primarily fought because the NKVD or political commissars put a gun to their head. The evidence doesn’t support that. Now you are saying that the Red Army’s willingness to fight is not entirely due to their love of Stalin and socialism. That’s backtracking.

I gave specific examples of countries whose military oppresses its citizens while you claimed that capitalist countries do not do that. I answered it satisfactorily.

Cuban immigrants are coddled.

america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/8/cuban-refugees-centralamericanmigrantsimmigrationdeportation.html

politicalanalysis2011.blogspot.com/2011/02/preferential-treatment-of-cuban.html
 
I don’t have time to deal with all of them.

Most people choose to fight, they was some coercion, of course, but they understood that they had to fight. Most people endorsed Order no 227 to stand fast.
Ah…yeah…that’s why I said their motivation was that Hitler and Nazis wanted to exterminate the Slavs. Kind of a good reason to fight.
You seem to imply that most people primarily fought because the NKVD or political commissars put a gun to their head.The evidence doesn’t support that
That most assuredly did happen and it certainly happened to people who had family and friends murdered by Stalin.
. Now you are saying that the Red Army’s willingness to fight is not entirely due to their love of Stalin and socialism. That’s backtracking.
What? Backtracking? How is that backtracking to say that they fought for survival in the face of their own military commanders (who would kill them like they weren’t human) and Nazis (who would kill them like they weren’t human).
I gave specific examples of countries whose military oppresses its citizens while you claimed that capitalist countries do not do that. I answered it satisfactorily.
Those were dictatorial regimes. Not democratic capitalistic countries. Show me examples of Australia, America, Canada, et. al. conducting military operations against their respective citizens.
Cuban immigrants are coddled.
Coddled? They come here on rafts, sometimes pieces of driftwood. Tens of thousands have drowned. Further, again, you don’t seem to offer an answer as to why they would want to leave Cuba to begin with.

Nor do you provide answers for why, were it such a wonderful system, did communism fall in East Germany, Poland, Russia…why? I don’t understand why the people rose up against it.
 
World War II was fought over gaining land and resources. And the number of specific examples are a bit too numerous to mention, but, here’s a start. From November 30, 1939 to March 1940, the Russians tried to annex Finland. They obtained some territory in the end but suffered heavy losses. There was a reason for this.

“The Soviets possessed more than three times as many soldiers as the Finns, thirty times as many aircraft, and a hundred times as many tanks. The Red Army, however, had been crippled by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin’s Great Purge of 1937.[42] With more than 30,000 of its officers executed or imprisoned, including most of those of the highest ranks, the Red Army in 1939 had many inexperienced senior and mid-level officers.[43][44] Because of these factors, and high morale in the Finnish forces, Finland repelled Soviet attacks for several months, much longer than the Soviets expected.[45]”

One has to think of the common ideal of the average Allied soldier during World War II: “If your country calls, you go.” My father, who fought in the Polish Army, told me: “When they come, you have nothing to say. You go.” They being those sent to recruit young men for the armed forces.

In Russian history, there was no World War II. It is called “The Great Patriotic War.”

Polish General Anders wrote a book about the start of World War II. The war with Germany was fully expected and their intelligence was good. The Russians surprised them. He was captured, and after a difficult time at a former luxury hotel, renamed Lubyanka Prison, he was given a certain amount of freedom of movement. He contacted various Soviet officials to find out what had happened to tens of thousands of Polish troops. He was met with many “We don’t know.” Eventually, he found out: they had all been killed. POWs? What’s that?

The number of countries that joined the German Army and Waffen SS grew. Look up the “Great Purge” that occurred from 1936 to 1938. Stalin wanted to make sure that those who might cause internal upheaval should a war start were eliminated. “Hundreds of thousands of victims were accused of various political crimes (espionage, wrecking, sabotage, anti-Soviet agitation, conspiracies to prepare uprisings and coups); they were quickly executed by shooting, or sent to the Gulag labor camps. Many died at the penal labor camps of starvation, disease, exposure, and overwork. Other methods of dispatching victims were used on an experimental basis. One secret policeman, for example, gassed people to death in batches in the back of a specially adapted airtight van.[10][11].”

Yes, the Soviet Union, not Nazi Germany, was viewed as the biggest threat. One in four members of the German Armed Forces fighting on the Eastern Front were not native Germans.

Ed
 
. I most certainly do not believe that Joseph Stalin killed tens of millions of people, since there is no evidence for it (even if we believe he was personally responsible for every death in the Gulag and Yezhovshchina),.
Attribution of the crimes of the regime to Yezhov is misplaced. Before him were plenty of powerful murderers; Dzerzhinsky, Yagoda, Frenkel, Firin, Uspensky, Kogan, and others, and after Yezhov were Beria and Abakumov. And Stalin installed every one of them but Dzerzhinsky and executed all but Frenkel, Beria, Abakumov, and possibly Dzerzhinsky. Khruschev killed Abakumov and Beria. Frenkel, the butcher of Belomor, alone died a natural death.

The worst kind of people imaginable, and Stalin empowered every one of them.

To even imagine that Stalin was not responsible for the direction of those killers and the murders of millions is simply unrealistic.
 
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"The Soviets possessed more than three times as many soldiers as the Finns, thirty times as many aircraft, and a hundred times as many tanks.

Yes, the Soviet Union, not Nazi Germany, was viewed as the biggest threat. One in four members of the German Armed Forces fighting on the Eastern Front were not native Germans.

Ed
I apologize for truncating your post.

But it needs to be recognized that before the German invasion of the Soviet Union, the Soviets, not the Germans, had overall superiority in manpower, planes, tanks and rolling stock. The Germans invaded using horses for a great deal of their transport, and were dependent on horses throughout the war. The Germans were always outnumbered and under-armed.

And yet, hundreds of thousands of Soviet troops surrendered at a time. Thousands volunteered to serve in the German military, and some did. Whole units went over to them. At Normandy, the western Allies found Russians serving in the Wehrmacht. Ukrainians welcomed the Germans. When the Germans retreated from southern Russia, they were followed by a 50-mile-long train of Russian civilians who couldn’t bear the thought of being under Soviet rule again.

Not many countries have ever experienced things like that. Undoubtedly, many Russians realized at a point that the Nazis simply wanted their land and them as slaves, and fought for “Mother Russia” and their own lives. It wasn’t all because of the backup SMERSH troops ready to shoot “Ivan” if he retreated. But that undoubtedly helped.
 
I apologize for truncating your post.

But it needs to be recognized that before the German invasion of the Soviet Union, the Soviets, not the Germans, had overall superiority in manpower, planes, tanks and rolling stock. The Germans invaded using horses for a great deal of their transport, and were dependent on horses throughout the war. The Germans were always outnumbered and under-armed.

And yet, hundreds of thousands of Soviet troops surrendered at a time. Thousands volunteered to serve in the German military, and some did. Whole units went over to them. At Normandy, the western Allies found Russians serving in the Wehrmacht. Ukrainians welcomed the Germans. When the Germans retreated from southern Russia, they were followed by a 50-mile-long train of Russian civilians who couldn’t bear the thought of being under Soviet rule again.

Not many countries have ever experienced things like that. Undoubtedly, many Russians realized at a point that the Nazis simply wanted their land and them as slaves, and fought for “Mother Russia” and their own lives. It wasn’t all because of the backup SMERSH troops ready to shoot “Ivan” if he retreated. But that undoubtedly helped.
What a strange statement considering what I’ve written. The Communists did whatever they wanted to their own people. Stalin’s fear of “disloyalty” meant instant death or labor/death camps. I fail to see how anyone can fail to see that.

“After the Russian February Revolution of 1917, the Provisional Government dissolved the Tsar’s police and created the People’s Militsiya. The subsequent Russian October Revolution of 1917, was a seizure of state power led by Lenin and the Bolsheviks, who established a new Bolshevik regime, the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR), and the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) turned into NKVD (“People’s” Commissariat of Internal Affairs) under a “People’s” Commissar. However, the NKVD apparatus was overwhelmed by duties inherited from MVD, such as the supervision of the local governments and firefighting, and the Workers’ and Peasants’ Militsiya staffed by proletarians was largely inexperienced and unqualified. Realizing that it was left with no capable security force, the Council of People’s Commissars of the RSFSR created a secret political police, the Cheka, led by Felix Dzerzhinsky. It gained the right to undertake quick non-judicial trials and executions, if that was deemed necessary in order to “protect the Russian Socialist-Communist revolution”.”

“Mother Russia”? I know exactly what was going on in Communist Poland. Were the people slaves? No. When the Germans absorbed their portion of Poland into the Greater Reich, I know exactly what happened. Were the people slaves? No.

It was all about land and other resources - expansion. After Eastern Europe fell into Soviet hands at the end of World War II, what did General Patton say? “Let’s keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened and present a picture of force and strength to the Soviets. This is the only language they understand and respect. If you fail to do this, then I would say to you that we have lost the war.”

Ed
 
I suppose I could weigh-in on the wikepedia sourced information: one of my questions was whether the stated Nazi intent to annihilate the Slavic races might not have been a very significant motivation for the soviet troops to fight–a point that would contradict an apparent contention that they fought because they loved communism and Stalin.
Before the Nazis invaded Poland, did they investigate people in Germany to determine whether or not any of them had Polish grandparents?

What kind of iron curtain existed for how many thousands of years along the border between Germany and Poland that could have ensured that people in Germany were “pure Aryans” and that people in Poland were “pure Slavs”?

Hitler wasn’t stupid. We have to distinguish between what he said because he believed it, and what he said as a pretext. Some of his followers idolized him, and were afraid to doubt what they were told. Some motivations cannot be disclosed unless there is willingness to risk loss of status as an idol.

An absurd pretext has the advantage that people who openly question the pretext have the effect of distracting attention from the action that is justified via a mere pretext. As in Freudian-style explanations, a second distraction then arises when people who openly question the pretext are personally demonized and marginalized. The question of the motivation for the attack on a neighboring country is lost in the shuffle. Dehumanizing the people of the neighboring country is a way to avoid disclosing a justification for attacking the neighboring country, but it doesn’t explain the motivation.
 
Before the Nazis invaded Poland, did they investigate people in Germany to determine whether or not any of them had Polish grandparents?

What kind of iron curtain existed for how many thousands of years along the border between Germany and Poland that could have ensured that people in Germany were “pure Aryans” and that people in Poland were “pure Slavs”?

Hitler wasn’t stupid. We have to distinguish between what he said because he believed it, and what he said as a pretext. Some of his followers idolized him, and were afraid to doubt what they were told. Some motivations cannot be disclosed unless there is willingness to risk loss of status as an idol.

An absurd pretext has the advantage that people who openly question the pretext have the effect of distracting attention from the action that is justified via a mere pretext. As in Freudian-style explanations, a second distraction then arises when people who openly question the pretext are personally demonized and marginalized. The question of the motivation for the attack on a neighboring country is lost in the shuffle. Dehumanizing the people of the neighboring country is a way to avoid disclosing a justification for attacking the neighboring country, but it doesn’t explain the motivation.
In Hitler’s mind, yes. In terms of what motivated the German soldiers and what motivated those Russian who did fight (see Ridgerunner’s outstanding posts, above), I’m quite certain that the framing of the eastern front war as a battle for survival/annihilation was the motivating factor, particularly for the Soviet troops.
 
An interesting topic is the mechanism by which this ignorance has been propagated.

How is it that Christians, or GW Bush, or anyone else for that matter, are supposed to have murdered more people than communist regimes?

How does that lie become accepted?
Media is the answer. Newspeople, authors, the writers of false history, teachers.

There is no excuse for young people to be this ignorant on such a profound subject as the murder of tens of millions of human beings.
That is no accident.
 
An interesting topic is the mechanism by which this ignorance has been propagated.
How about the Armenian Genocide? Today it remains controversial in Turkey and other places.

Hitler recognized it:
Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?
Link:
armenian-genocide.org/hitler.html

In the same document, available at the same link, you can read Hitler echoing the character Raskolnikov in Dostoyevsky’s novel Crime and Punishment …
Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter – with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me.
One small detail: Raskolnikov referred to Napoleon Bonaparte, and Hitler has replaced Napoleon with Genghis Khan.
 
"According to a stunning new report by the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, one-third of Millennials (32%) “believe more people were killed under George W. Bush than under Joseph Stalin.” And it isn’t just those silly Millennials that we like to view as clueless. One in four Americans generally (26%) believe more people were killed under Bush than Stalin.

That is breathtaking. Truly incredible.

That rather sickening finding was just one by the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, which has the noble objective of trying to correct America’s ignoble ignorance of the crimes of communism."

I was astonished to read of the vast ignorance of Communism in the 20th century. Is it that history is not taught or that Communist history is whitewashed?

catholicworldreport.com/Blog/5273/our_profound_ignorance_of_the_crimes_of_communism.aspx
To believe that Bush killed more people than Stalin in another attempt by the Leftists to use Scandal, Calumny, and Detraction to destroy their opponant. It’s what Hillary Clinton was brought up under socialist Saul Alinsky tactics to motivate people and use the media and universities to do it. Its quite evil.
 
An interesting topic is the mechanism by which this ignorance has been propagated.

How is it that Christians, or GW Bush, or anyone else for that matter, are supposed to have murdered more people than communist regimes?

How does that lie become accepted?
Media is the answer. Newspeople, authors, the writers of false history, teachers.

There is no excuse for young people to be this ignorant on such a profound subject as the murder of tens of millions of human beings.
That is no accident.
No, it is no accident. The excuse? It doesn’t matter. Not really. Or the Russians were just defending their homeland. When Eastern Europe became part of the Soviet bloc after World War II, who cared? After the Soviets left the Ukraine, the Ukrainian people spoke up. They wanted Ukrainian, not Russian, to be taught in schools. They wanted their own currency. What’s going on in the Ukraine today? Not much. Just a few twisted facts, and a priest reporting thousands dead. The Russian Federation is at it again.

Ed
 
I am forced to work for another to survive, performing a narrow set of skills with what labour I perform entirely dictated to me.
Who supervises and dictates commands to kindergarten teachers or paramedics or pilots?

If you were in the process of being treated by a paramedic, would you want the paramedic to experiment on you by testing out a medical hypothesis invented by the paramedic?

Do you want a worker in a factory that manufactures parts for airplanes to improvise with creative new ideas that may cause an airplane that you are flying in to malfunction? During flight, there’s no opportunity to disassemble the airplane and test all of the parts. Parts have to function according to specifications.

Upon casual, visual inspection, two parts may appear identical to the worker, but the two parts may function differently. A production process can have unintended side-effects on what has been produced. You cannot afford to experiment with a production process unless you have access to the manufacturing equipment that won’t interfere with regularly scheduled production, and access to materials that can be dedicated to making new prototypes.
 
Who supervises and dictates commands to kindergarten teachers or paramedics or pilots?

If you were in the process of being treated by a paramedic, would you want the paramedic to experiment on you by testing out a medical hypothesis invented by the paramedic?

Do you want a worker in a factory that manufactures parts for airplanes to improvise with creative new ideas that may cause an airplane that you are flying in to malfunction? During flight, there’s no opportunity to disassemble the airplane and test all of the parts. Parts have to function according to specifications.

Upon casual, visual inspection, two parts may appear identical to the worker, but the two parts may function differently. A production process can have unintended side-effects on what has been produced. You cannot afford to experiment with a production process unless you have access to the manufacturing equipment that won’t interfere with regularly scheduled production, and access to materials that can be dedicated to making new prototypes.
You misunderstood my point a bit. Of course they shouldn’t experiment with untested things, but the guy who works in the factory for airplane parts might not always want to work on the same part of the assembly line producing the same part. He might want to shift around a bit. He may not always want to produce airplane parts either. Sometimes he might want to work in a different factory, or be a baker, or a cleaner. Performing the same activity everyday is demoralizing and boring, and doesn’t allow you to develop multiple skills.

“Further, the division of labour implies the contradiction between the interest of the separate individual or the individual family and the communal interest of all individuals who have intercourse with one another. And indeed, this communal interest does not exist merely in the imagination, as the “general interest,” but first of all in reality, as the mutual interdependence of the individuals among whom the labour is divided. And finally, the division of labour offers us the first example of how, as long as man remains in natural society, that is, as long as a cleavage exists between the particular and the common interest, as long, therefore, as activity is not voluntarily, but naturally, divided, man’s own deed becomes an alien power opposed to him, which enslaves him instead of being controlled by him. For as soon as the distribution of labour comes into being, each man has a particular, exclusive sphere of activity, which is forced upon him and from which he cannot escape. He is a hunter, a fisherman, a herdsman, or a critical critic, and must remain so if he does not want to lose his means of livelihood; while in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic. This fixation of social activity, this consolidation of what we ourselves produce into an objective power above us, growing out of our control, thwarting our expectations, bringing to naught our calculations, is one of the chief factors in historical development up till now.”

And, of course, having things dictated to you doesn’t just imply the methods you use. The hierarchical setting of work isn’t enjoyable - my work hours, my breaks, and other things are dictated to me. I have very little freedom in the workplace. It would be better if I could decide those things myself, if nothing in my labour was dictated to me. I choose whether I want to work there today, I choose for how long, and I choose what labour I perform.
 
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Under communism, humans have total control over their labour, and so are truly free, whereas under capitalism I am forced to work for another to survive, performing a narrow set of skills with what labour I perform entirely dictated to me.
This is factually and historically false. It is in a socialist state - be it communist, or fascist - where your labors are required. You can claim some communist ideal, but the facts of history prove that ideal imaginary. The reality of the communist ideal is totalitarianism and brutality. It is a reality of multiple tens of millions of citizens, not soldiers, killed by government. It is the reality of socialism, be it communist or fascist, poverty, death camps, denial of individual rights.

You are not forced to work in a capitalist state. In a capitalist state, IOW a free society, you can choose where to work, or for whom. You can even choose to work only for yourself, because you can control the means of production, once you legally acquire them. You can seek out new skills, and change your employment, without government approval.
What you can’t do, or at least shouldn’t be able to do, is not work and therefore live off the labors of others. Doing so imposes a form of slavery on producers.
 
This is factually and historically false. It is in a socialist state - be it communist, or fascist - where your labors are required. You can claim some communist ideal, but the facts of history prove that ideal imaginary. The reality of the communist ideal is totalitarianism and brutality. It is a reality of multiple tens of millions of citizens, not soldiers, killed by government. It is the reality of socialism, be it communist or fascist, poverty, death camps, denial of individual rights.

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No one has any evidence of the tens of millions of people. They simply don’t exist.Look if the Soviet Union really did kill tens of millions, then few people who fight for the Red Army or that it would have lost its manpower. Killing people causes resentment throughout the generations, so why most Russia have some positive opinions of the Soviet Union?

You should also acknowledge the tens of millions of people who died in India under British rule.
 
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