Outrage after video captures white Baton Rouge police officer fatally shooting a black man

[St_Francis]

So we’re clear. Everyone in this thread knows now that we’re all (myself included) just trafficking in ideological and political debate right?

None of you actually believe your answers to be “Catholic answers” right?

I mean we can all make the argument that our positions are born out of our faith – fine – but no one really thinks your positions are the Catholic ones, right?

Because a lot of folks that started off trying to cloak their posts in religious devotion are not just essentially revealing themselves to just be normal, standard republicans.

Dr John Rao discusses why the inter-war Jesuits of the Civita Catolica (an earlier member of whom influenced Pope Leo 13 and coined the term “social justice”) pointed out that there are many political issues about which there are no Catholic answers. In fact, the Church tends to teach in broad outlines, not specific detail. The Church will teach that the police should not torture arrestees, but not which model pistol police should carry. There is room for a wide variety of responses, each of which is in line with Catholic teaching.

 

[Padres1969]

And so it continues. Unarmed black man, who is a caregiver for an autistic man who was with him, lying on the ground with arms raised is shot.

gawker.com/video-shows-unarmed-black-man-pleading-with-arms-raised-1784004594?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

 

[estesbob]

And so it continues. Unarmed black man, who is a caregiver for an autistic man who was with him, lying on the ground with arms raised is shot.

gawker.com/video-shows-unarmed-black-man-pleading-with-arms-raised-1784004594?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

And so it continues:

nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-city-police-officer-killed-after-drive-shooting-n612716

 

[pnewton]

Dr John Rao discusses why…

Would that be John Rao, the Remnant writer? If so, would this be ad hominem, or simply pointing out false authority?

 

[Padres1969]

And so it continues:

nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-city-police-officer-killed-after-drive-shooting-n612716

One does not justify the other.

 

[Regular_Atheist]

Very late reply, but you misunderstood my point badly and I want to respond.

“Inherent to one’s identity”? That is a unique criteria, and one I have never heard before, to justify prejudice. I simply do not agree and reject that one person can define what is legitimate prejudice and what is not, based on what they want to stereotype.

People choose to join the police force. They do not choose to be black.

The police also do nothing to help maintain the highway system.

In this analogy, the police are actively preventing the highway from being maintained. When disenfranchised people lash out, the police are always there to keep them down. Crime is rampant among black communities as a result of poverty. The solution? Send in the police to knock them about. Over policing of impoverished communities is a big issue. It’s easier than tackling the root causes of crime.

Again, you are mistaken, or do not understand, the role of police. They send no one to prison. That would be the judges, juries and the legislatures of this land. More to the point, or broken system is a result of the will of the people who still see incarceration as a panacea to all the ills of society. Until we decide, as a people, that enough is enough with the mass imprisonment, nothing will change.

The police are an important part of the legal system. They are the muscle that gives it legitimacy, and as such they are just as involved in sending people to prison as the courts. How could a modern legal system possibly function without the police? It couldn’t. You cannot criticize a broken legal system without also criticizing the role the police have in it. While the police are not the only thing wrong with our legal system, they help to maintain everything that is wrong with it.

Then you should not complain, unless of course you are an anarchist that believes in having no police.

I am not an anarchist, but I would like to get rid of the police force. At the very least they can never serve a positive role under capitalism, since they exist partly to uphold the system which oppresses so many people.

 

[pnewton]

I am not an anarchist, but I would like to get rid of the police force. At the very least they can never serve a positive role under capitalism, since they exist partly to uphold the system which oppresses so many people.

Without a police force, there is not deterrent for racist groups like the Klan from operating in full force. Hate crimes become nonpunishable. Black lives would not be saved, but lost.