Padre Pio and Incorruptability

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Is there anyone out there claiming that Padre Pio is incorrupt? I saw some pictures that made his face look incorrupt but later learned that the archbishop and the group in charge had a facial mask made by a wax museum.

I am a little confused about the extent of his preservation.

Primarily, I do not want rumors of incorruptablity starting if it is not true.

Is there a crystal clear document or web site that explains all the details?
 
I’m not up on Padre Pio, but my understanding is that “incorruptibility” means that the flesh doesn’t decay. It does not mean, however, that the flesh does not subside (sink), turn color, or things like that.

St. Bernadette is also incorrupt, but they’ve made a wax mask for her face and hands, because the flesh was turning dark. However, it was not decaying.

DaveBj
 
The picture in the newspaper was convincing that his body is incorrupt.
 
*Padre Pio’s body was exhumed in a service that began late at night March 2 to verify the state of the body and to allow technicians to ensure its long-term preservation.

The friars had said the body was in “fair condition,” although the skull and parts of the upper body showed serious signs of decay.

The archbishop and the Capuchins hired Gems Studio, the London-based firm that makes figures for Madame Tussaud’s Wax Museum, to create a silicone mask – including a short moustache and ample beard – for the body.*

catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=27722

So does this mean the body was decaying and the wax mask is there to cover it up?
 
DaveBj said:
I’m not up on Padre Pio, but my understanding is that “incorruptibility” means that the flesh doesn’t decay. It does not mean, however, that the flesh does not subside (sink), turn color, or things like that.

St. Bernadette is also incorrupt, but they’ve made a wax mask for her face and hands, because the flesh was turning dark. However, it was not decaying.

DaveBj
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The only reason why her flesh became dark is because they washed her body when they brought up the body from her tomb. Thus, the chemicals caused a change in her flesh. Otherwise, she was absolutely perfect.
 
Sounds like normal decay to me and some of the incorruptibles don’t look so great. What is the point of displaying all these bodies anyway? It’s kind of… well… extremely odd.

You can visit a tomb all the same.

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Why God allows the incorruptibility of some of his servants is within the mystery of God. It is such a beautiful part of our rich spriituality and heritage, that it blows me away that these bodies who were not ‘prepared’ the way we do now and they remain so beautiful is beyond one’s comprehension. I thank God for this gift as it enhances my faith that God can do anything He decides to do that goes against any scientific study.

St Bernadette…can anyone eslain this one? She died in the 1870’s from tuberculosis of the bone…

catholicpilgrims.com/lourdes/images/bernprof.jpg
 
Yes, but the better looking ones have some wax reconstruction involved. I’m talking about St. Zita or St. Catherine of Bologna for instance, there is clearly some discolorization and decay going on.

If they can see St. Padre Pio’s skull then that is clearly decay as well.

I dunno, to each his own, I just don’t get the whole bodies on display deal and find the incorruptibles a bit exaggerated…and creepy.

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No…No…CBS: be careful of what you say and I have needed to watch the way I state things too.

Afterall, we are in a different age and we often readily see these Saints Sacred Remains on the Internet and in the past books.

But if one made a pilgrimage to any of these localities, far away overseas, I think it would be a much different situation and I would treat the subject with the utmost reverence.

That St. Vincent de Paul; an amazing Saint, I’m a big fan of His.

He’s amazing and of course, Fellow Incorrupt Saint, Catherine Laboure received the Miraculous Medal. She was part of an order St. Vincent de Paul started.

You have partial incorruptness, again, this is from maybe 700 years ago, around that, St. Anthony is known for having his tongue stay incorrupt!

Blessed Jacinta Marto, may have a somewhat partial incorruptability, but it is something to read up on and I believe she is overwhelmingly incorrupt as well.
 
SongofShepherds said:
No…No…CBS: be careful of what you say and I have needed to watch the way I state things too.

Afterall, we are in a different age and we often readily see these Saints Sacred Remains on the Internet and in the past books.

But if one made a pilgrimage to any of these localities, far away overseas, I think it would be a much different situation and I would treat the subject with the utmost reverence.

That St. Vincent de Paul; an amazing Saint, I’m a big fan of His.

He’s amazing and of course, Fellow Incorrupt Saint, Catherine Laboure received the Miraculous Medal. She was part of an order St. Vincent de Paul started.

You have partial incorruptness, again, this is from maybe 700 years ago, around that, St. Anthony is known for having his tongue stay incorrupt!

Blessed Jacinta Marto, may have a somewhat partial incorruptability, but it is something to read up on and I believe she is overwhelmingly incorrupt as well.
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I’m not trying to offend anyone and I’m sorry if I have. I’m just trying to understand it.

Any good books on the subject?
 
Shoshana said:
Why God allows the incorruptibility of some of his servants is within the mystery of God. It is such a beautiful part of our rich spriituality and heritage, that it blows me away that these bodies who were not ‘prepared’ the way we do now and they remain so beautiful is beyond one’s comprehension. I thank God for this gift as it enhances my faith that God can do anything He decides to do that goes against any scientific study.

St Bernadette…can anyone eslain this one? She died in the 1870’s from tuberculosis of the bone…

catholicpilgrims.com/lourdes/images/bernprof.jpg
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Thankyou very much for the beautiful picture, and also for the one of St Vincent de paul … now their in my collection 👍

God Bless
 
Just want to chime in re:St. Bernadette. I have studied this phenomenon and she remains the most remarkable.As was stated earlier, the only reason that She has a thin wax mask, is that the good sisters wished to honor Her.

Anyway, just my opinion. Regarding Saint Pio, the state of His body means little.

John
 
Did anyone see the video on H2O news? I’d swear I saw Padre Pio blink. I ran it 3 times, looking for flashes from cameras (there were a few), or other causes, but it looks for all the world like his eyelids open slightly.

Public veneration of Padre Pio’s body
 
CBS said:
I’m not trying to offend anyone and I’m sorry if I have. I’m just trying to understand it.

Any good books on the subject?
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One of the reasons these bodies are not decayed…is because it is sin that decays and destroys our body…those who are “incorruptible” have been spared of the evil of death and decay, because of the devout and Holy lives they led.

That is why they are on display…to demonstrate the Holiness that can be achieved by all.

Of course, not all Saints are preserved…because not all were sin free…my favorite saying is:

“Every saint was a sinner and every sinner can be a saint”

Anything is possible with Christ’s mercy, love and grace!
 
Larry1700 said:
Did anyone see the video on H2O news? I’d swear I saw Padre Pio blink. I ran it 3 times, looking for flashes from cameras (there were a few), or other causes, but it looks for all the world like his eyelids open slightly.

Public veneration of Padre Pio’s body
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WOW…I just viewed it and I too saw it…looks like it was a reaction to the flashing cameras or something…very interesting.

I actually had a family emergency come up this past Monday night and Padre Pio was the first person I thought of asking intercession from…and well…I have to say, there is really no way to explain the “little” miracle we were blessed with Tuesday…needless to say, I have been offering my thanks ever since!
 
neat62 said:
One of the reasons these bodies are not decayed…is because it is sin that decays and destroys our body…those who are “incorruptible” have been spared of the evil of death and decay, because of the devout and Holy lives they led.

That is why they are on display…to demonstrate the Holiness that can be achieved by all.

Of course, not all Saints are preserved…because not all were sin free…my favorite saying is:

“Every saint was a sinner and every sinner can be a saint”

Anything is possible with Christ’s mercy, love and grace!
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🙂 This is not the mind of the Catholic Church. It is a mystery that some saints become incorruptible and some not. ALL saints sin until their death. ‘A just man sins seven times a day’. The saints would be the first to admit it. The only people who did not sin until death is Jesus Himself and His mother. Otherwise we are not sin free until we die.
 
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