Pain from Abstinence?

[Think_About_It]

Then let’s see what you are recommending the OP to do: engage in mortal sin. This is advice that can not be taken seriously. You are vehemently anti-Catholic, explaining your attempts to drawn the OP from the faith and into sin.

No, I’m suggesting that such things as are dubbed sinful are really as natural as eating and sleeping. I want people to question why God would say that something very natural is a sin (unless of course, it was the edict of superstitious, dessert-dwelling, men, and not necessarily from on high). It’s like the way Jesus implies mental illnesses are caused by demons; of course, now we know there are no such things as demons and never were, and further, that mental problems are caused by structural complications in the brain, synaptic tangling, and inbalances in certain neurotransmitters. Likewise, we ought to know that what is borne into the human race is not sinful, just because it is alleged that it was alleged that it was alleged that an alleged divinity said so. You can accept the challenge and work it out, or you can dismiss it out of preference.

Oddly, your position is a lot closer to the truth than many find comfortable!

Life with “blue balls” is not the answer.

But please allow me to rephrase part of the above: “If you need to marry, do so.”

God has already given solid evidence through the Holy Scriptures. It is better to marry than to burn (with lust). What more evidence do we need?

Evidence of what? How is it evidence?

Life with blue balls, an excessive number of years with blue balls. I’m not going to make the distinction; why should there be any suffering - It’s not very merciful. If there are truths about the world and how we ought to act, they should be easily attained through natural reason. It’s intuitive, you’ll agree, that if there is a need, a physical need to masturbate in order to extinguish discomfort, that the reasonable thing is to do so. Why would a God confound our reason by telling us it’s wrong? It makes very little sense.

 

[FiberZilla]

It’s intuitive, you’ll agree, that if there is a need, a physical need to masturbate in order to extinguish discomfort, that the reasonable thing is to do so. Why would a God confound our reason by telling us it’s wrong? It makes very little sense.

I can agree with you to a point. However, there is a fine line between relieving pain and simply endulging yourself just for kicks. Sexual sin can be as innocuous as the 15 year old boy doing what 15 year old boys do when their bodies raging with hormones and their minds are full of bikini models… or as life damaging as the 35 year-old sex addicted husband and father paying prostitutes down at the strip club on a weekly basis while his wife has no clue.

The area of sexual sin, there exists a very slippery slope. Man has proven that he is not capable of drawing that line.God confounds our reason in order to protect us from destroying ourselves.

 

[OraLabora]

The area of sexual sin, there exists a very slippery slope. Man has proven that he is not capable of drawing that line.

One could say the same thing about alcohol though.

Not every person who drinks alcohol becomes an alcoholic. And not every man who masturbates becomes a deviant sex addict. Most men I know in my age group would much rather make love to their wives than masturbate, but often, also in this age group, we’re living with women entering menopause and while the effect of that varies, in many cases women lose a lot of their desire while the husband’s desire remains strong.

The issue with the morality of masturbation is the Natural Law (which you could also say is the Divine Law or a part of it) and the way we were intended to “function” as it were, and not so much, I think, God trying to “protect” us from ourselves. However since the fall in the Garden of Eden none of us, not one, can ever fully conform to the Divine Law. It’s why we need to rely on Christ’s redemption and mercy.

 

[adstrinity]

God has already given solid evidence through the Holy Scriptures. It is better to marry than to burn (with lust).

St. Paul did state that…at a time when it was easier to just get married. Seeing as how we now (in the developed world) marry for love and not just procreation as set up contractually by our parents, it’s not as simple as some would make it. Therefore, since one can’t just marry the first girl he sees just so he can have sex, but instead would have to date and date and date (possibly) to find the right girl, one that he can be with forever, it seems to me that it would be better to go to his doctor, as others have suggested.

Besides, others have mentioned (not in this thread), but, others have mentioned to have burned with lust and through prayer and celebacy, have managed to snuff out the fire.

 

[OAO]

So I’m single, and haven’t masturbated in a couple of months. However, I notice that if I have not ejaculated for two weeks or more [other ejaculations are nocturnal emissions] I develop an occasional pain/ache in the pelvic region. This is nothing debilitating, but it is uncomfortable, and I notice that it only occurs when I’ve gone a while without ejaculating, and is relieved once I’ve had a nocturnal emission. Has anyone else experienced this? It doesn’t feel particularly healthy.

First, you probably should talk to a doctor.

Second, the same thing happens to me. I’ve spoken to two doctors about this and was given a urine test and checked for testicular cancer. I am a perfectly healthy man. Here’s what the Docs told me:

(a) Male sexual drive shows a great deal of variation. These symptoms are not uncommon, but not universal, either. Some men never masturbate and have no pain, but others suffer greatly.
(b) Do not expect this to go away with time. So long as you abstain, you may well experience this, at least until you get older and your testosterone levels decrease.

Other common symptoms are leakage of pre-ejaculatory fluid or semen during the day, typically around bowel movements; increase in spontaneous erections/arousal, which can generate an aching pain (“blue balls”); semen changing to a yellowish or reddish color, due to blood entering the fluid. In additional to this, you can count on psychological effects - greater sexual desire, anxiety, and trouble sleeping.

There are no long-term health complications abstinence, but in my opinion these short-term problems are enough to legitimate masturbation, at least for those with no sexual partner. If you are worried about dissenting from the official Church teaching, I recommend you read Cardinal Dulles’ “Authority & Conscience” vatican2voice.org/8conscience/dulles.htm

Hope I’ve been a help.

 

[OAO]

One more thing - there is some evidence that regular ejaculation lowers risk of prostate cancer. Moreover, prolonged abstinence can contribute to prostatitis, the so-called “Priest’s Disease”.