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I am all for clarity. I see you stating a run on sentence that for me needs clarification. You say that something here is good to know. If something is good to know then I want to know what it is. God alone is good and if something is good to know then it must pertain to something that would be true, close to true or leading me to an understanding of God.
It is interesting that you equate criticism of the state of Israel with enmity toward Jews or Judaism.
You know maybe you are on to something. Why not give back the land to the American Indan. The reservations are no substitute for a land of my own. The Incas, Aztecs, Toltecs, Mayans all have survivors that would relish the notion of restoration of land that was lost. Let us not forget Northern Ireland. What about the Kurds? Why stop with the Middle East and all lands properly lost. Babylon, Assyria and Samria can be restored…good thought.
I demand that the Palestinians return their land to the Greeks, that the Greeks return that land to the Israelis, and that the Israelis return that land to the Canaanites. Also that the Turks leave modern Turkey and return it to the Greeks.
I am of the opinion that occupied Assyria should be returned to the natives. Kurdish dominance of North Iraq, for instance, is a result of genocide and complicity with the planners of genocide, the Muslim Arabs and Turks. So the Kurds of Asia minor, for instance, may go to Central Asia together with their masters who originated there, the Turks. They are not good stewards of the land, and their cries for freedom for themselves ring incredibly hollow in light of Simele and the Assyrian Genocide, both of which they readily participated in, and which no good people of conscience should ever forget.
I like to share this wonderful insight coming from an Orthodox Priest, Archimandrite Rev. Fr. Eusebius A. Stephanou, Th. D.
Yes I understand, but have you also consider why those Christian Zionist are acting with doubt against the arab Christians in the Holy Land?
I understand that the Patriarch has responsibility towards the flock of Christ in the Holy Land, spiritually and politically. But is this the kind of leadership that the Palestinian Christians need? Is he setting the example of Christ for the Palestinian Christians to imitate and follow?
I really like what Rev. Innokenty Pavlov, professor of theology at Moscow’s Biblical Theological Institute regarding Israel and antisemetism.
I don’t get it, how can the Jews who practiced Jewish customs and traditions for centuries NOT be the historic people of Israel and to say the least revive a dead language that is Hebrew? What about the Continuous Jewish Presence in the Holy Land? Did we forgot the scattering and gathering part of the bible?
Naim Ateek became the unofficial founder of the movement called Christian Palestianism when he established Sabeel. And yes he wrote it in his book **Justice, and Only Justice: A Palestinian Theology of Liberation **as a suggestion. But his followers took it a little further. Philip Saad, a Palestinian Christian who lives in Haifa, Israel said that:
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You seem to have an Israeli agenda of your own
And the USA return Hawaii to the native Hawaiians!
Firstly, Orthodox and Greek are not the same. I am not Greek, but I am, by the grace of God, Orthodox. Secondly, his criticism of modern Greeks in no way undermines the self-understanding that Orthodoxy is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Now what does that have to do with the content of my response to your original post? You still have not offered any response to the fact that the much-maligned “replacement theory” is patristic, while modern protestant interpretations of who “Israel” refers to are not. What allows you, as a Catholic, to reject the patristic tradition in favor of modern Protestant theories?
The most important point is that you have here what are called “Torah” Jews. There are “Talmud” Jews. Judaism of Ezrah/Nehemiah no longer exists as there is no temple, no Levitical priesthood and no animal sacrifices. We have descendants of what was. They are people. God is God of all, God is God of Jew, Gentile, Barbarian, Greek, Gentile, Pagan, Barbarian…and Israel is people not land…
Thank you for conveniently sidestepping the issue. It is preposterous to imply that objecting to the policies pursued by the state of Israel is comparable, in any way, shape, or form, to wishing for the destruction of all Jews on earth. This clever trick to distract from the question at hand–one which does not reflect well on the country which too many people support unquestioningly–is absolutely outrageous. I harbour no feelings of anti-Semitism whatsoever, and even insinuating the contrary is a completely unwarranted assault on my character.
Indeed, this post of mine was taken from Neturei Karta, an international organization of Orthodox Jews dedicated to the propagation and clarification of Torah Judaism.
Nuclear war so “God’s Will, would be done, and Jesus Return, to start the literal 1000 year reign.” After that we could all enter some sort of Neo-Platonic, non physical, spiritual heaven.