Did this term “replacement theology” arise out of some sort of Christian thinking? That’s always bothered me. We are not “replacing” the Jews as though we are now under their covenant. Rather, they themselves have ceased to follow God, yet still cling to their ethnoreligious sense of superiority as though being favored means that they may hamstring the Almighty (despite evidence to the contrary, such as when God warned that they would not see the land which He had previously promised to them if they did not stop complaining against Him in the course of the exodus from Egypt). So I find that offensive on the part of the Jews on many levels. We don’t call modern Jewish theology “rejection theology”, do we? Even though they rejected God and His Christ. That is the reality, and now as a result of their scheming with the Western powers the Palestinian Christians and indeed the whole region and world suffers.
“…the Jews…cling to their ethnoreligious sense of superiority”
Is this what you think of your Israeli friends? If you have told them that, and how did they reply?
“and now as a result of their scheming”
Someone asked earlier “Who is they?” (I thought “they” are muslims.) That question should also apply here (for clarity): who are “they” and “the Jews”. Did you mean to say Israelis?
Yes, the European holocaust was awful, but we were not given our own homeland after the massacres of the early 20th century…
Well, maybe the people you speak of should have got one. Maybe they tried and lost. Maybe they were victorious and do have do have one. Maybe they are presently involved in disputes in getting one. The people and regions you mention are not unfamiliar with nationalistic and religious strife. That, and the fact that many/most conflicts in the world are extremely complex, is about all I know.
But the Jews had political plans dating back to the 1800s when they started immigrating into Palestine in large numbers in order to prepare for their eventual state
I guess I don’t see anything wrong with that. Many jews, or jews in general, have as much right to that land as the Arabs. Seems like the first time they tried to carve out their little area – like so many other people have – the Arabs attacked them. And it’s been going on ever since.
The Jewish nationalists won. Israeli exists. Right or wrong, its there.
In addition, Hamas and Hezbollah and others in Arab leadership in the entire region have never struck me as anything any better than the Israeli government, in general.
I’m definitely torn by this issue, and am willing to listen to all POV.
and we’ll go down apologizing and justifying their stupidity because we’re dumb, gullible, and too politically correct to tell some Jews and Muslims (oops) to shove it sideways like we should already be doing.
I agree.
I demand that the Palestinians return their land to the Greeks, that the Greeks return that land to the Israelis, and that the Israelis return that land to the Canaanites. Also that the Turks leave modern Turkey and return it to the Greeks.
You know maybe you are on to something. Why not give back the land to the American Indan. The reservations are no substitute for a land of my own. The Incas, Aztecs, Toltecs, Mayans all have survivors that would relish the notion of restoration of land that was lost. Let us not forget Northern Ireland. What about the Kurds? Why stop with the Middle East and all lands properly lost. Babylon, Assyria and Samria can be restored…good thought.
Well, now were touching on how the world has gone around since the beginning of man. I’m not giving my land to Native Americans. That issue has long passed. They can try if they want, but I think they’ll lose. But NAs aren’t waging a war; they’ve essentially agreed to work together with the rest of us. I am so glad they did.
Plus, I’m doubtful a NA could prove I’m personally on someone else’s land. Besides, maybe that NA confiscated it from another native. Where does it end?
Point is, history is repleat societies and nations exploring, and expanding and conquering. That’s just the way it worked; sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Of course, it is a lot less acceptable today. At some point people have to say, 'I’m not going to attack my neighbor and countryman because his great-great-grandaddy killed my great-great-grandaddy."
Should I have to? They’re helping to ruin the lives of the Palestinian Christians. I have no sympathy for the agendas they employ in doing so. Let them go home to England and America; they can just as easily wait for the Messiah there and leave the Palestinians alone.
From a practical standpoint, isn’t it too late for that?
I do not see any problem with the Patriarch’s letter to Arafat. In fact, the dearly departed Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church, HH Pope Shenouda (may the Lord give him rest and receive his soul among the righteous) has said as much
concerning the truth of the scriptures, which I recognize as being the absolute truth in this matter, as in all matters. If you or the Israelis or anyone else don’t like it, too bad. You’re wrong.
If Copts travel to Jerusalem “who knows what ideas they will return with.”
Come on. I can’t take that vid seriously, all due respect.
And I have no problem with the Vatican apologizing to Jews; proud of it, in fact, for reasons that would require another entire thread.
You make reasonable points, but these weren’t among them.
