Papal candidates - Short List?

[LisaA]

He was on my short list…actually the only one on my short list. I was rather amazed that he got it.

Mine too! I was a brand new Catholic but had read some of then Cardinal Ratzinger’s books and had heard a lengthy interview with him before he was elected Pope. I just loved his brilliant mind, his understanding of the power of tyranny and the scourge of relativism. I was so elated when he appered in the balcony window…can still see it in my mind’s eye and smile even though it has been years.

I hope and believe the next Pope will also be the right man for a time such as this!
Lisa

 

[BroomWagon]

Because the Roman Catholic Church adamantly defends life in the womb, the oldest and most infirm and the institution of marriage, it has legions of foes spread throughout major media. Those critics will surface repeatedly between now and the selection of the new pope to use the occasion to sling their stones. It is a fun time, really, since they know almost nothing of which they speak, and their agenda journalism is of so little consequence unlike the MSM’s recent interventions in the presidential election.

…

But do beware of lefty, ill-informed, or simply outright anti-Catholic “journalists” dressing up their agendas as “reporting,” and attach zero importance to location of the byline being Rome.

townhall.com/columnists/hughhewitt/2013/02/12/watch-for-the-anticatholics-to-weigh-in-on-the-papal-succession-n1510742

ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/qa-benedicts-bombshell

 

[Mrs_Sally]

In secular matters, the USA leads. Earthly matters are not divorced from the heavenly. I will repeat, and I prophesy this:

No need for the giant font my dear. I choose not to take any heed of your “prophesy”.

 

[_Abyssinia]

The Next Conclave

 

[StMartinTours]

What about Christoph Schoenborn? Isn’t he in the running?

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

What if the conclave picks BXVI again?

 

[JMJSHJ]

What about Christoph Schoenborn? Isn’t he in the running?

Didn’t he also endorse, even if for a period of time, Medjugorje?

 

[Elizabeth502]

No need for the giant font my dear. I choose not to take any heed of your “prophesy”.

And I choose to ignore and repudiate your mischaracterization of my remarks, coupled with your refusal to acknowledge that you indeed did misquote me.

Lots of people, Catholic and non-, believe that U.S. Catholicism is irrelevant to the growth, expansion, and internal health of the Roman Catholic Church. They could not be more incorrect in their analysis, as history proves them to be in error.

Church officials themselves, both here and overseas, have acknowledged repeatedly the dire need for Evangelization within the American Church, and the emergency state of catechesis within the West in general (including Canada and much of Europe), as well as the clear interrelationship between catechesis and genuine evangelization. Anyone here can choose to ignore those remarks by the hierarchy, but those remarks stand with their own integrity and their own Truth, verified by facts.

 

[GangGreen]

oddschecker.com/politics-and-election/next-pope/winner

Odds for next Pope

 

[Dale_M]

John Allen wrote a good article back in 2005 that talked about the politics involved in the conclave.

Papal negative campaigning and the role of the Holy Spirit

That you for posting that link. Allen, as is often the case, provides valuable insight.

The article also has a take-home message at the end: Quoting Cardinal Ratzinger, who was asked on Bavarian television in 1997 if the Holy Spirit is responsible for who gets elected pope:

“I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the pope. … I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit’s role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined.”

Then the clincher: “There are too many contrary instances of popes the Holy Spirit would obviously not have picked.”

 

[_Abyssinia]

How right where the betting odds in 2005 for who the Pope would be?

 

[_Abyssinia]

AP Interview: African papal contender wants change

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

AP Interview: African papal contender wants change

A tad unseemly to be giving interviews, IMO.

 

[Geist]

I predict he will be whoever he is and come from we wherever he comes from.

Prove me wrong!

 

[Digitonomy]

How right where the betting odds in 2005 for who the Pope would be?

If I recall, Ratzinger was considered the frontrunner by almost everyone. In a multi-horse race, that doesn’t mean most people thought he would be elected. I think most believed otherwise - they just didn’t have any single candidate they thought had a better chance.

 

[LisaA]

If I recall, Ratzinger was considered the frontrunner by almost everyone. In a multi-horse race, that doesn’t mean most people thought he would be elected. I think most believed otherwise - they just didn’t have any single candidate they thought had a better chance.

I heard in an interview that since Cardinal Ratzinger had been Blessed JPII’s right hand man and had been in Rome for decades, all of the Cardinals KNEW him and that personal knowledge was an important factor in how he emerged as Pope. He clearly did not seek the office and there were comments about his advanced age. But also noted was given the long pontificate of BJPII along with his slow decline, an older Pope who wouldn’t have a grand plan but be more of a stabliizing force after the upheaval of the abuse scandal seemed like the right man for that time.

Of couse we are all speculating but it does help get to know the contenders! Before yesterday I hadn’t heard of any of them other than someone like Timothy Cardinal Dolan who is a real long shot.

BTW I remember the days when Cardinal Pell was considered a future contender. What happened or is he too old? I noticed he was far down in the rankings.

Lisa

 

[ProVobis]

In addition to the candidate’s odds, intrade also lists the following trades:

as of 7:24 CST

The successor to Pope Benedict XVI to be from Italy 29.0%

• from US or Canada 10.0%
• from S or Central America 12.0%
• from Spain 10.0%
• from any African country 28%
• from France (no takers yet)
• from Germany (no takers yet)
• from UK or Ireland (no takers yet)
• from any other country - 3%

intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=92187

 

[Digitonomy]

BTW I remember the days when Cardinal Pell was considered a future contender. What happened or is he too old? I noticed he was far down in the rankings.Lisa

Age-wise, I think he’s still in it. According to Catholic-Heirarchy.org’s list of cardinal electors, he is 71.

Here is John Allen’s profile of him from 2005, in the book Conclave: The Politics, Personalities, and Process of the Next Papal Election:

Pell, George (Australia, 62): Probably the strongest doctrinal conservative in the 2003 batch of cardinals, Pell marks a change from the center-left tradition within the Australian bishops. He has issued tough challenges to what he calls the secular “neopagan” culture of the developed West, especially on issues such as abortion and homosexuality. He has drawn criticism for his handling of sex abuse allegations against priests in the Melbourne archdiocese, which he headed before the move to Sydney. On a personal basis, Pell is regarded as affable, unpretentious, and candid. He heads the Vox Clara Commission for the Congregation for Divine Worship, helping the Vatican steer a more conservative, Roman course in liturgical affairs in the English-speaking world.

 

[LisaA]

Age-wise, I think he’s still in it. According to Catholic-Heirarchy.org’s list of cardinal electors, he is 71.

Here is John Allen’s profile of him from 2005, in the book Conclave: The Politics, Personalities, and Process of the Next Papal Election:

Thanks for the info on Cardinal Pell. It seemed he was a contender in 2005 but doesn’t have a high profile now. Seems like lots of outside push for Cardinal Turkson. Odds high for African priest but I have doubts this will occur.

Is there a good book or article about the election of Blessed John Paul II? I was not Catholic at the time but the short tenure for John Paul I (Italian right?) put the whole thing back in the news. Then of course the expected jocks about a Polish Pope.

Someone was being interviewed on why non-Catholics should care about the Pope. The response was two words John Paul II. He did change the world!

Lisa

 

[traillius]

He probably spoke some Greek and Latin

Not to derail, or argue, but since Simon Peter was a Fisherman, he was unlikely to know the ‘upper’ languages of the time, though I guess the holy spirit, or some other people, might have taught him a little of them.